News: Why Dallas Cowboys’ family business prevents winning titles

[IrishAnto]

I am tired of hearing about "football people" that is the biggest fallacy out there. When you have been intimately involved in the NFL for over 20 years, guess what, you are a football person.

But he's a football person without the necessary skills to successfully manage an organization in the current NFL i.e. the one with a salary cap and free agency.

Without those skills all else is moot.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I am tired of hearing about "football people" that is the biggest fallacy out there. When you have been intimately involved in the NFL for over 20 years, guess what, you are a football person.

Add the fact that Jerry played at a higher level than 99% of this board. Not very many on this board (if any) can claim being a team captain on a college team that won a national title.

 

[Risen Star]

Imagine the mindset where you feel like after 22 years you have to write that article to inform the others.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

And this is why Jerry is NOT doing everything within his power to win football games which I think by now most fans realize it isn’t a priority. He only wants to win his way.He tried winning when a bigger ego received the credit and didn’t like it.

Jerry has already admitted he’d of fired a GM with his recent record but he won’t. At that point I’d blame the fans for continuing to financially support a product that’s not willing to make the changes necessary . Instead we continue providing Jerry and his family a stamp of approval .

Not much you can do with as a fan but stop being a fan which most of us can't do. If we dont fill up AT&T, other fans will. Either way, Jerry gets his money.

 

[Donut]

Jimmy sucked. Garrett is the man. lmao.

 

[Sydla]

Add the fact that Jerry played at a higher level than 99% of this board. Not very many on this board (if any) can claim being a team captain on a college team that won a national title.

Awesome. What has that gotten us since he's essentially taken over full control of the front office?

22 years. 3 playoff wins.

So at some level, Jones, despite his college football resume and success as owner of the Cowboys, has been a disaster as a GM, whether it be from choosing bad head coaches, bad players or a combination of both.

It's practically impossible to argue otherwise when you look at the results.

 

[Nightman]

In 4 years in Miami, he went to the playoffs 3 times and won two playoff games.

That beats what Garrett has done in 7 years.

But he is the magical Jimmy Johnson....... he created the Cowboys out of thin air

he should have done much better than 9-7 every year with MIA........36-28

Without Jerry he was Just a Coach........ Wannstedt had 41 Wins the next 4 years without Dan Marino

 

[Sydla]

But he is the magical Jimmy Johnson....... he created the Cowboys out of thin air

he should have done much better than 9-7 every year with MIA........36-28

Without Jerry he was Just a Coach........ Wannstedt had 41 Wins the next 4 years without Dan Marino

LOL. Your flailing away here is priceless.

With Johnson and the teams he built, Cowboys won 3 SBs.

When Johnson was gone and FA took the SB teams apart and Jerry was solely in charge of rebuilding the team, the Cowboys won only 3 playoff games.

I mean how freaking stubborn and obtuse do fans have to be to not grasp this? I mean we aren't talking about a small sample here that one could argue away. We are talking about THREE PLAYOFF WINS IN TWENTY TWO SEASONS where Jones has had complete control of the front office.

 

[Pants]

Jones (any of them in the family tree) has no accountability; if I mess up in my job, I get written up, if I am unsuccessful over a sustained period of time, I lose my job. There is ZERO accountability with the executives in this organization. Charlotte messes up? "there-there, you just look pretty on draft day"; the sons? please, would daddy ever get rid of them? JJ himself? he likely doesn't think he makes mistakes, he will just quote profitability...so he answers to ZERO people....

THAT, imo, is the issue...the "not a football guy" rings true for me, but to say that they are "football guys" is ridiculous....they are richety-riches trying to see if they can win something while they hang around the pool...if they don't? daddy isn't firing any of you...I am SURE that they THINK that they are football people, but they are no more "football people" than any of us in here that has followed them for 20+ years PRIOR to the Jones family opening their pocketbooks....


oh, the pool boy? the guy with the red hair that brings them their drinks? he claps and coaches the team on sundays

 

[LittleD]

Jones (any of them in the family tree) has no accountability; if I mess up in my job, I get written up, if I am unsuccessful over a sustained period of time, I lose my job. There is ZERO accountability with the executives in this organization. Charlotte messes up? "there-there, you just look pretty on draft day"; the sons? please, would daddy ever get rid of them? JJ himself? he likely doesn't think he makes mistakes, he will just quote profitability...so he answers to ZERO people....

