Interesting Tony Romo nugget

[DallasEast]

I agree 100% but he still left couple offers on the table for CBS.......

I doubt that he struggled with the decision to pursue a broadcasting career at all after his desired football career was abruptly and involuntarily terminated.

 

[OmerV]

You can't throw the ball away if you have no D.

Getting sacked and running the risk of injury doesn't help make up for an insufficient defense.

 

[Aviano90]

Miss the point .......my original post stated in 2015 rather than replacing DeMarco Murray with a quality back, FO put their marbles in Joe Randell and the any RB can run behind this line theme. Just like they toyed with the OL unit last year bottom feeders and WR this year. A poster suggested RB was not a problem in 2015. You read my response...... nothing to team problems in general, only the RB issue.

I actually agree backup QB was a huge problem but that wasn't my point.

I think the running game was fine considering how bad the QB/WR combination was. It was actually very similar to 2014. While people make fun of Randle, his averages that year were actually better than Zeke's were last year. And DMC was just slightly below what Murray produced in 2014. Our overall totals were lower because of the reduced number of carries and the touchdown total was lower because we didn't have a lot of scoring opportunities, but I think teams were much more scared of the running game behind our offensive line than they were about the passing game.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

But your point is essentially if they had gotten good QB play they would not have been good because the RB was bad.

I think that's highly debatable when you look at the stats. McFadden, in limited games mind you, was very effective and likely if he had Romo as his QB in 2015, he would have been more than sufficient at TB.

I might buy the argument if the Cowboys TBs had performed dreadful in 2015, but McFadden most definitely did not.

Please don't put words in my mouth. You started the QB issue by saying our 2015 RBs were not a problem. My point had nothing to do with QB. I was admonishing to FO for not following up on an excellent season (2014) by tinkering with what was a good RB unit by not only not resigning Murray ( which was OK ) but putting their marbles in Joe Randle. As for McFadden, his average was good but it didn't impact opposing defensive coor. In fact, as you may remember, we attempted to bring Murray back prior to the 2016 draft. That was with McFadden still on the team.....

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I think the running game was fine considering how bad the QB/WR combination was. It was actually very similar to 2014. While people make fun of Randle, his averages last year were actually better than Zeke's were last year. And DMC was just slightly below what Murray produced in 2014. Our overall totals were lower because of the reduced number of carries and the touchdown total was lower because we didn't have a lot of scoring opportunities, but I think teams were much more scared of the running game behind our offensive line than they were about the passing game.

Agree to disagree ........

 

[Toruk_Makto]

'Walked away' is a polite way of saying what actually happened. What actually transpired was more along the lines of the front office running away giggling hysterically while chanting, "This rookie is sensational! See ya chump! A rookie will lead us to a Super Bowl! Shaddup! I know it has never happened before! A rookie will lead us to a Super Bowl!!!"

And the front office was far (understatement) from solely sharing that mutual perspective and expectation.

Oh yeah. I was here fighting the fight. Fanbase for whatever reason was giddy in getting rid of Romo.

And now same fanbase must blindly protect Dak based on their past actions. There is a guy running around calling himself DakPresgoat. Like what in the world...

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I doubt that he struggled with the decision to pursue a broadcasting career at all after his desired football career was abruptly and involuntarily terminated.

Oh I agree and said so another post that it was likely an easy decision.......

 

[OmerV]

I think the running game was fine considering how bad the QB/WR combination was. It was actually very similar to 2014. While people make fun of Randle, his averages last year were actually better than Zeke's were last year. And DMC was just slightly below what Murray produced in 2014. Our overall totals were lower because of the reduced number of carries and the touchdown total was lower because we didn't have a lot of scoring opportunities, but I think teams were much more scared of the running game behind our offensive line than they were about the passing game.

The reality is there was a dropoff in the running game, but the running game was at least adequate, and actually still strong (just not dominate like the year before). The QB play, however, was nothing like adequate.

 

[Sydla]

Please don't put words in my mouth. You started the QB issue by saying our 2015 RBs were not a problem. My point had nothing to do with QB. I was admonishing to FO for not following up on an excellent season (2014) by tinkering with what was a good RB unit by not only not resigning Murray ( which was OK ) but putting their marbles in Joe Randle. As for McFadden, his average was good but it didn't impact opposing defensive coor. In fact, as you may remember, we attempted to bring Murray back prior to the 2016 draft. That was with McFadden still on the team.....

But that's pretty much what you are saying.

You are saying they followed up the 2014 by tinkering with the RB spot and it appears you believe it was a mistake. But why?

The fact is McFadden had a good year in 2015 when you consider the Cowboys had zero passing game. He finished as a Top 5 rusher in like 12 games without a QB. I am unsure how anyone can conclude then that RB was a big problem in 2015.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

But that's pretty much what you are saying.

