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Degrom can go across town but Torres or Andujar better be one of the 17 players coming back across. If not, then forget it. Nothing else the Yankees may offer is even interesting.
No dice

5-6 years of Torres and Andujar is too much for even 3 postseasons from Degrom

The Yankees farm is very very deep.....you can come up with 4 players
 

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The Wilpons were cheap well before Madoff, they just used that as an excuse to continue on. That scandal did hurt but is not the underlying problem.

I have a feeling DeGrom goes across town but Thor stays, his injuries are a concern.

Piazza would have never been a Met if Doubleday had not pushed for it. The Mets after all had Todd Hundley and the expert baseball minds of Wilpon and Wilpon knew Hundley was as good as Piazza.

Wilpon is friends with Sandy Koufax and that makes him smarter than anyone else in baseball. I feel i have wasted my adult life pulling for that team. I got my grandson who turns 17 on Sunday to pull for the Mets. I am now telling him to find another team. It is not worth the disappointment.
 

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No dice

5-6 years of Torres and Andujar is too much for even 3 postseasons from Degrom

The Yankees farm is very very deep.....you can come up with 4 players

They are deep but are any of the ones being offered in the top 20. Sheffield is #41 on the MLB list and he isnt worth losing DeGrom over.
 

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They are deep but are any of the ones being offered in the top 20. Sheffield is #41 on the MLB list and he isnt worth losing DeGrom over.
Then it is a no go

We aren't creating a giant hole losing our starting 2B and 3B to fill a small hole at SP

We can turn CFrazier, EFlorial, BMckinney, TAustin, BDrury, JSheffield, DTate, CAdams, AAbreau into a SP somewhere else if the Mets aren't interested
 

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It looks like the Tebow to Flushing is gaining steam. I hope he makes it to the majors but I just dont see how he solves any of the multitude of Mets problems other than selling a few extra tickets. Of course Cespedes has quit so he wont be back until the start of next year when he plays a few games and pulls a pinky muscle and goes on the DL again. Next years outfield will be Nimmo in Center, Conforto in right, and Tebow in Left. Man o Man....
 

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It looks like the Tebow to Flushing is gaining steam. I hope he makes it to the majors but I just dont see how he solves any of the multitude of Mets problems other than selling a few extra tickets. Of course Cespedes has quit so he wont be back until the start of next year when he plays a few games and pulls a pinky muscle and goes on the DL again. Next years outfield will be Nimmo in Center, Conforto in right, and Tebow in Left. Man o Man....
He just made the AA AllStar team
 

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Thank you my brother!
Hey Trouty.
I have some trivia for you.
One of the (misguided) reasons I chose East Carolina for undergrad was to play baseball there. Strong baseball traddition there with 29 NCAA tourney appearance...but no CWS.
The trivia part is that ECU's most famous recruit was....Mike Trout.
Unfortunately for us, he ended up going directly to the minors instead.
 

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The Mets have driven me to shame and apathy. It is pretty sad that when I look up the boxscore for the day and am disappointed when they get that rare win.

I want a complete meltdown, like 50 wins max meltdown. That might even make the Cheapons make sweeping changes from top to bottom. It probably wouldn't change a thing but there would be a glimmer of hope :facepalm:

At this point, bring up Tebow and lets watch him flounder. Would be more entertaining than watching this disaster!
 

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In all seriousness, Yanks BP had a killer month of June. BPs win Chips
I think teams are going to start following the TB model in the playoffs and using their bullpens for an entire game

Start with a 100mph guy like the All Star game and let him go a couple innings
Then bring in a Lefty
Then mix and match for the rest of the game

Do it Game2 after your Ace goes Game1 and then use the scheduled day off after Game2 to recharge the bullpen

It is easier to find Bullpen arms then Ace pitchers......not everyone can get a Verlander like last year
 

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I think teams are going to start following the TB model in the playoffs and using their bullpens for an entire game

Start with a 100mph guy like the All Star game and let him go a couple innings
Then bring in a Lefty
Then mix and match for the rest of the game

Do it Game2 after your Ace goes Game1 and then use the scheduled day off after Game2 to recharge the bullpen

It is easier to find Bullpen arms then Ace pitchers......not everyone can get a Verlander like last year
Yup. The BP/6-man rotation/specialty inning pitchers are the new wave of pitching deployment. We've been doing it since 2014 in Anaheim, but not because we are good or can, but out of necessity. Still, because I watch a lot of Angels' games, you could see a trend develop when our extended rotation/by-commitee worked, as it has it's benefits. Batters have never had it so difficult post-5/6th innings. In the postseason, give me the better, dominant BP over lineup and starters 10/10 times, now (assuming a competent -- but not dominant -- other two aspects of the roster)
 

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Yup. The BP/6-man rotation/specialty inning pitchers are the new wave of pitching deployment. We've been doing it since 2014 in Anaheim, but not because we are good or can, but out of necessity. Still, because I watch a lot of Angels' games, you could see a trend develop when our extended rotation/by-commitee worked, as it has it's benefits. Batters have never had it so difficult post-5/6th innings. In the postseason, give me the better, dominant BP over lineup and starters 10/10 times, now (assuming a competent -- but not dominant -- other two aspects of the roster)
That is what makes HOU so tough

They have McCullers, McHough and Peacock that can go multiple innings
 

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I don't agree with any of rules to shorten the game. If you don't like baseball, don't watch it. It is a three hour plus game, full of numbers and stats and chess-like moves (when you have a competent manager coughcough)...

...with that said, I pray to our baseball overlords that they eliminate, or at least put rules on, the shift. It is killing left handed hitters. Eliminate the shift. The NL doesn't need a DH, the clock thingy is stupid, the mound visit count is lame. Baseball game-times have gone down by 6 mins this year, and i'm sure that makes Manfred all hot and horny. Whatever. Just eliminate the damned shift!!! I want my Kole back

The shift is a relatively (in age of baseball years) new tool used by managers, it doesn't upset the game's sanctity (which I am all about protecting) to make it right.
 

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I don't agree with any of rules to shorten the game. If you don't like baseball, don't watch it. It is a three hour plus game, full of numbers and stats and chess-like moves (when you have a competent manager coughcough)...

...with that said, I pray to our baseball overlords that they eliminate, or at least put rules on, the shift. It is killing left handed hitters. Eliminate the shift. The NL doesn't need a DH, the clock thingy is stupid, the mound visit count is lame. Baseball game-times have gone down by 6 mins this year, and i'm sure that makes Manfred all hot and horny. Whatever. Just eliminate the damned shift!!! I want my Kole back

The shift is a relatively (in age of baseball years) new tool used by managers, it doesn't upset the game's sanctity (which I am all about protecting) to make it right.

The shift sucks but what is worse is these hitters still try to pull. It is easy to bunt or poke the bat down the 3rd baseline. That is on coaching and players, not the rules. Small ball is all but dead :(
 

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The shift sucks but what is worse is these hitters still try to pull. It is easy to bunt or poke the bat down the 3rd baseline. That is on coaching and players, not the rules. Small ball is all but dead :(
Small ball isn't dead. Reverse the shift!!!! Hitters will always pull unless you're an Altuve or Trout.

I do want to see Albert lay a slap bunt oppo the shift, but he'd still get thrown out. Slowest runner in baseball -- he hit a ball over the BAL LFers head yesterday, against the wall, for a single. Left field. Ugh. /tangent
 
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