What is the plan to upgrade this roster?

[xwalker]

Ever hear of Charles Haley or Deion Sanders

Haley was a trade, not a free agent.

Deion was added to a core that had just won 2 Super Bowls.

 

[visionary]

PLAN? What is this strange thing you speak of?

 

[willia451]

We’re probably the best drafting team in the NFL. If anybody can bank on primarily building through the draft, it’s us. We don’t spend big in FA because we draft so well and have to spend our cap space to resign our own guys. We have 10 picks. We’re going to move up a couple times and get some difference makers.

Nice addition of Margot Robbie in your sig.

 

[kskboys]

Legitimate arguments can be made for Jacksonville and Pittsburgh — both snake a lot of my favorite players — but Jacksonville has also picked in or near the top 5 for a majoroty of the past decade. Even still, we’ve drafted more Pro Bowlers than they have. The Steelers have also benefited from picking ahead of us. They stole Ryan Shazier, Martavius Bryant and Bud Dupree from us, we had to “settle” for Zack Martin, Anthony Hitchens and Byron Jones. And in general, they’ve also drafted fewer Pro Bowlers than us. I feel confident saying we’re the best drafting team in the NFL.

The Pro Bowlers argument is weak. Esp considering how little it means nowadays, and how many turn it down, so they go through the alternates. One of those pro bowlers you're referencing, Mike Jenkins, was the 3rd alternate.

 

[big dog cowboy]

What is the plan to upgrade this roster?

One of the curious aspects of this offseason so far is that it is not very clear what this FO’s strategy is to upgrade this roster in areas that were clearly problems last year.

Thoughts?

My thoughts....it's actually been pretty clear what the plan is. There isn't any big secret or hidden mystery to be solved here. Not sure why it is so curious at all. This is how the Cowboys run their business the first week of FA.

 

[RamziD]

But players take time to develop so we’re never really drastically improving.

By the time one crop is developed 5 other holes have popped up.

We have to stop skipping Free Agency. Plain and simple.

This. We're just chasing our tails.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

The Pro Bowlers argument is weak. Esp considering how little it means nowadays, and how many turn it down, so they go through the alternates. One of those pro bowlers you're referencing, Mike Jenkins, was the 3rd alternate.

Alternates can come from every team, not just the Cowboys, so no, the argument is not weak.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I don't think that they're planning on upgrading the roster much.

Are you serious? Based on what?

That statement is completely unbelieveable.

 

[Doomsay]

The upgrade to c team assistant coaches enabled our GM to go on a virtual holiday during free agency, that and the fact that the stadium is improbably sold out, again. Management is simply unconcerned with winning.

 

[Bobhaze]

The Pro Bowlers argument is weak. Esp considering how little it means nowadays, and how many turn it down, so they go through the alternates. One of those pro bowlers you're referencing, Mike Jenkins, was the 3rd alternate.

Making a Pro Bowl is completely overrated.

A Pro Bowl roster consists of 44 players from each conference which adds up to 88 overall for the game. Players are “elected” by a combination of fan, players and coaches votes. So many players originally voted in declined their invitation in 2016, when the original 88 player roster needed 133 players invited before the rosters were finally completed.

Making a Pro Bowl is completely overrated. On the other hand, being voted an ALL PRO is a true accomplishment. It doesn’t include fan, coach or player voting which is much more valid because the writers who cover the game make the selections, taking most of the politics out.

Tyron Smith, Tony Romo, DeMarco Murray, Zack Martin, and DeMarcus Lawrence are the Cowboys players to be selected ALL PRO either first or second team since 2010. Tyron Smith and Zack Martin are the only players who were selected twice. These guys are the cream of our crop.

 

[Risen Star]

And I’m not saying yet that this front office is blowing it, I’m just curious what they seem to be counting on to upgrade this roster.

Thoughts?

Draft really awesome again.

 

[kskboys]

Alternates can come from every team, not just the Cowboys, so no, the argument is not weak.

Disagree, and you didn't address the fact that the number of pro bowlers is affected by several factors. Also, team building is not about counting probowlers, it's about getting your team into super bowl contention. Since we've failed to even come close, that throws another fact against your contention that we're the best drafting team there is. Good/great drafting teams fill the weaknesses that are keeping them out of contention. We are getting better at it, no doubt. Prolly what we need right now is a personnel guy who understands the team building concept.

