News: Randy Gregory Suspended Four Games

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This is a faulty argument. Not only does every team face these problems but all employers everywhere do. They knew there were risks. But you and others act as if it's over with for him on this team. It may be the beginning of the end but no one knows that. Showing concern and even bemoaning taking a risky player is certainly reasonable but throwing in the towel is not.

The issue to me is not throwing in the towel.

Its more about how this franchise is lead.

I have just about hit a limit with what this team does.

Nobody seems to be able to make anything more than a financial decision rather than football decision.

We are constantly drafting and signing guys that have dropped in the draft in order to gain some perceived upvalue only to see the pick fall even further when we get them.

Guys like TO, Josh Brent, Bennett, Ratliff, Carpenter, Claiborne, Carr, Hardy and so many others are so completely incorrectly fitted to this team we just can't succeed.

I won't go into the complete disconnect over letting Murray go and instead having a Merry-Go-Round for the RB position last year.

Or the QB fiasco. Weeden, Casell, whomever?

Its just gotten beyond belief.

2014 was obviously a fluke.

And the fans just seem to get a new dish of humble pie each year while Jerrah rakes the money in over his stadium cash cow.

Football in Dallas is an embarrasment.

We all know it.

I'll always be a Cowboys fan but I have pretty much lost my zest for watching this franchise continue to alibi and throw up it's hand and wait for next year.

Sorry.
 

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The issue to me is not throwing in the towel.

Its more about how this franchise is lead.

I have just about hit a limit with what this team does.

Nobody seems to be able to make anything more than a financial decision rather than football decision.

We are constantly drafting and signing guys that have dropped in the draft in order to gain some perceived upvalue only to see the pick fall even further when we get them.

Guys like TO, Josh Brent, Bennett, Ratliff, Carpenter, Claiborne, Carr, Hardy and so many others are so completely incorrectly fitted to this team we just can't succeed.

I won't go into the complete disconnect over letting Murray go and instead having a Merry-Go-Round for the RB position last year.

Or the QB fiasco. Weeden, Casell, whomever?

Its just gotten beyond belief.

2014 was obviously a fluke.

And the fans just seem to get a new dish of humble pie each year while Jerrah rakes the money in over his stadium cash cow.

Football in Dallas is an embarrasment.

We all know it.

I'll always be a Cowboys fan but I have pretty much lost my zest for watching this franchise continue to alibi and throw up it's hand and wait for next year.

Sorry.

lol I felt like you do back in 2010 and 2011,2012,2013, then 2014 happened and I got a little excited, but then
they let murray walk and I went back to laughing at them. I knew they would not be more than mediocre after that.

And they will be mediocre and make playoffs sometimes, but getting past the div round I dont see that happening anytime soon.
 

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Romo will hopefully be back for most if not the full season, but this is not guaranteed and his top 5 status will become vulnerable due to proven back problems that tend to worsen over time; not improve. This was on full display in the past with Aikman back problems forcing him to be released due to inadequate play; aka Aikman redux = not one other team would sign Aikman even while still wanting to play. His retiring a Cowboy is a nice revision of history that seems to get a pass due to ignorance of younger fans acceptance of the narrative.

Draft a QB high to avoid the tried and failed short term fixes of when/if Romo goes down or shows declining play either due to age or back problems. When you draft 4 overall and have a QB who is 36, it makes sense to take a top QB prospect in general as they are not likely to come fro latter rounds. On top of this, last season proved the organization and coaching (JG/Linehan/Wilson mainly) can't evaluate QB talent properly and why Weeden failed and a future draft pick was thrown away on Cassel in desperation. The lack of QB evaluation talent on this team lead to a 4-12 season mainly due to a QB who is able to hid for coaching/scheme/talent deficiencies = 1 win w/out Romo in '15.

This puts the burden of the franchise to think long term with their QB situation and maintaining the "brand" if Romo goes down long term.

There is no single entity creating back problems. And you cannot use another person as an analog for future problems. Most adults have at least one episode of significant back pain in their lives; many have more. With a proper regimen his risks for another episode of dysfunction may be less than that of a NFL QB. He doesn't say they are addressing the problem but he is fine. You can assume he is being deceitful but I'll take him at his word. QBs his age have enough problems with being injured without assessing further risks that are likely more perception than reality.

