***The Second Call/NonCall good/bad conspiracy etc thread***merged**

[Avery]

So we should throw a hissy fit in public like a spoiled five-year old?

It's a bad rule, it will get some exposure and maybe overturned.

 

[AsthmaField]

Sorry man, advice like that coming from a fan of another team probably won't go over too well here right now

Particularly a fan of another team that has been conspicuously absent throughout this 12-4 season.

 

[mldardy]

Wouldn't have changed anything, we may have got to see one more Rodgers kneel down

That's not the point. 34 seconds still shouldn't have been removed off the clock.

 

[rynochop]

I guess i didnt take the loss/catch as bad as i usually would, low expectations for the season, etc. I find myself getting madder the more i think about it and watch the play.
Who knows, we could have failed the 2 points and rodgers had plenty of time for a td, much less a fg.

As far as jerry, what purpose would it serve?

 

[Don Corleone]

Well it should have been an extra 40 seconds they had to run off. Some home cooking there by the clock operator, but what do I know?

 

[xwalker]

I expected the cowboy hating national media to move on fast and they already have. after spending all last week crying about the ref picking up the flag.ESPN was so outraged. yet no outrage at all now.but i want to know why Jerry, Stephen or Garrett, are not outraged and throwing a fit about this massive screw job by the NFL and their refs?good guys like Romo and Witten, deserve better than this. they may never get another chance to win a championship again. FIGHT FOR YOUR TEAM JERRY.WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?

You never hear Jerry complain about the league. He never complained about being docked 10M in cap space despite not breaking any actual rules.

 

[superonyx]

Jerry would be saying something if he thought it would matter. Unfortunately at this point getting fans even more outraged only help to cheapen and devalue the product and his business.

It would be great if Cowboys fans could crash every media event with shirts that said it was a catch or show a picture of Dez stretching out with the saying "football move" on it.

 

[tyke1doe]

Like I mentioned before heads will roll because of this. Thus the reason why there is damage control being done at a national scale. However, people aren't buying. Some people do though. They think that what comes out from the media is the truth and nothing but the truth. I think that your one of those that are blinded by what the media is saying and thus trying to justify their position.

You're just ranting. You have a script you concoct in your own mind, and you follow that script regardless of the facts. But let address a few of your points:

1. When you say heads will roll, what do you mean? Is someone going to get fired? Is someone going to get demoted? Who? When has this happened before? Or, I should say, when, after making a controversial call, has this happened in professional football?

2. I believe what the media say? Huh? What are you talking about? What are the media saying? Some in the media say the call should have been a catch. Some in the media say the overturned call was correct based on the current rule. When did this become an issue about the media? Sometimes, I think people are so programmed to argue "It's the media's fault" they do so without even understanding what the issue is.

3. What is my position? My position here is that the Dallas fans are acting exactly like the Detroit fans did last week. That is FACTUAL.

But I have to say. Your on the wrong side of this argument. That was a catch pure and simple. Whatever the media and the networks are saying is nothing more than a scripted damage control message which some of the naive are believing. Go ahead and call me names as believing in conspiracies. Never said that this was a conspiracy. This is a combination of factors from the Lions game debacle. Read my other postings about that.

1. I'm on the wrong side of the argument? I'm sorry, but did the league apologize like it did last week or previous times when it got a call wrong on the field and later, upon review, corrected that call officially with an announcement from the league office?

2. Who determines right or wrong in this case? Uh, the league. Not you. Not me. But the league. If there is no authority to determine right and wrong, particularly as it relates to the interpretation of rules, then your opinion is just as valid as another person's opinion. But that's not how these things are decided. We have referees. We have a league that evaluates the job referees do. And THEY have the final say as to what is right and what is wrong. So you can say all you'd like I'm wrong. The people in AUTHORITY have ruled it was not a catch. And their ruling is BINDING. PERIOD.

3. Good luck tying together this call being in any way influenced by what happened in the Lions game. You have no evidence. Merely suspicions.

