Lamar Miller latest update; Going to sign with Texans

[KalEl]

Its my opinion which is y I specifically put "imo" at the end and im def more than entitled to it..... I trust my eyes more than most and how It can translate to nfl and im right waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy more often than not about specific players, I don't study every draft pick like some but the ones that catch my eye on the field I translate there game to the next level and compared to Miller I believe that Zeke is better for us and has a way more higher ceiling the Alabama game last year told me he can carry you a championship with Miller I don't believe he can carry you to a championship Zeke can cause he's done it so yea I do believe Zeke is better than Miller. and have you been payin attention to Stephen when he says they're not spending big money on rb or big in free agency period. so idk what to tell then about Miller and his asking price but i'll take my chances with Zeke and have the best 5 yrs cause hes a rb and hell be great for Romo at end of his carrer.. but idk if Dallas gonna pull the trigger and that's the question because if we go by "BPA" which is what they keep mentioning then Zeke should be ahead of Bosa on there board

They'd have to trade down or back into the 1st round to get EE. If they don't want to spend on a FA at the position. They certainly won't be handing EE a pile of cash with the 4th pick.

 

[superonyx]

Crawford was "invisible" when he first suffered his injury and when there were scrubs surrounding him, Saints game to be exact. When else last year was he "invisible"?



No that is not same, we're in a 4-3, two quality DTs is valuable. Spending $8 million on a RB that isn't top 5-10 gets people frustrated due to the life expectancy at that position, but two high priced RBs? That's far too much money into a revolving door position. Trenches, however, is worth the investment.



And you can't see why? Most RBs in the league are one contract investments, at most, for teams. Many of those RBs are on cheap contracts in their prime years. It's not a position you want to be throwing big money at.

$8 million at a good DT? Reasonable due to the market. $8 million at a good RB in a league full of decent/good RBs? Harder to defend.

Crawford started 16 games last year and had a god awful 23 tackles........8 million dollars and he put up 23 tackles. 23...
So his defenders will say its not fair because he was injured last year......ok...no...but ok....well in 2014 he started 15 games and had 22 tackles....yes 22 tackles in 15 games....
That is invisible...that is not worth locking up $8 million per year. The guy isn't even producing 2 tackles per game over the best 2 years of his career.

Lamar Miller would absolutely earn his paycheck far above Tyrone Crawford has or will. Crawford is an average DT/DE who could easily have his production replaced by a practice squad player from another team....David Irving...

I understand people desire to go cheap at RB. But we don't have a legit starting RB or we wouldn't have been talking to the eagles to bring Demarco Murray back...We need TD's. McFadden doesn't score TD's and is average in every way possible. The upgrade at the position bringing in Lamar Miller or drafting Elliott will do enough for the team to justify the salary of the player. We lean heavily on our RB's. More than most teams do...So if we need to spend Tyrone Crawford money to secure this position with high talent player who can score points then its well worth it.

 

[superonyx]

tyrone crawford was badly injured but played anyway last year.
our rb concern is depth, they have a starter in DMC.
teams churn the bottom of the roster and all those guys were churn.

We were not talking to the eagles to bring back Murray because our starter is DMC...........
you have it backwards....DMC is our depth....as it stands now all we have are backups.

 

[ufcrules1]

Cowboys need a legit RB. DMC will be 29 this year and has had an injury riddled career. We got somewhat lucky with him last year but we can't count on him. If the price is right, Miller would be terrific here. I know Houston is going to do everything to win him over there. If he is thinking about money only, he will end up in Houston, if he is thinking about his prolonging his career, he will come here and run behind one of the best lines in the NFL. Houston doesn't even have a starting QB on the team. I would think that would be a miserable place to play.

 

[kazzd58]

They'd have to trade down or back into the 1st round to get EE. If they don't want to spend on a FA at the position. They certainly won't be handing EE a pile of cash with the 4th pick.

that's the wish is to trade down these player are no longer getting 50 million on draft day we got the top 4 picks in every round Im looking out for Romo cause we not doing a d%$#* thing if he get hurt so id rather take Zeke or Henry actually and we limit the opportunities Romo has of getting hit and ultimately hurt for the yar then we'll be in draft postion for #1 next year which QB Watson should come out wishful thinking hopeful thinking our QB currently resides at Clemson

 

[mattjames2010]

Crawford started 16 games last year and had a god awful 23 tackles........8 million dollars and he put up 23 tackles. 23...
So his defenders will say its not fair because he was injured last year......ok...no...but ok....well in 2014 he started 15 games and had 22 tackles....yes 22 tackles in 15 games....
That is invisible...that is not worth locking up $8 million per year. The guy isn't even producing 2 tackles per game over the best 2 years of his career.