If you haven't noticed I'm on board with drafting a QB this year but that is because the opportunity has arisen as well as Romo's overall age not because I'm concerned a season ending injury is inevitable.
 

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The issue to me is not throwing in the towel.

Its more about how this franchise is lead.

I have just about hit a limit with what this team does.

Nobody seems to be able to make anything more than a financial decision rather than football decision.

We are constantly drafting and signing guys that have dropped in the draft in order to gain some perceived upvalue only to see the pick fall even further when we get them.

Guys like TO, Josh Brent, Bennett, Ratliff, Carpenter, Claiborne, Carr, Hardy and so many others are so completely incorrectly fitted to this team we just can't succeed.

I won't go into the complete disconnect over letting Murray go and instead having a Merry-Go-Round for the RB position last year.

Or the QB fiasco. Weeden, Casell, whomever?

Its just gotten beyond belief.

2014 was obviously a fluke.

And the fans just seem to get a new dish of humble pie each year while Jerrah rakes the money in over his stadium cash cow.

Football in Dallas is an embarrasment.

We all know it.

I'll always be a Cowboys fan but I have pretty much lost my zest for watching this franchise continue to alibi and throw up it's hand and wait for next year.

Sorry.

I reject nearly all of this to put it simply. While I doubt anyone here is as frustrated as I am in the SB futility of the last 20 years most of what you are saying is borne of a doom and gloom all or nothing mentality.
 

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Why is that? Folks are making this an issue about marijuana legalization and that's not what this is about. It's just deflecting from the main issue. Owners "invest" millions on these players. It's really not a lot to ask that they keep their nose clean and not use drugs. My employer asks the same of me, as well as employers for millions of other folks.

HE HAS AN ANXIETY DISORDER. The guy isn't sitting in his backyard smoking a spliff with his pals for the heck of it.
 

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There is no single entity creating back problems. And you cannot use another person as an analog for future problems. Most adults have at least one episode of significant back pain in their lives; many have more. With a proper regimen his risks for another episode of dysfunction may be less than that of a NFL QB. He doesn't say they are addressing the problem but he is fine. You can assume he is being deceitful but I'll take him at his word. QBs his age have enough problems with being injured without assessing further risks that are likely more perception than reality.

If you haven't noticed I'm on board with drafting a QB this year but that is because the opportunity has arisen as well as Romo's overall age not because I'm concerned a season ending injury is inevitable.

Why the cortisone shots bf every game and WED practices off even late into the season/playoffs? Not saying I don't want him to be top 5 QB another 2 years (38 by then).? That is just wishful thinking in my opinion and the long term solution and maybe even short term fix (game time back up ready) be nipped in the bud. if I'm wrong by drafting the QB @ 4 (or higher if need be) what does that cost the team long term; Bosa/Jack, etc.?
 
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Why the cortisone shots bf every game and WED practices off? Not saying I don't want him to be top 5 QB another 2 years (38 by then).? That is just wishful thinking in my opinion and the long term solution and maybe even short term fix (game time back up ready) be nipped in the bud. if I'm wrong by drafting the QB @ 4 (or higher if need be) what does that cost the team long term; Bosa?

I don't know where your information comes from. Where, what and how much was injected? Weekly injections would be unusual unless maybe small amounts with lidocaine in a trigger point for just a pro athlete.

We don't know enough to have an opinion of substance.

Drafting a QB this year to be a backup is more wishful thinking to me.
 

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I don't know where your information comes from. Where, what and how much was injected? Weekly injections would be unusual unless maybe small amounts with lidocaine in a trigger point for just a pro athlete.

We don't know enough to have an opinion of substance.

Drafting a QB this year to be a backup is more wishful thinking to me.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...romo-admits-hes-playing-with-a-broken-rib-too
  • By Conor Orr
  • Around The NFL Writer
  • Published: Dec. 5, 2014
Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo has certainly earned the respect of his teammates by gutting through a serious back issue.

