If Dak can't throw, how do you explain 2016?

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Needed to go where Brady, Brees, Goff, and Ryan went then lol

You have :hammer:with the above reply. Mentor aside, whoever that is, all of the QBs mentioned above have one thing that Dak doesn't ... the ability to throw a football on a frozen rope at 30 yards and split an index card. We can talk about confidence, psychology, OL, absence of running game, opposing defenses catching up, holding the ball too long, not feeling pressure, etc., but that's overlooking one rather critical aspect of Quarterbacking in the Pros..

Having been an ardent student of Pro ball for some 55 years, I firmly believe that a unbelievably strong and accurate arm is not a plus - it's a necessity. All the great ones had them with the exception of Montana. But then, he had Rice, Taylor and Clark. We don't.

Having this dynamite arm does not guarantee success in the League as there are tons who had it, (Jeff George comes to mind), and failed miserably. It's at that point we can start to look at all of the "maybes" that could possibly mitigate. Without the "ARM", which, by the way, cannot be taught or developed ... well, you know ...
 

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I remember when some suggested Prescott could be another Robert Griffin.

Minus the injury, things are trending that way.

The same star-struck Jerry Jones.
RGIII has better socks. He looks like Buckwheat. Dak seems more coachable. He looks like a thinner Rock.
 

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If dak can't throw, how do you explain 2016?

If zeke was a crutch for dak in 2016, how do you explain week 1?

I think OL from 2016 was possibly one best ever for Dallas. It probably over-inflated Dak true skill set because he stayed clean in pocket. I remember the Giants game that year when I think Dak could have read part of book then looked up to make his throw. Aikman has spoken about this recently that pocket isn't as clean but likely similar to what every QB in NFL goes thru, but Dak can't process this reads when protection is average. It puts whole organization in pickle because it doesn't allow much margin of error from 5 guys along OL. I do think Broaddus is onto something that Dallas needs to ditch traditional NFL approach and go more with college Read Option. Need to get Daks legs involved or he is below avg QB.
 

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I was all for having Dak sit behind romo and learn and improve. It would've done him a world of good. I figured romo had two more years in him at the beginning of the season and I liked what I saw in Dak. But once you put a quarterback out there like this, if he isn't ready, well chances are he gets ruined. I think once you thrown out to the wolves like this when you aren't ready, you don't get better, you get worse.

meh. Every QB is different. The offense was humming and Dak was playing all world that rookie year. 11 wins in a row is not something to take lightly. Romo was toast. He might have had a year or two left. In hindsight, it may have been better to let them have an open competition in 2017. But this team hasn't been a true contender since the 90's. Romo starting and being healthy for 16 games wouldn't have changed the outcome last year. Maybe we make the playoffs and lose. This team is in a rebuild transition. Young QB's need time to develop and go through growing pains.

I was the BIGGEST Dak fan on here. And now I have no problem saying that he is at crossroads. 2016 truly was fools gold to an extent.
 

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Many teams weren't even sure that Ramsey was a Corner let alone a shut down corner (some teams had him as a Saftey). RB. True every down backs are a rare commodity and Zeke is that kind of a player.
Love Zeke buddy. And I jumped for joy when they drafted him. But like I said, I would have taken Ramsey. I love defense and a dominant run game. But you need the D first. You get the back at the end as icing on the cake.

Murray was every bit as effective as Zeke. 1800 yards rushing that year. 3rd round pick. And especially if you have a great oline with 3 pro bowlers. Im curious to see how Zeke does with an average Oline in front of him this year. We will see truly how good he is. He has to earn it now. No more free rides. Same with Dak. They are in the same boat.
 

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Well he said it was hard to sit on the bench watching the team lose knowing you can’t do anything about it but it is harder to sit on the bench watching the team win knowing you’re not needed. That was very telling.
Not needed? Did we win a Super Bowl that year? . . .then yes he was needed
 

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Romo was toast
Is this a fact. .. . no it's the lie you Dak supporters spewed in 2016, in order to throw Romo under the bus.

