I am sick of one side officiating

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First of all, I do complain about the refs, they suck. Not just against us, but far too often they call silly penalties at important junctures that really favor one team over another. For instance, it is convenient that in desperate moments, GB seems to get a favorable flag. Of course, in the Minn game, the opposite happened, they got screwed by a bogus roughing the passer call that took away a victory.

Second, the Dallas offense is pathetic. They are too off and on. They really hurt our chances of winning any road game. Thankfully we have a very good defense, especially in the red zone. Heck, the only TD the D gave up, their was a huge clip not called. They bend, but rarely break.

Third, you are a disrespectful individual. Telling other posters to shut up and throwing out insults like a typical child. Then, you go to the old internet tough guy line. Classicly lame. I did not insult you, call you names, or try to censor your opinion. I am actually a very respectful poster, you on the other hand are not. I don't care if you dislike or disagree with my opinion, but istead of insults, maybe try a civil discourse. Maybe give counter opinions, so we can have a grown up conversation. Afterall most of us are fans of the Cowboys.
That is exactly what happens. Those calls put Brady in the super bowl last year. He was stinking it up, so they gave him some extra chances.
 

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I haven't read this thread because I know it will include all the usual b.s. about don't blame the refs etc. The officiating has been so one sided against the Cowboys for so long, I'm not sure how it can be reasonably denied at this point.

We get a few calls here and there. But the vast majority of back breaking, game deciding questionable calls goes against this team and it's not remotely close. It's like the 12 men in the huddle call that came out of no where.

If LPL has been doing the same thing for 14 years why was it suddenly a penalty against us on Sunday? A little common sense goes a long way.

I'm pretty objective, and I just don't see how people can't see the obvious bias against the Cowboys, as a general rule, by the officials.
 

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The Redakins had blocks in the back the entire game, at the point of attack, that had direct affects on the play time after time on Sunday that were never called. That was a very one sided called game. It sucked.
 

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Jesus, some of you guys are so ridiculous. One of these games I’ll watch with a pen and paper and document every time a Cowboy commits a penalty and it’s not called. It happens every game and on every play for both teams. We got a ticky tac penalty that may or may not have cost us the game, it happens to every team and we’ve been on the good and bad side.

Anyone remember the Detroit game before playing GB? Please don’t try to argue that Hitchens didn’t commit PI, multiple flags were thrown and picked up and that Dez shouldn’t have been flagged for running on the field with his helmet off and argued with officials. And yes, I’m well aware of the rules and Suh but 99.9% of the time that would have been a penalty. If it happened to us, some of you would be screaming your heads off and still talking about it today (like the Dez non catch).

Please just acknowledge that the officiating sucks league wide and there is no conspiracy.
 

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Jesus, some of you guys are so ridiculous. One of these games I’ll watch with a pen and paper and document every time a Cowboy commits a penalty and it’s not called. It happens every game and on every play for both teams. We got a ticky tac penalty that may or may not have cost us the game, it happens to every team and we’ve been on the good and bad side.

Anyone remember the Detroit game before playing GB? Please don’t try to argue that Hitchens didn’t commit PI, multiple flags were thrown and picked up and that Dez shouldn’t have been flagged for running on the field with his helmet off and argued with officials. And yes, I’m well aware of the rules and Suh but 99.9% of the time that would have been a penalty. If it happened to us, some of you would be screaming your heads off and still talking about it today (like the Dez non catch).

Please just acknowledge that the officiating sucks league wide and there is no conspiracy.

If you don't think that the league was proving a point by not calling a single holding call against an opposing OL against us for the most of last year, then you simply aren't paying attention or have your head in the sand.
 

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If you don't think that the league was proving a point by not calling a single holding call against an opposing OL against us for the most of last year, then you simply aren't paying attention or have your head in the sand.
So what were they trying to prove this year against Detroit when our guys were holding all over the place yet miraculously we only had 2 penalties compared to their 8?
 

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The conspiracy theorist's kryptonite is this simple question:

If the refs/league are conspiring to do-in the Cowboys, then why are you still watching?

It's effectively no different than a pro wrestling fan complaining the outcome of the matches are rigged.
 

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Jesus, some of you guys are so ridiculous. One of these games I’ll watch with a pen and paper and document every time a Cowboy commits a penalty and it’s not called. It happens every game and on every play for both teams. We got a ticky tac penalty that may or may not have cost us the game, it happens to every team and we’ve been on the good and bad side.

Anyone remember the Detroit game before playing GB? Please don’t try to argue that Hitchens didn’t commit PI, multiple flags were thrown and picked up and that Dez shouldn’t have been flagged for running on the field with his helmet off and argued with officials. And yes, I’m well aware of the rules and Suh but 99.9% of the time that would have been a penalty. If it happened to us, some of you would be screaming your heads off and still talking about it today (like the Dez non catch).

Please just acknowledge that the officiating sucks league wide and there is no conspiracy.

On the specific Hitchens call, the pass interference never had legitimacy. The Lions reciever had a grip on Hitchens face mask. Hitchens had his arms out, showing dramatically that he was not interfering. It was ridiculous to call the situation a one sided penalty on Hitchens. I knew it from the first moment!

so.... "Don't even try to argue that pass interference was legitimate"
 

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On the specific Hitchens call, the pass interference never had legitimacy. The Lions reciever had a grip on Hitchens face mask. Hitchens had his arms out, showing dramatically that he was not interfering. It was ridiculous to call the situation a one sided penalty on Hitchens. I knew it from the first moment!

so.... "Don't even try to argue that pass interference was legitimate"
Yeah, it's ridiculous for people to bring that up. It was OPI on the Lions TE. The only thing Hitchens did that was close to a flag was tugging at the guys jersey earlier in the route which was not part of the call.
 

