Good bye Cowboys and NFL as a whole

[Rob-G]

I'd say both sides have made their point, now let's move on from this crap and play football.

Hard to move on from this "crap" when black men are still dealing with crap on a daily basis.

 

[Rob-G]

I agree "Hands up don't shoot" was a complete lie. Even the Obama justice department cleared that shooting (and all the other high profile shootings).

The "injustice" is inner city violence and black on black crime that has been IGNORED by the media and most politicians.

This response is always hilarious to me. There's crooked cops with a badge and a gun who take an oath to protect their community yet harass and sometimes murder the people in it, but there's people like you with the "But what about black on black crime?" cop out.

 

[flosho]

This response is always hilarious to me. There's crooked cops with a badge and a gun who take an oath to protect their community yet harass and sometimes murder the people in it, but there's people like you with the "But what about black on black crime?" cop out.

Is that 1st degree murder these cops are committing?

Black athletes complaining about police brutality and injustice.. yet more whites are shot by cops each year than black people!

The cop out is ignoring the gang violence problem in inner cities. The media ignores the 30 shootings in Chicago over a weekend but spends weeks discussing how a known drug dealer lead police on a high speed chase and then reached for a gun only to be shot by an officer and how the officer acted improperly... get a grip on reality man.

I'm not here to say all police officers are saints. There are bad people that wear a badge and there are good people that make poor decisions or reactions.

 

[mattjames2010]

So if money and fame means you should shut up, then shouldn't Trump ****?

FYI, Pat Tillman would have been the first to take a knee.

Don't speak for a dead man. It's one of my biggest pet peeves, you have no clue what he would have done - it's been over a decade since his death. Show some respect.

 

[dogunwo]

The protests are stupid, nonsensical and far more about attention than any plight facing black Americans.

But you know what I'm beginning to think is even worse? The grown men melting into giant puddles over what other grown men do during the national anthem. It's a sad, embarrassing display not fit for anyone outside the seven year old and younger crowd.

People need to sack up and find more important things to worry about.

Can I ask you a serious question? What do you do to help or even understand the plight of Black Americans or any minority for that matter? I ask because people are so quick to point out the "distraction" that this is causing and want people to do something, not talk about something. Do you believe their is even an issue at all?

 

[blindzebra]

Don't speak for a dead man. It's one of my biggest pet peeves, you have no clue what he would have done - it's been over a decade since his death. Show some respect.

I am not the one to bring him up for one and secondly, I was repeating what his wife,friends, and family said and that is showing respect. Unlike those misrepresenting what he believed in.

 

[mattjames2010]

I am not the one to bring him up for one and secondly, I was repeating what his wife,friends, and family said and that is showing respect. Unlike those misrepresenting what he believed in.

Again, you have NO CLUE what his stance would be on today's political issues. You have no idea how he would have changed or who he would have become.

Again, stop speaking for a dead man. I don't care WHO started it - you are not him, he's not around to make you shut your trap. it's the same crap when I see people using Hitchens to push their goals.

They are not alive, do not speak for them. Leave them out of it.

 

[TheCount]

The protests are stupid, nonsensical and far more about attention than any plight facing black Americans.

What plights might those be?

 

[erod]

Players have cost themselves a ton of future endorsement money. What is the sense of using an NFL player to endorse your product now? Why invite controversy to your brand? Von Miller already learned that today.

The salary cap will be LOWER in future years, not higher. Advertisers and networks will not pay as much to be associated with less-watched games and sullied reputations.

The only person that will benefit from this in the end, sadly, will be Donald Trump.

 

[Idgit]

Hard to move on from this "crap" when black men are still dealing with crap on a daily basis.

Football is one place where skin color doesn't matter and ability and skills do. Is it really hard to separate issues of race inequality from sports? We've all got full lives outside of our enjoyment of watching this game. Does the fact that genuine unfairness on issues of race still exists in the US mean it has to permeate every discussion in every walk of life? I don't think so. It ought to be ok to both feel strongly about something and to not talk about it in the context of sports, or entertainment, or exercise, or whatever.

And that goes for any number of important issues that I care deeply about outside of football that I also don't want bleeing into the NFL.

 

[Rob-G]

Is that 1st degree murder these cops are committing?

What happened to Eric Garner is murder. What happened to Freddie Gray is murder. You can live in this fantasy world where all cops can be trusted but you obviously don't live in the same world as others nor do you have to deal with what they deal with on a daily basis.

Black athletes complaining about police brutality and injustice.. yet more whites are shot by cops each year than black people!

There's literally 5 times as many whites as blacks in this country so that's a silly statistic.

The cop out is ignoring the gang violence problem in inner cities. The media ignores the 30 shootings in Chicago over a weekend but spends weeks discussing how a known drug dealer lead police on a high speed chase and then reached for a gun only to be shot by an officer and how the officer acted improperly... get a grip on reality man.

I'm not here to say all police officers are saints. There are bad people that wear a badge and there are good people that make poor decisions or reactions.

The cop out is you thinking because someone commits a crime a cop is allowed to hand out justice a he sees fit. You're picking and choosing your scenarios. Countless of black men have been severly beaten and killed by cops and they weren't reaching for a gun. This has literally been going on for decades.


Nobody's asking a police to be a saint. We're asking them to do their job the way it's supposed to be done. That doesn't include harassing someone because of where they live or the color of their skin. That doesn't include using excessive force or a gun because they're scared of a big black man. There's a gang of Mark Fuhrmans running around every city in America using their badge and gun on a power trip.