THAT, imo, is the issue...the "not a football guy" rings true for me, but to say that they are "football guys" is ridiculous....they are richety-riches trying to see if they can win something while they hang around the pool...if they don't? daddy isn't firing any of you...I am SURE that they THINK that they are football people, but they are no more "football people" than any of us in here that has followed them for 20+ years PRIOR to the Jones family opening their pocketbooks....


oh, the pool boy? the guy with the red hair that brings them their drinks? he claps and coaches the team on sundays

Everyone on this board knows the exact things you state but, you have to realize that Jerry is a business man first and always.
He is about building the Cowboys brand, selling merchandise, & filling AT&T stadium. He is great at this and he is becoming
richer and richer every year. Jerry is not all that interested in winning SB's but, if he were to get another one, he would promote
it to even greater riches. The Cowboys are a business and Stephen is picking up the mantle for future years. Philly had never won a SB trophy in all the years of the NFL but, they finally did after over 50 years of struggle. Guys, you can continue to scream and shout but,
nothing will convince the Cowboy family to change what has been business successful. As long as the merchandise flies and the stands are filled, things will never change and it's useless to keep crying about it.

 

[Nightman]

LOL. Your flailing away here is priceless.

With Johnson and the teams he built, Cowboys won 3 SBs.

When Johnson was gone and FA took the SB teams apart and Jerry was solely in charge of rebuilding the team, the Cowboys won only 3 playoff games.

I mean how freaking stubborn and obtuse do fans have to be to not grasp this? I mean we aren't talking about a small sample here that one could argue away. We are talking about THREE PLAYOFF WINS IN TWENTY TWO SEASONS where Jones has had complete control of the front office.

Johnson won 2 Super Bowls...... then he never even went to another one....he then ran to TV and never went back

Jerry won 3 Super Bowls.....the order in which he won them is convenient to your narrative but they are still more than the Franchise won in their pre-Jerry history......Landry only had 2 and how many playoff games did he win?

You are the one that can't deal with reality

 

[Sydla]

Johnson won 2 Super Bowls...... then he never even went to another one....he then ran to TV and never went back

Jerry won 3 Super Bowls.....the order in which he won them is convenient to your narrative but they are still more than the Franchise won in their pre-Jerry history......Landry only had 2 and how many playoff games did he win?

You are the one that can't deal with reality

The only person who has pushed a narrative here is you. The only person struggling with reality is you.

Again. 22 years since we won a SB. In that time, Jerry has had complete control of personnel and hired the coaches. 3 playoff wins.

And yet here you are trying to argue against reality and try to couch the last two decades as successes and not in fact, direct indictments on the Jones' mismanagement of the football team.

 

[Nightman]

The only person who has pushed a narrative here is you. The only person struggling with reality is you.

Again. 22 years since we won a SB. In that time, Jerry has had complete control of personnel and hired the coaches. 3 playoff wins.

And yet here you are trying to argue against reality and try to couch the last two decades as successes and not in fact, direct indictments on the Jones' mismanagement of the football team.

And you can't acknowledge the 3 Super Bowl wins and 13 Playoff Wins Jerry had before your artificial deadline

 

[Sydla]

And you can't acknowledge the 3 Super Bowl wins and 13 Playoff Wins Jerry had before your artificial deadline

See that's your problem. I never didn't acknowledge his 3 SBs. He hired Johnson. So on that level alone he gets credit for the SB wins. But those SB teams were a combination of Jones and Johnson. Over the last two decades, it's been all Jerry.

But the timeline isn't manufactured. It's simply a timeline that any rational fan would use. What has your team done since they last won a SB?

So in our situation, we last won a SB 22 years ago. What has the team done in the last 22 years? Further, in those 22 years, who is the person that has sole responsibility over player acquisitions and coaching hires?

Another question to ask yourself. Are you contending that Johnson had no control here? That player personnel was all on Jones from 1989 to 1994?