So in conclusion, I just feel sorry for you. That you have to believe in the lie that the media is putting out and that this is the exact thing they want you to believe. Its not eh truth and nothing more than lies. But thats okay with me.

No, you don't feel sorry for me. You feel sorry for yourself, that you can't let go the fact that the call had a major impact on the Cowboys losing the game. And because you are so hurt by it, you have to find a way to justify why the Cowboys loss. But, back to my original point, your attitude and position are similar to what the Lions fans were saying last week. They were saying the league had it in for the Lions and wanted the Cowboys to advance because they're partial to Dallas.

Oh, and I'll be okay so don't feel sorry for me, not that you do. I don't take loses personally anymore. I understand that whenever humans are involved, they can do marvelous things, and they can make mistakes. I understand that my team can't win every game. I understand that my team sometimes benefits from good calls and gets punished by bad calls. I understand this dynamic enough not to let it disrupt my world and have me searching for conspiracies under every bush.

It's called MATURITY.

 

[Ken]

Not that I agree with the call but here's a pic.

I think the rule and call are wrong because I don't think "going to the ground" should apply to these plays.

This is not conclusive. Sorry...u can say i'm blind or in denial but this does not show the ball on the ground.

I see fingertips under the ball and no idea if his forarm is under it.

Troy Aikman must be a biased idiot.

Even he stated that he did not complete the catch.

Don't get me wrong here. I felt that he caught the ball...but according to the rules...since he was falling.
Anyone that says he wasn't falling is delusional.

Ya...biased against the cowboys.

Btw...he was falling he was trying to score..

 

[Risen Star]

Game's over. Let it go.

 

[superonyx]

You never hear Jerry complain about the league. He never complained about being docked 10M in cap space despite not breaking any actual rules.

Yea that cap space issue turned into a collusion lawsuit by the NFLPA. He was a victim yet he was or is getting sued for that one.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I really don't know of any owner that shows outage after a bad call. I'm really trying to think of any and I can't.




YR

 

[EST_1986]

That's not the point. 34 seconds still shouldn't have been removed off the clock.

Lets put it back on and let Rodgers take one more from the victory formation

 

[Ken]

Right, the football move is the key. It makes the ball touching the ground irrelevant.

Most of the guys on here aren't capable of being honest about it. They'll tell you Anthony Hitchens didn't interfere the week prior. He did and we got a gift that might have decided the game. This week we got screwed on a call that might have decided the game.

It is what it is.

He did not interfere....holy cow.

He held....the nfl said so....but that was not the call.

I think people need to step away from their tvs...it is corrupting their ability to use their own brains to evaluate what happened.

 

[jobberone]

Questioning the officials is likely to draw a significant fine. It all has to be done behind closed doors.

 

[Risen Star]

Probably because they know there's nothing they can do to change it.

 

[DFWJC]

Probably because they know there's nothing they can do to change it.

This

 

[DeaconMoss]

Owners don't get mad. At the end of the day they are sleeping on top of rolls of 100's. And us suckers care too much sleep on the couch for yelling at the tv and enraging wifey....lol

 

[Staubacher]

Not really.

Like I stated previously, the rule sucks and in my mind it was a catch...but the rule in place states he has to maintain control throughout in that situation...he did not.

After catching the ball he switched the ball to his left hand only and lunged for the goal line. No one can argue he was not making a move beyond trying to catch the ball. Well, you can argue it, but that makes it at best a matter of conjecture, which makes an overturn improper since the on field ref called it a catch.

How do you switch the ball to one hand, push off your foot, and lunge for the goal line and not have control of the ball and making football moves? Does anyone really think Dez was still trying to get possession of the ball?

Before you answer, the ref ON THE FIELD called it a catch. Replay should only overturn the on the field call with INDISPUTABLE evidence.

The NFL has changed their explanation and "clarified" several times with long, legalese explanations. Now they are admitting to revisiting this rule in the offseason. Well whoopedy doo first off the rule was wrongly applied and second that doesn't negate a horrible call.

 

[Aven8]

I really don't know of any owner that shows outage after a bad call. I'm really trying to think of any and I can't.




YR

Mark Cuban.