 

[blindzebra]

Again, you have NO CLUE what his stance would be on today's political issues. You have no idea how he would have changed or who he would have become.

Again, stop speaking for a dead man. I don't care WHO started it - you are not him, he's not around to make you shut your trap. it's the same crap when I see people using Hitchens to push their goals.

They are not alive, do not speak for them. Leave them out of it.

One more time, HIS WIFE, HIS FRIENDS, AND HIS FAMILY SAID IT.
Funny how only those who disagree with the truth about the man take exception.

 

[mattjames2010]

One more time, HIS WIFE, HIS FRIENDS, AND HIS FAMILY SAID IT.
Funny how only those who disagree with the truth about the man take exception.

...it doesn't matter WHO said it. HE didn't say it, he is not alive, he is not here to tell you how current events shaped his opinion. What a guy thought 14 freakin' years ago in a different political climate is irrelevant.

They are not him, he is in the ground, may he rest in peace. He is not here to speak on what he would do - point to those who are alive, not a man who can't defend himself. And NO I DO NOT CARE his loved ones speak for him. That is still not him. Leave him out of it, and that's what you should have said with whoever brought him up.

BOTH SIDES, stop using a dead man to further your agenda. It's tactless and, frankly, pathetic.

 

[Rob-G]

For the record, I know being a cop isn't easy. Its probably the toughest job in the world and I could never do it. But for those who do, you have a huge responsibility when you put on that uniform. If you can't handle it and everything that comes with it, don't do it.


When an accountant makes a mistake, people lose money. When a cop makes a mistake or crosses the line, someone can lose their life.

 

[Hoofbite]

The protests are stupid because the cause they are protesting is largely a lie. Statistically, there isn't an epidemic of black men being killed by police. Moreover, among criminals blacks are LESS likely to be killed than whites.

It's all based on a false narrative

I'm interested where the statistics come from when mandatory reporting of police shootings hasn't even been in effect for that long.

 

[blindzebra]

...it doesn't matter WHO said it. HE didn't say it, he is not alive, he is not here to tell you how current events shaped his opinion. What a guy thought 14 freakin' years ago in a different political climate is irrelevant.

They are not him, he is in the ground, may he rest in peace. He is not here to speak on what he would do - point to those who are alive, not a man who can't defend himself. And NO I DO NOT CARE his loved ones speak for him. That is still not him. Leave him out of it, and that's what you should have said with whoever brought him up.

BOTH SIDES, stop using a dead man to further your agenda. It's tactless and, frankly, pathetic.

So I guess that means every quote from history is off limits? No ideals of Lincoln, MLK, or our founding fathers...after all they are all dead.

Get a life and stay out of mine.

 

[Rob-G]

Football is one place where skin color doesn't matter and ability and skills do. Is it really hard to separate issues of race inequality from sports? We've all got full lives outside of our enjoyment of watching this game. Does the fact that genuine unfairness on issues of race still exists in the US mean it has to permeate every discussion in every walk of life? I don't think so. It ought to be ok to both feel strongly about something and to not talk about it in the context of sports, or entertainment, or exercise, or whatever.

And that goes for any number of important issues that I care deeply about outside of football that I also don't want bleeing into the NFL.

I understand what you're feeling, but the reality is football is a predominantly black sport and for these athletes this is the best way they feel they can bring attention to what's going on in their community. Right or wrong.

 

[mattjames2010]

So I guess that means every quote from history is off limits? No ideals of Lincoln, MLK, or our founding fathers...after all they are all dead.

Get a life and stay out of mine.

I have called out people for using MLK, Malcolm X, and Orwell. I've seen numerous times that people have said Orwell would have been okay with harming protesters. You see, this is the problem with bring up people of a different time period based in cultural relativism to push an agenda.

Now there can be a philosophical or political quote that can transcend time - however, I take great issue with people using the dead to state this is what this person would have done or said.

There are enough people to point to that are alive now, within this current culture I can state what they are doing. Tillman was no Voltaire.

Point to people now that are living through this environment instead of digging someone up.

 

[TheFinisher]

Every group kills their own more than others so what is your point? Just wanted to get that out eh like it meant something. It also hasn't been ignored or people like you wouldn't know about it.

Sure, every group kills their own more than others.

But the fact of the matter is 6% of the population (black males) are responsible for 40-50% of violent crimes. Mostly kids from 14-21 to boot. Killing each other.

It's hard to ignore when every major inner city has been turned into a war zone. Come take a walk through the Wards here in New Orleans and tell me again how inner city violence doesn't cripple black communities.

If you claim to seek social justice and choose to ignore how crime has devestated black America and don't see that as something that needs fixing, then what is there to talk about?

It's a disgrace that the same people who champion black lives matter don't give a DAMN about what's actually taking thousands of young black male lives.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Sure, every group kills their own more than others.

But the fact of the matter is 6% of the population (black males) are responsible for 40-50% of violent crimes.

It's hard to ignore when every major inner city has been turned into a war zone. Come take a walk through the Wards here in New Orleans and tell me again how inner city violence doesn't cripple black communities.

If you claim to seek social justice and choose to ignore how crime has devestated black America and don't see that as something that needs fixing, then what is there to talk about?

Crime is a result of poverty. Poverty is a result of lack of opportunity. Lack of opportunity is the result of lack of education. Lack of education is the result of poverty.

We should have to explain this in 2017.