Be honest from here on out and just admit you backed the fool's gold that is Dakota. And in order to justify the stupid decision to abandon a seasoned vet that was in his prime and considered one of the best at his position. You continued to push the narrative Romo was finished. A lie
 

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Love Zeke buddy. And I jumped for joy when they drafted him. But like I said, I would have taken Ramsey. I love defense and a dominant run game. But you need the D first. You get the back at the end as icing on the cake.

Murray was every bit as effective as Zeke. 1800 yards rushing that year. 3rd round pick. And especially if you have a great oline with 3 pro bowlers. Im curious to see how Zeke does with an average Oline in front of him this year. We will see truly how good he is. He has to earn it now. No more free rides. Same with Dak. They are in the same boat.
You take Zeke if he is gonna play with Romo. Not to rebuild with a 4th rd pick idiotic front office
 

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Yes. That was ceteiniy nice of Dak to say. It was much better than “did you see Romo pouting on the bench looking like I just stole his girlfriend?”.

Yes, Dak, we did see that. We saw a lot of sulking Romo.

Come on that's ridiculous. Romo basically gave the team to Dak, saying that this is Dak's team now and strained his relationship with Garrett by doing so. Romo was a class act during this
 

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Is this a fact. .. . no it's the lie you Dak supporters spewed in 2016, in order to throw Romo under the bus.

Be honest from here on out and just admit you backed the fool's gold that is Dakota. And in order to justify the stupid decision to abandon a seasoned vet that was in his prime and considered one of the best at his position. You continued to push the narrative Romo was finished. A lie

No, Im a Romo supporter as well. Romo was physically spent. Maybe could have pushed another year out of him. But with the Oline problems he would have gotten hurt bad. But I guess we will never know because he quit.
 

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You take Zeke if he is gonna play with Romo. Not to rebuild with a 4th rd pick idiotic front office

Romo needed a D more than he needed a run game in my opinion. With that Oline, just give me another 3rd round back would have been fine.
 

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I am not flipping anything. He needs to be better. But when you suggest that often times you hear excuses like stacked boxes or the Qab sucks, but these same excuses will not be extended to Randle, DMC, or Morris. No, they just suck which required is to go get Zeke. And now when Zeke really isn’t performing all that great the excuse train comes rolling out.

Zeke needs to improve, do you agree or disagree with that statement?

And to answer your question, no RB is worth that high of a pick.

Well I think it is just a few people who think Zeke isn't performing.
 

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Well I think it is just a few people who think Zeke isn't performing.
There is a difference between performing and performing like a great player. DMC performed, did he not? We needed improvement in the form of a 4th overall pick. Are you satisfied with that improvement relative to the investment?
 
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Yes, he isn’t worth a 4th. What he provides isn’t that much greater than we could get with much less of an investment. Now you are catching on. He needs to produce head and shoulders above what we can get from another back and he doesn’t do that. Bad pick.

He is a good player but a luxury we didnt need.
Luxury? Zeke is the offense. Everything in the offense revolves around him. From your point of view, I guess Emmitt was an unneeded luxury too.
 

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"And I think Tony did a great job, and I commend Tony and thank him so much for that -- of being another coach for me, of helping me out, of in the middle of the game, at practice, on the field [and] off the field, giving me advice. And as a guy who went through exactly what I went through -- taking over the position from an older veteran, and knowing what it's like to be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, and just helping me out." - Dak Prescott

I also have my eyes that saw Tony Romo helping Dak Prescott.
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Luxury? Zeke is the offense. Everything in the offense revolves around him. From your point of view, I guess Emmitt was an unneeded luxury too.
The offense sucks, right? Not a glowing endorsement of him.
 

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Dak was given fewer options that season, don’t you believe that Tony helped him with his in game options, either directly or indirectly communicated through to Linehan / Wilson?

Beyond the novelty of Dak and Zeke, there was something more programmed adjusted and simplified about Dak’s snaps that year.
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