Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[Silver N Blue]

Notwithstanding recent interest (or whatever it can be called) from the Cowboys and a report that the Raiders have interest, the top candidates for a trade continue to be the Cardinals, Jaguars, and Buccaneers. While some have construed a report that the Vikings want a first-round pick and a starting corner for Peterson as proof that the Vikings are willing to trade Peterson, the truth could be that the Vikings have applied a high price tag to scare off anyone who thinks they can steal Peterson for peanuts.

Regardless, many wonder whether the Vikings eventually will blink, given that they insisted in 2013 that the Vikings have “no intent” to trade Percy Harvin — and then traded him. So no one believes that the Vikings will insist on keeping Peterson, even though the continue to say they do.

 

[AsthmaField]

Great post. But all you pointed out is it's a crapshoot. If we want a RB of Gurley or Gordon's caliber, and we sit back and wait and hope they are there but they could easily miss out on both. Then we have to pull the trigger or some other RB in the first round or get a JAG late in the 2nd round. We just can't let that happen.

We may not get AP but I bet they make a strong push for him. Time will tell.

Yep, it's a crapshoot. If Dallas has about 7 or 8 guys that they have lumped together and they'll be happy with any of them, then sure, sit at 27 and see who falls. That's what they did last year with Martin, Donald, Barr, Shazier, etc.

However, if (for instance) they think Gordon is going to be the real deal and really want him to replace Murray then they need to make it happen, just like Jimmy Johnson did with Emmitt (trading up from 21 to 17). Move up a few spots and secure your heir apparent at RB.

I wanted them to do it last year with Aaron Donald because he was exactly what Marinelli wants out of a 3 tech. They could have moved up just a few spots and gotten the best 3 tech prospect in years. Instead they sat there and then traded up anyway to get Lawrence on the DL. If they were going to use their 3rd round pick to trade up, I would have rather them used it to get Donald.

As we all know, it more than worked out for Dallas. Zack Martin is a fabulous player and Lawrence looks like he's going to be a player at DE too. So Dallas had a group of players that they were ok with, and if that's how it is this year at 27 then fine. But if they rate Gordon or Gurley that much better, I hope they make sure they get him.

 

[GroundZero1970]

I would offer minny Carr and next years 2 for AP, or Lee and a,3 next,year

 

[dallasdave]

Wait, I just heard someone screaming Adrian vey loudly, on never mind I forgot I had the Rocky movie on.

 

[AsthmaField]

Wait, I just heard someone screaming Adrian vey loudly, on never mind I forgot I had the Rocky movie on.

Ahhh yes... Philly's only champion. Just not in real life.

 

[dallasdave]

Ahhh yes... Philly's only champion. Just not in real life.

Yeah, that's keep it that way another statue of Rocky for the eagles, and another Super Bowl trophy for the Cowboys.

 

[Sydla]

One of the more bizarre things is this belief that if the Cowboys go after Peterson it's a sign they are returning to the days of idiocy from the front office.

It's not. It's a once in a lifetime chance to get a once in a life TB who seems predisposed to want to come to Dallas.

Certainly if the price is too high in terms of trade pieces or he won't restructure, then he shouldn't be an option. But my god, I fail to see if you can get him for a 3rd or 4th rounder and a team favorable deal that it's a sign of us going back to the early and mid 2000 Cowboys.

 

[Sydla]

The one with Peterson probably. Now, which one is more likely to handicap your team for the future?

The one with Peterson.

If the team with a rookie doesn't won the Super Bowl, you reload. Make a few key pickups and go try again.

If the team with Peterson doesn't win? Now you go into another season with a RB that makes big money and is now 31 years old.

These 'one player away' teams are great, if the player agrees to a one year contract or similar. They are not so great if it's a multi year deal for an aging player. And this one would also take draft picks.

OK.

Then trade for him, cut Carr who is essentially useless by the way at June 1 and resign Dez lowering his cap hit, and just let Peterson play out this year on his existing deal. You can cut him in the offseason for nothing.

Problem solved.