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It looks pretty clear to be more than 1 CM of movement. Self scouting is as important as scouting the other team and that's part of coaching. I don't subscribe to the league conspiracy again the Cowboys, they just aren't that good.

I didn't say it was a conspiracy against the Cowboys, but its pretty much is a conspiracy theory to claim that call happened because of a coaching lapse by the Cowboys.

Ladocouceur has been in the league for 14 years and Garrett has been his head coach for 8. So there is some massive coaching failure that took the NFL this long to figure out?
 

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On the specific Hitchens call, the pass interference never had legitimacy. The Lions reciever had a grip on Hitchens face mask. Hitchens had his arms out, showing dramatically that he was not interfering. It was ridiculous to call the situation a one sided penalty on Hitchens. I knew it from the first moment!

Exactly, the claim was he blocked the TEs field of view when the TE held Hitchens by the facemask, then moved into Hitchens.

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Exactly, the claim was he blocked the TEs field of view when the TE held Hitchens by the facemask, then moved into Hitchens.


RIght! Of course, I'm getting so cynical at this point, I'd be less surprised than I'd ought to be, if they called a penalty on Hitchens for GETTING facemasked by the WR.
 

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RIght! Of course, I'm getting so cynical at this point, I'd be less surprised than I'd ought to be, if they called a penalty on Hitchens for GETTING facemasked by the WR.

The calls do even out over time but sometimes the timing of calls is so perfectly timed to get an outcome that you have to wonder.

And last year you will never convince me that it was a fluke that holding calls on Dallas opponents completely stopped for 8 weeks when Jerry challenged Goodell's contract extension and the started again once the issue was resolved - something that statistically has only happened twice in NFL history - and its just a coincidence.
 

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On the specific Hitchens call, the pass interference never had legitimacy. The Lions reciever had a grip on Hitchens face mask. Hitchens had his arms out, showing dramatically that he was not interfering. It was ridiculous to call the situation a one sided penalty on Hitchens. I knew it from the first moment!

so.... "Don't even try to argue that pass interference was legitimate"

And what always gets overlooked by Cowboy fans regarding that play is that Hitchen's is holding on the TE which is what initiated all the contact.
 

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Jesus, some of you guys are so ridiculous. One of these games I’ll watch with a pen and paper and document every time a Cowboy commits a penalty and it’s not called. It happens every game and on every play for both teams. We got a ticky tac penalty that may or may not have cost us the game, it happens to every team and we’ve been on the good and bad side.

Anyone remember the Detroit game before playing GB? Please don’t try to argue that Hitchens didn’t commit PI, multiple flags were thrown and picked up and that Dez shouldn’t have been flagged for running on the field with his helmet off and argued with officials. And yes, I’m well aware of the rules and Suh but 99.9% of the time that would have been a penalty. If it happened to us, some of you would be screaming your heads off and still talking about it today (like the Dez non catch).

Please just acknowledge that the officiating sucks league wide and there is no conspiracy.
No one's talking about just one call, it's obvious calls you don't even have to look for that are missed against the opposition. And if you really want to bring up the Lions game Pettigrew was holding Hitchens prior to his run in. And if Pettigrew stopped for the badly underthrown ball it's PI, but he kept running. Go watch the replay, have fun.
 

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The calls do even out over time but sometimes the timing of calls is so perfectly timed to get an outcome that you have to wonder.

And last year you will never convince me that it was a fluke that holding calls on Dallas opponents completely stopped for 8 weeks when Jerry challenged Goodell's contract extension and the started again once the issue was resolved - something that statistically has only happened twice in NFL history - and its just a coincidence.
proof is there, not hard to see it
 

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It's a comical take that this was some brilliant seed planted by the Skins coaching staff.

No sir. The home team's 5 minutes ago sure victory was now in doubt.

Rather hear the wrath of the fans, they modified the offsides penalty one way to the crazy snap infraction against LP. 2000 career snaps, 2000 repeated snap function. Arguably the best to ever do it.

Same thing happened to the Panthers in Philly after the clinching INT was inexplicably overturned to give Wentz one more chance for heroics.

The league is almost rigged towards parody insurance. It's a joke.

I addressed the Panthers interception at the link below. It wasn't an INT.

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/anyone-seeing-eric-reid.418022/#post-8590840
 

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Every coach in the NFL does this to the officials in every single game. The flag on our Snapper moving the ball one centimeter after a Commander jumped offsides, who never looked the ball, had nothing to do with coaching. The Ref either had some agenda or made the dumbest call of his entire life. It has nothing to do with coaching.

And by the way..........



Regarding this guy's tweet, that official wouldn't be the ideal one to make a call concerning the line. That would be the job of the aptly named Line Judge who's there to make sure no one lined up offside, jumped offside, false started, or reacted to ball movement.
 

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The calls do even out over time but sometimes the timing of calls is so perfectly timed to get an outcome that you have to wonder.

And last year you will never convince me that it was a fluke that holding calls on Dallas opponents completely stopped for 8 weeks when Jerry challenged Goodell's contract extension and the started again once the issue was resolved - something that statistically has only happened twice in NFL history - and its just a coincidence.

Where is it documented that such no calls on opposing OLs has only happened twice in NFL history? Rarity of the occurrence was my number 1 question to people when they trot this out.
 
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