ESPN: Cowboys rookie Jourdan Lewis to stand trial for domestic violence charge

CooterBrown

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,145
Reaction score
1,245
Thanks for your comments -- I should preface my reply by stating I am not a lawyer. Your note tweaked my interest regarding the difference between assault and battery vs. DV. This is what I found in the statutes for Colorado:

domestic violence means any assault or battery, aggravated assault or battery, sexual assault or battery, stalking, aggravated stalking, kidnapping, false imprisonment, or any criminal offense resulting in physical injury or death of one family or household member by another family or household member.

If, instead of DV, the alleged victim had accused Lewis of assault and battery, he could have been charged for simply threatening and touching.

What does it all mean? Who knows, but from my very limited view-point, it would appear that without any evidence of physical violence, the charges are either dropped or, at worst, he is fined.
Thank you for your response. I don't know Michigan law. I do know Texas law and all of my comments in this thread are based on Texas law. DV is not a separate crime. DV only enhances the possible consequences of the crime charged.

As far as "evidence" goes, her testimony is evidence. Evidence need not be physical. The jury is free to believe all, part, or none, of her testimony. (And his for that matter). No other evidence is required by law.

In the federal legal system they use "sentencing guidelines" that narrow the punishment and leave little discretion to the judge. Most states do not have such guidelines. Jail, or fine only is stictly up to the one who imposes sentence within the statutorily authorized range of punishment.
 

haleyrules

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,060
Reaction score
42,877
Brother, my buddy, a Marine, slapped burning mail out of his girlfriend's hand, that she had lit on fire in a fit of jealous rage and he got 52 weeks of domestic violence counseling (that he was able to do at a Vet Center, thankfully, and the charges were subsequently dismissed). I guess he shoulda let her burn the place down. Or got a squirt gun.

DV is certainly real, but also overblown sometimes.

Can't stand it when people make assumptions without knowing the facts, like some in this thread.
Sometimes! Its a exaggerated to an extent everytime. Pussified society.
 

PhillyCowboysFan

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,062
Reaction score
4,968
"Police said they saw no visible injuries when they arrived at the scene." So it's just he said, she said? How does that merit a DV charge that goes to trial? :facepalm:

Because he "admitted" to holding her down which concludes physical contact.

It's BS but let the process work itself out.
 

JoeKing

Diehard
Messages
35,650
Reaction score
31,089
Because he "admitted" to holding her down which concludes physical contact.

It's BS but let the process work itself out.
Then he figuratively shot himself in the foot. He has the right to remain silent about the incident and let the legal authorities sort the whole thing out... because as the police will tell you, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. Good luck Lewis.
 

Nightman

Capologist
Messages
27,121
Reaction score
24,038
Because he "admitted" to holding her down which concludes physical contact.

It's BS but let the process work itself out.
He said the only contact he may have made was trying to get out the door

I don't think he admitted holding her down by the head....... that is the whole disputed charge
 

Alexander

What's it going to be then, eh?
Messages
62,463
Reaction score
67,274
"RKG is only football related. It doesn't mean boy scouts."

~Every Garrett Homer.
It just kind of means, I don't know.

The best guy at the time.

He cares about football or I have been told that.

That is a big thing.

Then it means the special guy that has passion.
 

bigbob

Active Member
Messages
232
Reaction score
247
Can't stand it when people make assumptions without knowing the facts, like some in this thread.
Lol that's what we all do here!
We never have all the facts and usually
Very few facts to work with.
No matter what you think now this is more of a negative than a positive event.
 

Trouty

Kellen Moore baby
Messages
31,526
Reaction score
80,467
Lol that's what we all do here!
We never have all the facts and usually
Very few facts to work with.
No matter what you think now this is more of a negative than a positive event.
Mmkay, bud.

Every case is different, maybe I should have clarified for folks like you. In this case it wreaks of (a select few) people wanting to ***** for the sake of *****ing.

We also have facts quite a bit. Almost always they emerge, eventually. Not sure you're right there, either. Now, this early in an ordeal, sure, hence my point.

No where did I say this was a positive event. Just to be patient. I was positive about it -- two different things, Bob.

But hey, salud, brother.
 
Last edited:

bigbob

Active Member
Messages
232
Reaction score
247
Mmkay, bud.

Every case is different, maybe I should have clarified for folks like you... your ilk. In this case it wreaks of (a select few) people wanting to ***** for the sake of *****ing.

We also have facts quite a bit. Almost always they emerge eventually. Not sure you're right there either. Now, this early in an ordeal, sure, hence my point.

No where did I say this was a positive event. Just to be patient. I was positive about it -- two different things, Bob.

But hey, salud, brother.
We rarely get real facts.
Just general statement on what happened which isn't a fact.
I think you took rest of my post the wrong way.
I quote people and then digress so not all of it is directed at person I quote.
 

Trouty

Kellen Moore baby
Messages
31,526
Reaction score
80,467
We rarely get real facts.
Just general statement on what happened which isn't a fact.
I think you took rest of my post the wrong way.
I quote people and then digress so not all of it is directed at person I quote.
Fair enough.

When the verdict is handed down, and thereafter a punishment (or not) from the league, we'll have the facts. That's my point.

Have a nice evening.
 
Top