Lamar Miller would absolutely earn his paycheck far above Tyrone Crawford has or will. Crawford is an average DT/DE who could easily have his production replaced by a practice squad player from another team....David Irving...

I understand people desire to go cheap at RB. But we don't have a legit starting RB or we wouldn't have been talking to the eagles to bring Demarco Murray back...We need TD's. McFadden doesn't score TD's and is average in every way possible. The upgrade at the position bringing in Lamar Miller or drafting Elliott will do enough for the team to justify the salary of the player. We lean heavily on our RB's. More than most teams do...So if we need to spend Tyrone Crawford money to secure this position with high talent player who can score points then its well worth it.

Wait, we're judging DTs on tackles now? Jesus Christ. Haha

Dude, no matter how many times you say "He was invisible", it doesn't make it true. I also love that you went with his solo tackles rather than adding in his assists, which ends up with over 30. Bias is strong with you. He had a 3 game stretch that was bogged down with injury early on in the season, along with getting now help due to a banged up D-Line.

Again, you have issue with his contract. I am telling you go and compare his contract with big name DT contracts. His production is right in line with his contract, at least for 2015.

Lamar Miller would absolutely earn his paycheck far above Tyrone Crawford has or will.

So we just had an RB get over 1,000 yards behind our line with FAR LESS money, and you want to make a jump from a player who is getting a little over 1 million a year to 8 million? Again, I wouldn't be completely against it, but you attempting to say "Well we gave Crawford this much, that would justify giving an RB the same" is a brain dead statement.

 

[jterrell]

We were not talking to the eagles to bring back Murray because our starter is DMC...........
you have it backwards....DMC is our depth....as it stands now all we have are backups.

We weren't talking to the Eagles about Murray about anything serious if we wouldn't make the deal. He agreed to a essentially 2 year 13m deal. If Dallas wouldn't sign up for that they aren't looking to replace DMC very hard now are they?

You guys take every bit of possible news like a big deal. It isn't.

DMC is the starter. Love it or cry it out but it what it is.

 

[CATCH17]

We weren't talking to the Eagles about Murray about anything serious if we wouldn't make the deal. He agreed to a essentially 2 year 13m deal. If Dallas wouldn't sign up for that they aren't looking to replace DMC very hard now are they?

You guys take every bit of possible news like a big deal. It isn't.

DMC is the starter. Love it or cry it out but it what it is.

We'll get a RB somewhere.

If it's not Forte or Foster then it will be someone in the draft.

 

[ajk23az]

I think he ends up staying in miami

That's not going to happen after the Dolphins signed Williams, and traded for 2 other large contracts. And they are also going to keep Wake.

 

[KalEl]

We weren't talking to the Eagles about Murray about anything serious if we wouldn't make the deal. He agreed to a essentially 2 year 13m deal. If Dallas wouldn't sign up for that they aren't looking to replace DMC very hard now are they?

You guys take every bit of possible news like a big deal. It isn't.

DMC is the starter. Love it or cry it out but it what it is.

Wrong he was a stop gap insurance guy for last season. He will not be the starter in 2016. Brace yourself for Miller, EE, or Henry the FO will not sleep on bringing in a bell cow.

 

[tm1119]

If we sign Lamar Miller to a $7M+ contract I'm actually going to be pretty pissed. Good player but would be a colossal waste of $. Put that $ into the D

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I can't see this happening. They are signing guys that can bridge the gap so they do not have to reach in the draft and Miller is currently looking for a top-of-the-market deal.

Now, Bilal Powell on the other hand......

 

[LittleD]

To quote the player himself: "How many fumbles did I have this year? 4."

Those "tiny hands" are 3/8ths of an inch smaller than Aaron Rodgers' hands, and the reports on Romo's hand size are all over the place too. Goff can throw the football and throw it well. That's been proven for three years in college and back to high school. He's no question mark.



I have yet to see a credible source that's placing Goff "outside the top ten". If you have one to support that claim, I'd like to see it. But I won't get my hopes up. Most people run away when asked to support their claims.



Or we might not, let's leave that up to chance over planning though, right?

Okay Stash...
Here are some I like and I'm pretty sure your first comment will be that they aren't legit in your eyes.

Great Blue North - Goff @ 10
WalterFootball - Goff @12
ScottWrights Draft Countdown - Goff @13
Scout NFL Network - Goff @ 9

I'm sure there are lots more but here are 4 which disagree with your view. I guess we will just continue to view our current
needs differently. You won out on the Hardy sweepstakes last year so we'll see who has the better of it this year. It's just
football not "World War 3" for gosh sakes.