 

[BrassCowboy]

 

[Bobhaze]

Disagree, and you didn't address the fact that the number of pro bowlers is affected by several factors. Also, team building is not about counting probowlers, it's about getting your team into super bowl contention. Since we've failed to even come close, that throws another fact against your contention that we're the best drafting team there is. Good/great drafting teams fill the weaknesses that are keeping them out of contention. We are getting better at it, no doubt. Prolly what we need right now is a personnel guy who understands the team building concept.

Agree 100%. If roster quality is based on pro bowlers rather than playoff success, then I guess we as fans should be satisfied with our favorite team’s performance the last 20 plus seasons.

 

[kskboys]

Agree 100%. If roster quality is based on pro bowlers rather than playoff success, then I guess we as fans should be satisfied with our favorite team’s performance the last 20 plus seasons.

Jerry has already tried and failed at the collecting pro bowlers idea. It doesn't work.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

Agree 100%. If roster quality is based on pro bowlers rather than playoff success, then I guess we as fans should be satisfied with our favorite team’s performance the last 20 plus seasons.

I said the Cowboys were the best drafting team in the NFL as a counter argument to the “why aren’t we spending money in free agency” debate. My point was backed with solid stats that prove the Cowboys draft more good players (Pro Bowlers) than every team but one. Now since that can’t be refuted, the goal post is getting moved back to “results”. Player acquisition was the debate, not results. Dallas usually has a very talented roster, mainly due to how well the draft. Why they’ve failed in the post season is a separate discussion altogether and it’s irrelevant to my original point.

 

[Bobhaze]

I said the Cowboys were the best drafting team in the NFL as a counter argument to the “why aren’t we spending money in free agency” debate. My point was backed with solid stats that prove the Cowboys draft more good players (Pro Bowlers) than every team but one. Now since that can’t be refuted, the goal post is getting moved back to “results”. Player acquisition was the debate, not results. Dallas usually has a very talented roster, mainly due to how well the draft. Why they’ve failed in the post season is a separate discussion altogether and it’s irrelevant to my original point.

I understand and your point is well made. I just wanted to make clear that I believe roster building should be evaluated first by results, second by pro bowl, and all pro results.

 

[DandyDon52]

I think the FO in under the assumption that Zeke 's..suspension was the root cause for the teams decline. Feeling that having Zeke for a full 16 will right the ship. Hence few changes are needed. This group of rudderless..stooges just don't get it.

Good point I think they feel they have the Super Bowl team that they had one last year and the suspension messed it up so what's the draft picks they think they can Breeze right to the Super Bowl especially with Coach of the Year Garrett leading the way

 

[LittleD]

One of the curious aspects of this offseason so far is that it is not very clear what this FO’s strategy is to upgrade this roster in areas that were clearly problems last year. I’m sure it will be much clearer by late April.

I like the idea of not overpaying for high priced mediocre talent as many teams seem to have done this offseason. I like putting more emphasis on having a quality draft. But if there are no FAs signed that can help this team now, it puts enormous pressure on the draft having immediate impact. That’s not impossible, but it puts all eggs in one basket.

And I’m not saying yet that this front office is blowing it, I’m just curious what they seem to be counting on to upgrade this roster.

Thoughts?

Won't really matter to the Clapper's process since he is the main problem. No improvement possible until the Clapper is dispatched.

 

[Sydla]

I said the Cowboys were the best drafting team in the NFL as a counter argument to the “why aren’t we spending money in free agency” debate. My point was backed with solid stats that prove the Cowboys draft more good players (Pro Bowlers) than every team but one. Now since that can’t be refuted, the goal post is getting moved back to “results”. Player acquisition was the debate, not results. Dallas usually has a very talented roster, mainly due to how well the draft. Why they’ve failed in the post season is a separate discussion altogether and it’s irrelevant to my original point.

But the results are all that matters. Great, they draft well. They still have an incomplete roster that isn't one of the more talented teams in the NFL. While other teams on the cusp will then use trades and FA to fill in those last couple of holes, we seemingly sit it out.

So for all the chatter about how awesome we are at drafting, let's note that here we sit with a roster that has NUMEROUS holes. So guess what? They aren't as good at roster building as you think.