You are saying they followed up the 2014 by tinkering with the RB spot and it appears you believe it was a mistake. But why?

The fact is McFadden had a good year in 2015 when you consider the Cowboys had zero passing game. He finished as a Top 5 rusher in like 12 games without a QB. I am unsure how anyone can conclude then that RB was a big problem in 2015.

Let's move on .......agree to disagree

 

[OmerV]

Oh yeah. I was here fighting the fight. Fanbase for whatever reason was giddy in getting rid of Romo.

And now same fanbase must blindly protect Dak based on their past actions. There is a guy running around calling himself DakPresgoat. Like what in the world...

This is exaggerated and misleading. There may have been a few that were "giddy", but those extremists aren't reflective of the majority of the fan base. The reality is a considerable portion of the fan base was upset Romo wasn't give the job back, and the majority of those who favored keeping Dak as the starter would have been fine with Romo had the injuries not been such a problem for 2 seasons.

 

[Aviano90]

The reality is there was a dropoff in the running game, but the running game was at least adequate, and actually still strong (just not dominate like the year before). The QB play, however, was nothing like adequate.

There wasn't much of a drop off though. We averaged 4.6 ypc both years. We scored a TD or got a 1st down on ~25% of the carries in both years. About the only drop off was in scoring TDs because we had more opportunities in 2014 than in 2015 and in short yardage. In 2014, we converted 3rd/4th and short 80% to only 67% in 2015. That said, 3 more short yardage conversions in 2015 and that is nearly identical.

The running games were very similar. The perception of the running game is vastly different though.

 

[DallasEast]

This is exaggerated and misleading. There may have been a few that were "giddy", but those extremists aren't reflective of the majority of the fan base. The reality is a considerable portion of the fan base was upset Romo wasn't give the job back, and the majority of those who favored keeping Dak as the starter would have been fine with Romo had the injuries not been such a problem for 2 seasons.

Just for clarification. Is it:

• fine with Romo returning as the starter? or
• fine with Romo returning as the backup?

 

[Blackspider214]

That's tough to listen to. We've been spoiled over the last 10 years and that includes Dak's good season. I'm not saying that Romo is some Hall of Famer, just that I don't want to go back to the days between Aikman and Romo. Those were rough years.

Spoiled over the last 10 years? Lmao. You mean those 2 measly wild card wins. One of only 3 teams in the last 2 decades in the NFC not to make the the NFC championship game? How on earth are we spoiled? We have made the playoffs a total of 3 times in the last 10 years.

This fake mystique of Romo and over sensationalizing his time here is ridiculous. The Jay Cutler/Rex Grossman era for the Bears was infinitely more successful than Romo's tenure yet do you hear them reminiscing on those days? Absolutely not.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

This is exaggerated and misleading. There may have been a few that were "giddy", but those extremists aren't reflective of the majority of the fan base. The reality is a considerable portion of the fan base was upset Romo wasn't give the job back, and the majority of those who favored keeping Dak as the starter would have been fine with Romo had the injuries not been such a problem for 2 seasons.

Revisionist history.

 

[OmerV]

Just for clarification. Is it:

• fine with Romo returning as the starter? or
• fine with Romo returning as the backup?

Most people were fine with Romo as the starter before health became an issue.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Spoiled over the last 10 years? Lmao. You mean those 2 measly wild card wins. One of only 3 teams in the last 2 decades in the NFC not to make the the NFC championship game? How on earth are we spoiled? We have made the playoffs a total of 3 times in the last 10 years.

This fake mystique of Romo and over sensationalizing his time here is ridiculous. The Jay Cutler/Rex Grossman era for the Bears was infinitely more successful than Romo's tenure yet do you hear them reminiscing on those days? Absolutely not.

Spoiled in that they got to watch a lot of elite QB play. The rest of the roster was not up to snuff. Both of those things can be true.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Most people were fine with Romo as the starter before health became an issue.

The vast majority of people on this forum did not want Romo back in the lineup in the midst of Dak and Co on a win streak that extended right into the last week of the regular season. Romo should have been reinserted. Was a stupid gambit then and remains a stupid gambit now.

 

[OmerV]

Revisionist history.

You are generalizing - taking the belief of a small number of fans with extreme views and attributing their beliefs to the entirety of the fan base. I suspect the problem is you are just as extreme on the other side. It makes for a weak argument because extremists have no ability to deal in or discuss anything but extremes, and the reality the majority of people are almost always more in the middle.

Heck, anyone that has spent any time on this site knows there were a lot of people that not only felt Romo should have got the job back, but were flat angry that he didn't. The proof of what I say is right here in this website. To this day there are still a lot of fans arguing that.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The shootout with Denver was one of the most heartbreaking losses to see. Romo was doing everything he could, but we couldn't stop anything.

And I just knew it was going to end like it did.