Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[superonyx]

So looking back at HoF RB over the years you have Sweetness, Emmitt, and Curtis Martin who were able to carry the load post age 29 and then you have everyone else.

Since success rate of rookies 1st and 2nd rounders has been brought up I figured context was important. While Half of rookies fail, the vast majority of HoF RB in their thirties fail. Eric Dickerson, Jerome Bettis, Gayle Sayers, Marshall Faulk, Floyd Little, Roger Craig, Thurman Thomas, Earl Campbell and Marcus Allen all tanked by 30.

Good points. However it's also important what numbers people consider when saying the hall of fame runners "failed". I would be willing to guess that the failings of the hall of fame backs still exceeded the production of the rookie failings. Also I would imagine the failure rate of rookie RB's exceeds 50%.

My thoughts are that the biggest impact a running back has on a team will be the amount the back forces the defense to account for them. Peterson is a threat to go the distance every time he touches the ball. Defenders know to account for his combination of size, speed, and strength. This isn't something that a rookie back will most likely give you. (Maybe Gurley?). Plus to get one of the top backs we would most likely have to trade down. That leaves us with backs that will most likely be committee backs that never impact the game like Peterson can.

Peterson gives us everything Demarco gave us last year with the added benefit of having game breaking ability.

I wish the draft was already here. I'm tired of not knowing how this thing will play out.

 

[mattjames2010]

Great point but as fast as he came back can you really count it as anything other than an injury? He didn't just come back he dominated.

As fast as he came back? This is a myth.

Peterson didn't look like himself for about 7 weeks into the 2012 NFL season. It took him a while to get back to being NFL ready, it was the same with Jamaal Charles.

Now, we can discuss the season he had after he got back to 100% which was fantastic, but he certainly didn't light up the NFL once he returned.

 

[Silver N Blue]

As fast as he came back? This is a myth.

Peterson didn't look like himself for about 7 weeks into the 2012 NFL season. It took him a while to get back to being NFL ready, it was the same with Jamaal Charles.

Now, we can discuss the season he had after he got back to 100% which was fantastic, but he certainly didn't light up the NFL once he returned.

You prove once again you are a young padame...use the force...research...don't just throw out pointless smack...I am a master Jedi and you are no match for me....so research your argument before you put it to paper...go back to the dez thread and waste your time there.

espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/.../adrian-peterson-best-acl-recovery-ever

millsteinorthopedics.com/adrian-petersons-staggering-acl-recovery/

 

[ufcrules1]

It's pointless man. Absolutely pointless.

lol yes it is. Gonna be some shocked people around here when we get Peterson. They will get over it week 1 when he starts dominating though.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

As fast as he came back? This is a myth.

Peterson didn't look like himself for about 7 weeks into the 2012 NFL season. It took him a while to get back to being NFL ready, it was the same with Jamaal Charles.

Now, we can discuss the season he had after he got back to 100% which was fantastic, but he certainly didn't light up the NFL once he returned.

What is he talking about?

You prove once again you are a young padame...use the force...research...don't just throw out pointless smack...I am a master Jedi and you are no match for me....so research your argument before you put it to paper...go back to the dez thread and waste your time there.

espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/.../adrian-peterson-best-acl-recovery-ever

millsteinorthopedics.com/adrian-petersons-staggering-acl-recovery/

 

[Silver N Blue]

What is he talking about?

I have no clue man obviously he doesn't either.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

So looking back at HoF RB over the years you have Sweetness, Emmitt, and Curtis Martin who were able to carry the load post age 29 and then you have everyone else.

Since success rate of rookies 1st and 2nd rounders has been brought up I figured context was important. While Half of rookies fail, the vast majority of HoF RB in their thirties fail. Eric Dickerson, Jerome Bettis, Gayle Sayers, Marshall Faulk, Floyd Little, Roger Craig, Thurman Thomas, Earl Campbell and Marcus Allen all tanked by 30.

What is your feeling about AP? Do you think he tanks next year?

Does anybody reading this , thinks he tanks next year?

edit: this year!

 

[Silver N Blue]

lol yes it is. Gonna be some shocked people around here when we get Peterson. They will get over it week 1 when he starts dominating though.

By the time the first quarter is over!

 

[Silver N Blue]

What is your feeling about AP? Do you think he tanks next year?

Does anybody reading this , thinks he tanks next year?

No chance I don't care where he plays.

 

[Stash]

As fast as he came back? This is a myth.

Peterson didn't look like himself for about 7 weeks into the 2012 NFL season. It took him a while to get back to being NFL ready, it was the same with Jamaal Charles.

Now, we can discuss the season he had after he got back to 100% which was fantastic, but he certainly didn't light up the NFL once he returned.

It's sad you'll continue to resort to simply spouting things that are untrue.

