The Walking Dead (S5) - 2nd half of season thread ***Spoilers***

[iceberg]

Excellent point.

I believe Rick sees a lot of himself in the early days in how these people are operating as well.

He was the guy who wanted to live that way and believed you still could. Then he went through enough, and saw enough, things to realize that way of living was no longer an option.

He's trying to show these people that they simply can't live in this manner because it will get them killed.

is he trying to show them that, or get some trimm? his motivation seems confused right now.

 

[iceberg]

If you want to talk about "not plausible", how about a supposed leader of a group allowing a very unstable girl that she just met to sit in a tower with a high powered sniper rifle where she has a view over the entire town or giving members of that same group police responsibilities over all of the citizens and not expecting that to backfire.

The one thing that is certain is that Deanna is a terrible leader that has been extremely lucky up to this point.

On the other side of the spectrum, I'm not sure why people have a problem with Pete fighting toe to toe with Rick. We know zero about what Pete's backstory. Could be he has been using his fists for years for more than just his family. And when has Rick ever been an expert at fist fighting? Unless the dude bites peoples throats out he has been pretty hit and miss. The Governor gave him a pretty good beating. Shane thumped him (Rick getting the upper hand only after Shane got off to grab a gun to kill that kid and they grappled a second time).

Just me I guess.

well i did say rick got his hiney whipped a lot, so yea.

and we just met shasha?

 

[65fastback2plus2]

is he trying to show them that, or get some trimm? his motivation seems confused right now.

he didnt want it to go down that way...thats why he and carol have been arguing about killing peter. rick doesnt want to, so thats his struggle. he knows its going to come to that but he'd like to avoid it...if even for his kids' sake for living in the community.

 

[jrumann59]

You will not confuse rick with a prize fighter. He is more scrappy than imposing. He does tend to pick fights with dudes that have about 20-30 lbs on him.

 

[jrumann59]

Andrea sort of went through the phase sasha is in maybe not as over the top. I guess she could have gone all Morgan on the group.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

well i did say rick got his hiney whipped a lot, so yea.

and we just met shasha?

We didn't, but Deanna did. My point is that, for all she knows, these guys could have been out raiding and pillaging up until Aaron ran across them. But, within a few days of meeting them she gives them the job of policing their community and giving the PTSD queen the job of watching over them with a sniper rifle. It makes no sense at all unless she is the worst leader ever.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

is he trying to show them that, or get some trimm? his motivation seems confused right now.

I lean toward the trim. The Apocalypse has greatly reduced the pool of candidates though, so it could certainly be the right move in his part.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

You will not confuse rick with a prize fighter. He is more scrappy than imposing. He does tend to pick fights with dudes that have about 20-30 lbs on him.

Lol, that is true. He probably needs to consider keeping within his own weight class!

 

[iceberg]

I lean toward the trim. The Apocalypse has greatly reduced the pool of candidates though, so it could certainly be the right move in his part.

heh, fair enough. not getting any will drive a man crazy. >g<

 

[TellerMorrow34]

well first, already been corrected on this, but cool - i understand.

about rick getting crazy, i just mean the limp open arms, gun kinda dangling, looked more like a scarecrow in the rain than an angry survivalist. that didn't help the "he's losing it" thought.

I agree with you on there for sure. I thought they went way far right there. It was sort of weird to see it go to that level at that moment.

Sorry I didn't see the post where anyone had mentioned that to you. My bad.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

is he trying to show them that, or get some trimm? his motivation seems confused right now.

I think it's both at this point but I think his motivation is really more that he doesn't believe that they can live safely there as long as these people are going to think and act in the manner that thy do.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

We didn't, but Deanna did. My point is that, for all she knows, these guys could have been out raiding and pillaging up until Aaron ran across them. But, within a few days of meeting them she gives them the job of policing their community and giving the PTSD queen the job of watching over them with a sniper rifle. It makes no sense at all unless she is the worst leader ever.

She's a terrible leader and that will continue to show in the final episode. It's a big part of what leads to Rick becoming the leader of the community instead.

 

[iceberg]

I agree with you on there for sure. I thought they went way far right there. It was sort of weird to see it go to that level at that moment.

Sorry I didn't see the post where anyone had mentioned that to you. My bad.

pffft - it came later. we read and reply as we see 'em.

 

[iceberg]

She's a terrible leader and that will continue to show in the final episode. It's a big part of what leads to Rick becoming the leader of the community instead.

comic storyline? i would like to see this develop more but it sounds like they gotta deal with neighbors and come together first. if that's the plan then the "divide" is necessary to prove trust when feces his the rotating device.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

comic storyline? i would like to see this develop more but it sounds like they gotta deal with neighbors and come together first. if that's the plan then the "divide" is necessary to prove trust when feces his the rotating device.

Yeah. Sort of yes.

He does attack the husband in the comics and it's the fact that later the husband tries to kill Rick, and the way they're able to work with Rick and his people to repel and attack from the DC Scavengers that leads to Rick basically just becoming the leader.

They'll divide them here so that they'll see Rick is right and when he helps lead them to defending off an attack by the Wolves (Who I believe will be taking the place of the DC Scavengers) the people will get behind Rick.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

9 minutes!!!!!!!!!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Season 5 Episode 16... Season Finale.

Post up!

 

[65fastback2plus2]

NOW!

 

[SuspectCorner]

You will see what the W's are for I believe in the finale.

I was thinking the whole season they'd introduce the Negan character but I don't believe that will happen yet. With the way this is going what I think is going to happen is this.

The town is going to consider removing Rick. While he's in trouble Jesse will kick Pete out of their house and you won't see him all episode. At some point they're going to be gathered for something, possibly the discussion of removing Rick from the community and Pete is going to show up to try and kill Rick (Who they haven't yet kicked out). Deanna, or her Husband, is going to try and stop this from happening, cause they don't want the violence or whatever, and Pete is going to wind up killing whichever one it is. Right now I'm thinking her Husband. which will finally cause Deanna to give Rick the authority to take Pete out.

Also at this time this is when they're going to be attacked by a raiding group. I believe they're going to be referred to as The Wolves, which has been a rumor all season long, and they're basically going to be the people who replace the bandits known as the DC Scavengers. These will be the people that will explain your W's on the heads of their victim's. I do believe that they're funneling the zombies to the area because they want them to be a distraction so they can raid the community as well. As you could tell from the episode they obviously use live bait to lure in Zombies (The woman tied to the tree and eaten alive).

They will make their attack on Alexandria and attempt to take it over and take what's there. The people, led by Rick, will stop this from happening and this will lead to Rick becoming the leader of what will become known as the Alexandria Safe Zone. They might end the episode with the attack and next season you'll find that they held them off and Rick is now the leader, proving he needed to be in that place after all this.

I'm thinking the episode will actually end after they hold off the attack, which is why they extended the episode to 90 minutes so that you can see them fend them off and it will end with people wondering if Rick will not be the defacto leader, which you'll learn at the start of next season that he in fact was made the leader because of all this.

Nice call, BraveHeartFan.

 

[SuspectCorner]

Morgan is back - very cool addition.