The Case Against an Earl Thomas Trade

[Corso]

Tim Cowlishaw has said that he's surprised he isn't already here based on his sources.

Which means nothing. Thank you.

 

[erod]

Against that running back masquerading as a quarterback? I'll take my chances. Of all the things I might fear, Newton as a passer isn't one.



"Wide open"? It's obvious. You're willing to give Seattle anything and everything they want. The rest of us - and the Cowboys front office - aren't.

You think Dak is going to light up that defense? LOL

With Thomas, that could be a 3-2 victory.

 

[Stash]

He'll show up at the end of camp, but that's toxic for their locker room at this point. They probably can't play him, but they'll have to pay him.

That sure sounds like some incentive for Seattle to want to trade him to me...

 

[Corso]

You think Dak is going to light up that defense? LOL

With Thomas, that could be a 3-2 victory.

Wow... so you definitely think Dallas is going 7-9 this year.

 

[Stash]

You think Dak is going to light up that defense? LOL

And yet another clear attack on Prescott. At least you're consistent.

Here's a fun thought. Do you want to compare his and Newtons's numbers over the past two years? Say the word.

With Thomas, that could be a 3-2 victory.

We sure have the advantage at quarterback.

 

[erod]

Which means nothing. Thank you.

Cowlishaw knows Thomas agent well. They're all Longhorns. And he knows the Cowboys inside as well as anyone.

So it means quite a bit actually.

 

[Corso]

And yet another clear attack on Prescott. At least you're consistent.

Here's a fun thought. Do you want to compare his and Newtons's numbers over the past two years? Say the word.



We sure have the advantage at quarterback.

I shouldn't be, but I'm a bit staggered at his outlook on Dak. Of course, this is the guy who was hating on Taco like he was Satan's shoulder imp last year...

 

[OmerV]

OK, let's slow down a bit.

This is a good, young roster with two fatal flaws. A huge hole in the deep middle of the defense and a QB that isn't ready to carry the team on his arm.

That's a bad formula.

Earl Thomas isn't just a single player. He fixes an overall defensive issue that allows the ENTIRE defense to play more aggressively and more confidently. He's like what Zeke is for the run game.

That makes a huge difference. It allows your limited QB to make more mistakes when the defense can erase them. That's what Seattle did for years with young Wilson.

So now you can win 17-14 instead of having to win 28-24 all the time. That's huge.

That helps Dak a ton. That gives you a potential road map to exceed what you are. Then, 11-5 is far more possible.

I disagree with the notion there is a "huge hole" in the deep middle of the defense. We don't have big playmakers in the deep middle of the defense, but there is no history of the deep middle getting torched either. Upgrades would help, but I just don't believe there is the fatal flaw that some see.

 

[Doomsday101]

That sure sounds like some incentive for Seattle to want to trade him to me...

I don't know players tend to be more understanding about holdout and contract disputes than fans. Player telling a team pay me or trade me is not that uncommon and should Seahawks pay him I doubt there will be any issue in the locker room

 

[erod]

Wow... so you definitely think Dallas is going 7-9 this year.

Without Earl Thomas, that's about right. All depends on Dak becoming an NFL-caliber pocket quarterback.

 

[Corso]

Cowlishaw knows Thomas agent well. They're all Longhorns. And he knows the Cowboys inside as well as anyone.

So it means quite a bit actually.

No... no it doesn't. I have an agent myself. He knows and is "in" with producers and directors and even he only knows so much of what's really going on.
Tim Cowlishaw is not Earl's mouthpiece.

 

[erod]

I disagree with the notion there is a "huge hole" in the deep middle of the defense. We don't have big playmakers in the deep middle of the defense, but there is no history of the deep middle getting torched either. Upgrades would help, but I just don't believe there is the fatal flaw that some see.

Our deep middle has been obliterated for the past decade. Have you been watching the games?

 

[Corso]

Without Earl Thomas, that's about right. All depends on Dak becoming an NFL-caliber pocket quarterback.

We should make a bet, but not with either of us leaving.
I don't want you to leave.

 

[Stash]

Man sorry we do not agree, I have no issue with paying talent.

No need to apologize. We can disagree amicably.

In terms of draft picks we are in more of an agreement. 4 years 48 mill with incentives I don't think it unfair to a top player. The draft picks is between seahawks and Cowboys, the deal with the player is between team and player. Either you feel he is an elite player worthy of the deal or you don't. However at this stage this is all meaningless since there appears there is no movement on this.

Sorry, but you're trying to disconnect two factors that are irrevocably connected. None of it is happening in a vacuum. It's not either draft pick or money, it's both. And therefore it all has to be factored together.

Again, if Thomas is thinking like you are, he can sit and rot in Seattle. His situation isn't anything like Eric Berry's or any of the other highly-paid safeties. None cost both huge money and significant draft picks for the team to acquire.

 

[erod]

No... no it doesn't. I have an agent myself. He knows and is "in" with producers and directors and even he only knows so much of what's really going on.
Tim Cowlishaw is not Earl's mouthpiece.

He knows the discussions that have been had. Seattle is pissed right now. They don't like being muscled.

They should have already pulled the trigger, but they're being stubborn. That is something nobody can predict or control.

 

[Corso]

He knows the discussions that have been had. Seattle is pissed right now. They don't like being muscled.

They should have already pulled the trigger, but they're being stubborn. That is something nobody can predict or control.

Which has nothing to do with Earl only going to Dallas, if traded. Stop muddying that water.

 

[erod]

We should make a bet, but not with either of us leaving.
I don't want you to leave.

Last year was 8-8. (Don't count that 6-0 win against Philly's 3rd-stringers.)

Subtract Dez and Witten. Add some promising draft picks.

Who knows? But you can't exactly predict much higher as is.

 

[erod]

Which has nothing to do with Earl only going to Dallas, if traded. Stop muddying that water.

If Earl was openly willing to sign anywhere, there would be tons of interest in trading. The price would be going WAY up. But it's not.

Read the tea leaves here.

 

[Stash]

I shouldn't be, but I'm a bit staggered at his outlook on Dak. Of course, this is the guy who was hating on Taco like he was Satan's shoulder imp last year...

It's a clear contradiction.

If Dak is as "terrible" as he wants to keep claiming at every turn, even when it's completely unrelated, then there's zero reason to give up a valuable draft asset that we'll need to find "his quarterback". And there's even less reason to have to rush to sign Thomas this year, with "Dak stopping us from winning anything anyway". It's a clear contradiction that it appears he's unaware he's making.

 

[ChuckA1]

So, how many times were the Cowboys leading in the 4th quarter only to get torched with a 30 yard pass? We may have kept them down in yardage all game, but lost several games in the 4th, either by a long run up the middle or a long pass. I believe ET will help reduce that occurrence.