 

[jterrell]

Wrong he was a stop gap insurance guy for last season. He will not be the starter in 2016. Brace yourself for Miller, EE, or Henry the FO will not sleep on bringing in a bell cow.

good luck with that pipe dream kiddo.

 

[jterrell]

We'll get a RB somewhere.

If it's not Forte or Foster then it will be someone in the draft.

absolutely. someone to play behind DMC.
likely a 4th rounder.

 

[Stash]

Okay Stash...
Here are some I like and I'm pretty sure your first comment will be that they aren't legit in your eyes.

Great Blue North - Goff @ 10
WalterFootball - Goff @12
ScottWrights Draft Countdown - Goff @13
Scout NFL Network - Goff @ 9

I'm sure there are lots more but here are 4 which disagree with your view. I guess we will just continue to view our current
needs differently. You won out on the Hardy sweepstakes last year so we'll see who has the better of it this year. It's just
football not "World War 3" for gosh sakes.

Not at all, we can agree to disagree civilly, and you do a great job of that.

I appreciate you taking the time and making the effort to support your case.

 

[CATCH17]

absolutely. someone to play behind DMC.
likely a 4th rounder.

McFadden will lose his job at some point to that 4th rounder if that 4th rounder is a quality player.

I like McFadden. Dallas will replace him though this year and make him the backup.

You can get stud RB's anywhere in the draft so we could find his replacement anywhere from FA to undrafted FA.

 

[superonyx]

Wait, we're judging DTs on tackles now? Jesus Christ. Haha

Dude, no matter how many times you say "He was invisible", it doesn't make it true. I also love that you went with his solo tackles rather than adding in his assists, which ends up with over 30. Bias is strong with you. He had a 3 game stretch that was bogged down with injury early on in the season, along with getting now help due to a banged up D-Line.

Again, you have issue with his contract. I am telling you go and compare his contract with big name DT contracts. His production is right in line with his contract, at least for 2015.



So we just had an RB get over 1,000 yards behind our line with FAR LESS money, and you want to make a jump from a player who is getting a little over 1 million a year to 8 million? Again, I wouldn't be completely against it, but you attempting to say "Well we gave Crawford this much, that would justify giving an RB the same" is a brain dead statement.

Oh hold on.....we can't forget about his "assist"....no wait...even with his assist he can barely hit 2 tackles per game....thank god we added those.
Dude...no matter how many times you say he is worth the $8 million it doesn't make it true. Touching the other teams ball carrier 2 times per game isn't worth $8 million dollars.
I didn't say Lamar Miller was going to get $8 million per year....What I have said is when someone says not to pay a RB even 6 million per year and instead invest this money into another DT this just is not a smart thing to do. We have already spent good money on an underperforming DT...The complimentary DT can be a veteran who is on the cheap over asking a RB who your team leans heavily on to be the guy who is brought in because he is cheap.

 

[superonyx]

We weren't talking to the Eagles about Murray about anything serious if we wouldn't make the deal. He agreed to a essentially 2 year 13m deal. If Dallas wouldn't sign up for that they aren't looking to replace DMC very hard now are they?

You guys take every bit of possible news like a big deal. It isn't.

DMC is the starter. Love it or cry it out but it what it is.

I guess they were just talking to Philly for recommendations on the best place to buy Cheese steaks.
For all you know they made a real play for Demarco but the eagles management didn't want him being trade back to a divisional rival.

I guess you should tell the national media and Millers agent that we are locked in to DMC as the starter...you said it so it must be true.
At least Zeke or any RB in the draft wont have to get excited over the idea of coming here either since you closed that book also.
I'm sure when we were interviewing Elliott at the combine we were really just asking him his thoughts on the Ohio democratic primary coming up.

You don't know who the starter will be any more than we do....Love it or cry it out but it is what it is.

 

[jterrell]

McFadden will lose his job at some point to that 4th rounder if that 4th rounder is a quality player.

I like McFadden. Dallas will replace him though this year and make him the backup.

You can get stud RB's anywhere in the draft so we could find his replacement anywhere from FA to undrafted FA.

That would be a good plan. Find a 4th rounder, teach him the playbook and let him slowly ascend to starter.
2017 he'd be the starter and you move on from DMC.

But DMC will fight for his job and salary. He knows the scheme and he can really block. A guy who just finished 4th int he league in rushing without crazy carry totals is not going to be easy to replace.