But Thursday night, after a win over the Bears, he also mentioned a broken rib while appearing on NFL Network.
"It'll be nice when it's just about the back instead of all the other junk," Romo later said.

NFL Media's Desmond Purnell reported Friday that Romo first suffered the rib injury against the Seahawks in Week 6, per two sources with knowledge of the injury. X-rays, though, revealed no fracture.

"Romo admitted that he did not take any pain-killing medication prior to the team's loss to Philadelphia last week, which he said was a poor decision. He said he'll likely get a shot before their next game, also against the Eagles, on Dec. 14."

Romo's back was a problem throughout the 12-4 season and it was miraculous for him to have such a high QBR (ESP on 3rd down where he was off the charts and enabled the running game to soak up time and hide a bad D), but that result will likely not be guaranteed with age; PR aka Coaches/GM/Players have done a great job of covering up this reference for the most part...give D's a guaranteed weakness they were already aware of while hurting the brand in off season and the high esteem a 12-4 record affords some folks within an organization; JG extension, hosting SB sooner than he would like, etc.;):)
 
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HE HAS AN ANXIETY DISORDER. The guy isn't sitting in his backyard smoking a spliff with his pals for the heck of it.

Stop insulting people with anxiety disorder. Not everyone with that disorder smokes weed. The man has a problem and a team invests millions in these players. He can smoke all the weed he wants, he just can't smoke weed and play professional football.
 

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I'm an admitted pessimist but this upcoming season just feels like another bad one and a house cleaning next year is coming :/
 

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Stop insulting people with anxiety disorder. Not everyone with that disorder smokes weed. The man has a problem and a team invests millions in these players. He can smoke all the weed he wants, he just can't smoke weed and play professional football.

BC the league has an outdated policy in general; not performance enhancing and medically cleared in most states for anxiety? Gregory simply has to mature (23 year old knucklehead) into understanding that weed comes AFTER work if he wants to take his career seriously ;) My last statement disregards the whole medical requirement issue in MANY careers. Give a 23yr old some time to understand life priorities as we all know is not a given at that young age. Hell, with the way the country is trending on the issue and companies become up to date on their policies in regard to the substance (institutionalized), all the fools calling Gregory a troubled player will look pretty silly.
 
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...romo-admits-hes-playing-with-a-broken-rib-too
  • By Conor Orr
  • Around The NFL Writer
  • Published: Dec. 5, 2014
Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo has certainly earned the respect of his teammates by gutting through a serious back issue.

But Thursday night, after a win over the Bears, he also mentioned a broken rib while appearing on NFL Network.
"It'll be nice when it's just about the back instead of all the other junk," Romo later said.

NFL Media's Desmond Purnell reported Friday that Romo first suffered the rib injury against the Seahawks in Week 6, per two sources with knowledge of the injury. X-rays, though, revealed no fracture.

"Romo admitted that he did not take any pain-killing medication prior to the team's loss to Philadelphia last week, which he said was a poor decision. He said he'll likely get a shot before their next game, also against the Eagles, on Dec. 14."

Romo's back was a problem throughout the 12-4 season and it was miraculous for him to have such a high QBR (ESP on 3rd down where he was off the charts and enabled the running game to soak up time and hide a bad D), but that result will likely not be guaranteed with age; PR aka Coaches/GM/Players have done a great job of covering up this reference for the most part...give D's a guaranteed weakness they were already aware of while hurting the brand in off season and the high esteem a 12-4 record affords some folks within an organization; JG extension, hosting SB sooner than he would like, etc.;):)

Maybe I missed it but I see no mention of a cortisone shot. A pain killing shot for a rib could be an injectable NSAID like toradol and/or a targeted area of a rib with marcaine or another longer acting local anesthetic.

You keep trying to magnify the issue with the back instead of going off the limited data available. You may be right but I suspect you are wrong....at present. His back is a concern admittedly but I'm willing to say it isn't a current issue.
 

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Hey Randy, you're supposed to be part of the solution in Dallas, not part of the problem. You've gotta make this right. A Pro Bowl in the next year or two will do it for me. And the playoffs, of course. That's the best way to put all of this behind you.
 
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