 

[northerncowboynation]

IDK, they did Ok in the 90's

 

[gjkoeppen]

Why Dallas Cowboys’ family business prevents winning titles
https://thelandryhat.com/2018/02/22/dallas-cowboys-family-business-prevents-winning-titles/



Because owner and general manager Jerry Jones treats the Dallas Cowboys as a family business, that fact limits the team’s chances for success.
The Dallas Cowboys biggest obstacle to a championship is ownership by the Jones’ family. In a recent article, I discussed how Jerry Jones’ multiple roles as owner, president and general manager makes him inefficient at doing each job.

Jerry Jones’ son, John Stephen Jones, is the executive vice president, chief executive officer (CEO) and director of player personnel. Jerry Jones Jr. and Charlotte Jones Anderson are also listed as executive vice presidents. Unfortunately, being family doesn’t make you the right person for the job.

The Cowboys aren’t the only family owned NFL team and as a family man, I understand giving your children prominent roles in the business. If I owned a business, I would want my immediate family heavily involved. After all, we’re talking about establishing our legacy and taking care of future generations.

Just because my little sister made a few hundred flyers for a bake sale, that doesn’t mean that she should be in charge of my marketing department. If my cousin knows a guy with a truck, it doesn’t mean he should be in charge of logistics. It might be necessary in the beginning to give roles to family. As the business grows, you should hire more qualified people...

This is a pile of crap and the proof was in the pregame of Super Bowl XLV in Dallas. There Emmitt, Aikman, Irvin, The Moose, Johnson and Jones had a round table discussion andone4 of the points that came out disputes the thinking of some people here. That is Johnson finally admitted that he did not have all the power and authority many outside of the organization that he had. He was always bothered by having to have Jones' approval for things others thought Johnson did by himself. Johnson admitted that Jones had a strong hand in running the team since he bought it so those that think it was all Johnson who got the talent of the 90's team they are wrong. Further example is in the 89 draft Johnson wanted to draft Mandarich but Jones laid down the law and said they would select Aikman. The in 90 Johnson convinced jones to move up in the draft to select a LB James Francis. After the trade with the steelers was completed but before the Cowboys pick, the begals took Francis so Johnson then said they would take LB Tony Bennett but again Jones put his foot down and said they would take Emmitt. So if left to Johnson 2 out of the 3 triplets would have never been Cowboys and the chances of those 3 Super Bowl Wins would have been extremely less likely. So when you want to complain about Jones you also have to give him his credits too.
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[gjkoeppen]

See that's your problem. I never didn't acknowledge his 3 SBs. He hired Johnson. So on that level alone he gets credit for the SB wins. But those SB teams were a combination of Jones and Johnson. Over the last two decades, it's been all Jerry.

But the timeline isn't manufactured. It's simply a timeline that any rational fan would use. What has your team done since they last won a SB?

So in our situation, we last won a SB 22 years ago. What has the team done in the last 22 years? Further, in those 22 years, who is the person that has sole responsibility over player acquisitions and coaching hires?

Another question to ask yourself. Are you contending that Johnson had no control here? That player personnel was all on Jones from 1989 to 1994?

Here's the problem with your logic. During Johnson's era there was no salary cap when the team was built. Since the cap started the Cowboys have been in cap he11 because of that team that was built and having to cut players and restructure contracts every year just to get under the cap and then as time went by to be able to just resign a select few of their own players. Restructuring contract is just putting dead money on the cap down the road and it's been a vicious circle since the cap started.
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[MarkP88]

Remember when you were a kid, and there was that one toy that you would not let any of your siblings or friends touch? That only *you* were allowed to play with?

That's what the Cowboys are for Jerry: his toy. His favorite toy. If he can't hog it to himself and enjoy any benefit that comes from it, he can't be happy.

The problem isn't that the Cowboys are a family business. It's that they are the favorite plaything of an egocentric billionaire.

 

[Diehardblues]

Not much you can do with as a fan but stop being a fan which most of us can't do. If we dont fill up AT&T, other fans will. Either way, Jerry gets his money.

Do what you can like buying less merchandise and if our stadium becomes filled with opposing fans at least it becomes an embarrassment for Jerry with public humility.

 

[cowboyblue22]

as a general manager jerry jones sucks and it its not close as a owner he is alittle better not much but some his thing is MONEY that's his top agenda winning a superbowl or competing in the playoffs is secondary