Moore: Cowboys Don't Intend To Pick Up Option On Claiborne

cowboyvic said:
Yet another bad decision by Jerry and his son. the big problem with Mo has been his heath. he will go some where else after this year and be a hell of a player if he has good health. this move will come back and bite Jerry and his son. and remember i told you guys this.
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Don't worry I always remember nonsense.
 
Well, this makes sense. No way he is worth what the option would pay him and maybe he can use a little extra motivation of not having a contract in place for next year. Maybe he will all of the sudden not be so injured.
 
The Natural said:
Well you said Mo specifically wasn't a bad pick at the time. You can't determine if it was a good or bad pick on draft night.
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We can go round and round here, heh.

A CB(Mo) was not a bad pick in that draft and Mo happened to be highly touted. I thought it was a nice move-up for someone who most had as an elite corner. Dallas took a chance at a position of need.

Yes, now it is a bad pick but it wasn't on the evening of Thursday, April 26th :)
 
EGG said:
Easily the most disappointing draft trade and result in recent memory. Such a disaster.
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It is a cautionary tale to anyone getting overly excited about Johnson or Jones in this draft.

Trade up for a CB, do not do it.
 
What a total disaster of a draft pick Mo turned out to be, complete bust.

When you don't pick up the 5th year option on the 6th overall pick, that is basically a confession you whiffed
 
The thing I hated about the trade up for Mo was that it just didn't seem like it was something we really considered much prior to the draft. I felt like the book on Mo was there. We just didn't seem to pay attention to it. I don't know. I have no info on how much we scouted him or how closely we looked at it. For all I know, we did it to the point of exhaustion. I just never thought he was a very good fit for us.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
The thing I hated about the trade up for Mo was that it just didn't seem like it was something we really considered much prior to the draft. I felt like the book on Mo was there. We just didn't seem to pay attention to it. I don't know. I have no info on how much we scouted him or how closely we looked at it. For all I know, we did it to the point of exhaustion. I just never thought he was a very good fit for us.
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The number 1 CB in the draft and a consensus elite talent wasn't a fit?

It didn't work out but the hindsight bias is strong.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
The number 1 CB in the draft and a consensus elite talent wasn't a fit?

It didn't work out but the hindsight bias is strong.
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Not really. I never liked the pick. The book on Mo, at the time was pretty clear. Man to man press guy. Never impressd me in zone. Good with his hands off the line, used his size to his advantage and his long arms to bat down a lot of balls. Not very good hands thou. We didn't play a lot of press man and we still don't. I never understood moving up to get this player and then taking away his best attribute, which is his punch off the line and his ability to make his size work for him in press. If you wish to believe that it is a hindsight thing, that's fine but I was on record about it then and my opinions haven't really changed. The best thing that could happen to Mo is to go to a team that would use him in a way he is best suited IMO.
 
cowboyvic said:
Yet another bad decision by Jerry and his son. the big problem with Mo has been his heath. he will go some where else after this year and be a hell of a player if he has good health. this move will come back and bite Jerry and his son. and remember i told you guys this.
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Not picking up the option doesn't ship him out, it just means you have to deal with him as a free agent after next season as opposed to kicking he can a year down the road.

If Mo shows up and proves himself the team can extend him. If not Dallas certainly hopes he looks good elsewhere so they can recoup a high comp. pick for him.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Not really. I never liked the pick. The book on Mo, at the time was pretty clear. Man to man press guy. Never impressd me in zone. Good with his hands off the line, used his size to his advantage and his long arms to bat down a lot of balls. Not very good hands thou. We didn't play a lot of press man and we still don't. I never understood moving up to get this player and then taking away his best attribute, which is his punch off the line and his ability to make his size work for him in press. If you wish to believe that it is a hindsight thing, that's fine but I was on record about it then and my opinions haven't really changed. The best thing that could happen to Mo is to go to a team that would use him in a way he is best suited IMO.
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That's not true.

Mo was a WR before a CB, and what set him apart was he had great hands and ball skills. ELITE level in both. The knock was tackling and run play.

He is a man to man press guy but we knew that and wanted him for it.

Marinelli joined staff in 2013 after we had drafted Mo which is when we moved to zone corners and why fit has been questioned.
 
We have to hit on a CB this year in the draft. Mo and Carr should be gone next year.

OScan, Patmon and White is pretty thin.
 
Jerry's last draft pick goes down in flames.

In an odd way, this was the BEST draft pick in years.
 
jterrell said:
That's not true.

Mo was a WR before a CB, and what set him apart was he had great hands and ball skills. ELITE level in both. The knock was tackling and run play.

He is a man to man press guy but we knew that and wanted him for it.

Marinelli joined staff in 2013 after we had drafted Mo which is when we moved to zone corners and why fit has been questioned.
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He had nice ball skills, that agree with but I have never liked his hands and while at LSU, he dropped a lot of INTs. He's don't that in Dallas as well. There is a reason, I guess, he's no longer a WR.

We never played much press before Marinelli and we still don't. He was the wrong kind of CB for us IMO.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Not really. I never liked the pick. The book on Mo, at the time was pretty clear. Man to man press guy. Never impressd me in zone. Good with his hands off the line, used his size to his advantage and his long arms to bat down a lot of balls. Not very good hands thou. We didn't play a lot of press man and we still don't. I never understood moving up to get this player and then taking away his best attribute, which is his punch off the line and his ability to make his size work for him in press. If you wish to believe that it is a hindsight thing, that's fine but I was on record about it then and my opinions haven't really changed. The best thing that could happen to Mo is to go to a team that would use him in a way he is best suited IMO.
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He was billed as having special ball skills.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
He was billed as having special ball skills.
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But how many INTs did he actually have? If you watched this guy, you could clearly see that he did not make the INTs. He made a lot of plays on the ball and he was able to defend a lot of plays successfully but he did not make a lot of INTs. Technically, that description of him was accurate. He did have ball skills but he didn't make INTs.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Not really. I never liked the pick. The book on Mo, at the time was pretty clear. Man to man press guy. Never impressd me in zone. Good with his hands off the line, used his size to his advantage and his long arms to bat down a lot of balls. Not very good hands thou. We didn't play a lot of press man and we still don't. I never understood moving up to get this player and then taking away his best attribute, which is his punch off the line and his ability to make his size work for him in press. If you wish to believe that it is a hindsight thing, that's fine but I was on record about it then and my opinions haven't really changed. The best thing that could happen to Mo is to go to a team that would use him in a way he is best suited IMO.
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Didn't Dallas draft him to play man and even say they were going to use him to his strengths? What changed there?
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
He had nice ball skills, that agree with but I have never liked his hands and while at LSU, he dropped a lot of INTs. He's don't that in Dallas as well. There is a reason, I guess, he's no longer a WR.

We never played much press before Marinelli and we still don't. He was the wrong kind of CB for us IMO.
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We played almost solely press before we drafted him. And we played press his rookie year under Ryan.

Since we don't and thus the questionable fit.
 
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