 

[ufcrules1]

Yep, it's a crapshoot. If Dallas has about 7 or 8 guys that they have lumped together and they'll be happy with any of them, then sure, sit at 27 and see who falls. That's what they did last year with Martin, Donald, Barr, Shazier, etc.

However, if (for instance) they think Gordon is going to be the real deal and really want him to replace Murray then they need to make it happen, just like Jimmy Johnson did with Emmitt (trading up from 21 to 17). Move up a few spots and secure your heir apparent at RB.

I wanted them to do it last year with Aaron Donald because he was exactly what Marinelli wants out of a 3 tech. They could have moved up just a few spots and gotten the best 3 tech prospect in years. Instead they sat there and then traded up anyway to get Lawrence on the DL. If they were going to use their 3rd round pick to trade up, I would have rather them used it to get Donald.

As we all know, it more than worked out for Dallas. Zack Martin is a fabulous player and Lawrence looks like he's going to be a player at DE too. So Dallas had a group of players that they were ok with, and if that's how it is this year at 27 then fine. But if they rate Gordon or Gurley that much better, I hope they make sure they get him.

I too wanted us to trade up for Donald. I was shocked St Louis picked him up.
Yes, it ended up working out for us but that isn't always the case. I really think we should grab AP this year instead of trading up for Gordon or Gurley. Neither of them is proven in the NFL and AP is. Not to mention it would probably make us favorites in the NFC to make the super bowl. When you are that close, you pull the trigger and I bet the Cowboys do. It's just a waiting game now.

 

[ufcrules1]

You can also go after AD after missing on the backs in round one

True but that is ballsy. Arizona or some other team could go after him too and you may miss out. It is an option though. I really do think AD is their first option. We will find out soon enough.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Something else to consider, how many teams, since the start of the salary cap era, have won the Super Bowl with a QB, RB and WR all making elite money? The Cowboys did it before the salary cap but since? I can not think of one off-hand. Paying elite money for a WR, QB and RB simply does not allow enough money for the rest of the team. I just do not think it is worth it.

How many teams have won the SB with a rookie being their featured back?

Romo has maybe 3 years left, I am not willing to piss one of those years away while a rookie learns how to play the pro game.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

150?

 

[Broges74]

reality is that Minnesota is not getting a 1 and a starting cb for a 30 year old back no matter what his name is. When they come to terms with that, we will be able to get him for a reasonable price.


I fail to see why some of you are failing to see how this is going down. It's pretty clear to many of us and many of the media.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Was that really Murray or the the OLine?

2011 897
2012 663
2013 1,121
2014 1,845

So the idea now is to put a rookie RB (which history shows there is over a 60% bust rate) or to put a broke down McFadden (and his second lowest ypc average in the league) behind this line to test how good it is?

Sorry, but when the franchise QB has maybe 3 years left, I aint interested in pissing one of those years away to "test how good the oline is".

 

[JoeKing]

Remember a year ago when there was this almost giddiness in the air over the prospect of the Cowboys drafting Johnny Football in the first round? Is this what we have now with the prospect of Peterson coming to Dallas? Or are we looking at a landmark moment in Cowboys history where years from now we can look back and say right there, that was the moment the Cowboys became the dominant team in the NFL. The Cowboys are close, is AP the player that puts us over the top?

 

[xwalker]

So the idea now is to put a rookie RB (which history shows there is over a 60% bust rate) or to put a broke down McFadden (and his second lowest ypc average in the league) behind this line to test how good it is?

Sorry, but when the franchise QB has maybe 3 years left, I aint interested in pissing one of those years away to "test how good the oline is".

I think that bust rate is for all drafted RBs with a 10% bust rate for first round RBs.

 

[Silver N Blue]

150?

.....whose house.....

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

How many teams have won the SB with a rookie being their featured back?

Romo has maybe 3 years left, I am not willing to piss one of those years away while a rookie learns how to play the pro game.

Any rookie rb won't be the primary ball carrier. We have depth.

 

[ufcrules1]

We have depth.

We do? We have a proven failure and some scrubs. You call that depth?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

We do? We have a proven failure and some scrubs. You call that depth?

You're right. No pro bowl back up rb's. We need at least 5.