 

[mattjames2010]

You prove once again you are a young padame...use the force...research...don't just throw out pointless smack...I am a master Jedi and you are no match for me....so research your argument before you put it to paper...go back to the dez thread and waste your time there.

espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/.../adrian-peterson-best-acl-recovery-ever

millsteinorthopedics.com/adrian-petersons-staggering-acl-recovery/

First link is a ton of blogs. Second one is merely one doctor's opinion, that is all. It was "amazing" to him what he did in the second half of the 2012 season, I agree he played exceptionally well.

ACL/MCL rehab is 6-9 months. Peterson was injured in December of the 2011 season. He started off the 2012 season with 6 average games and didn't come on until about mid-October.

My argument is, he did NOT come into the 2012 season and light it up. He obviously favored his knee for over a month and needed time to readjust. Again, this "superhuman" stuff needs to get out of here, it certainly had an effect on his game for a while. It's myth and the main reason 4 of you posters think giving up high draft picks is worth it.

This isn't me saying that Peterson didn't have a great season, this is me saying that that injury DID have an effect on his game for 6 games in 2012. Charles also had a "miraculous" recovery, the simple fact is, ACL/MCL tears aren't "career ending" for young players any longer. Medical treatment/rehab has advanced, these players have some of the best doctors in the world looking after them. But Peterson certainly showed he was immortal at the beginning of the 2012 season.

 

[Moderately_Askew]

You prove once again you are a young padame...use the force...research...don't just throw out pointless smack...I am a master Jedi and you are no match for me....so research your argument before you put it to paper...go back to the dez thread and waste your time there.

espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/.../adrian-peterson-best-acl-recovery-ever

millsteinorthopedics.com/adrian-petersons-staggering-acl-recovery/

A couple things with this post.

First of all it is padawan, get with your Star Wars knowledge. It's amateur hour over here.

Second, he is correct, it took Peterson 7 weeks to get back into football shape and to be NFL ready. Through the first 6 weeks Peterson ran for 499 yards on 113 attempts for a paltry 83.2 yards a game with 2 TDs. Nothing to write home about.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

First link is a ton of blogs. Second one is merely one doctors opinion, that is all. It was "amazing" to him what he did in the second half of the 2012 season, I agree he played exceptionally well.

ACL/MCL rehab is 6-9 months. Peterson was injured in December of the 2011 season. He started off the 2012 season with 6 average games and didn't come on until about mid-October.

My argument is, he did NOT come into the 2012 season and light it up. He obviously favored his knee for over a month and needed time to readjust. Again, this "superhuman" stuff needs to get out of here, it certainly had an effect on his game for a while. It's myth and the main reason 4 of you posters think giving up high draft picks is worth it.

The guy puts up 2,097, the year after his injuries, and you point out he wasnt "really" ready until week 7. Holy moly.....he really is freaking Super Man!!

 

[burmafrd]

First link is a ton of blogs. Second one is merely one doctors opinion, that is all. It was "amazing" to him what he did in the second half of the 2012 season, I agree he played exceptionally well.

ACL/MCL rehab is 6-9 months. Peterson was injured in December of the 2011 season. He started off the 2012 season with 6 average games and didn't come on until about mid-October.

My argument is, he did NOT come into the 2012 season and light it up. He obviously favored his knee for over a month and needed time to readjust. Again, this "superhuman" stuff needs to get out of here, it certainly had an effect on his game for a while. It's myth and the main reason 4 of you posters think giving up high draft picks is worth it.

actually you are the one everyone is laughing at

 

[JoeBoBBY]

A couple things with this post.

First of all it is padawan, get with your Star Wars knowledge. It's amateur hour over here.

Second, he is correct, it took Peterson 7 weeks to get back into football shape and to be NFL ready. Through the first 6 weeks Peterson ran for 499 yards on 113 attempts for a paltry 83.2 yards a game with 2 TDs. Nothing to write home about.

And he did that with Defenses keying on him first.....

 

[Moderately_Askew]

And he did that with Defenses keying on him first.....

Were they not keyed in on him for the second half of the season when he went off on everyone?

 

[JoeKing]

For anyone wondering if AP still has it... he says he's ready to "show the world".

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...works-out-with-ap-says-rb-will-show-the-world

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Were they not keyed in on him for the second half of the season when he went off on everyone?

true enough. but he put up 102 in week 4. And he was getting the rock more to, down the stretch...

 

[Moderately_Askew]

true enough. but he put up 102 in week 4.

Yep, but this shows that he did not come in and dominate like the myth says he did. It took him some time to get back into the grove of things.

 

[mattjames2010]

The guy puts up 2,097, the year after his injuries, and you point out he wasnt "really" ready until week 7. Holy moly.....he really is freaking Super Man!!

Week 1 - 17 carries, 84 yards
Week 2 - 16 carries, 60 yards
Week 3 - 25 carries, 86 yards
Week 4 - 21 carries, 102 yards
Week 5 - 17 carries, 88 yards
Week 6 - 17 carries, 79 yards

Underwhelming and average stats for an elite back. Except it's understandable, he needed time to adjust and return to form after injury.

Again, "superman" talk is ridiculous. I bring this up because when we are talking about giving up draft picks or taking on his contract, people like to bring up his mutant healing powers.