Video sums up Dak/Wentz debate

[Romo_To_Dez]

Some things are wrong here. First off they say Dak is successful because of the talent around him and Wentz is successful because he can put his team on his back.

Last year Wentz had a great defense, great OL and the number 3 run game in the league. Why does the same not apply to Wentz? People talk about the injuries....... Really Dak was missing 3 of his 5 starting OL and 2 of them are all-pro but yet beat the Saints.

They also said Dak has never been in the MVP discussion and that's false. In 16 he finished top 10 in MVP race and was top 5 the first half of last year.

Why all the excuses for Wentz when he was the number 2 overall pick but Dak who was basically a 5th rounder gets all the blame and never any credit. Talking about credit, Dak isn't giving himself credit for any wins which is another thing they were wrong on.

Not only that but Wentz has been the reason Philly has lost games. Picks on game winning drives and has more fumbles than Dak in his career. So Wentz has more picks, more fumbles, less game winning drives by a mile, lower completion percentage, lower ypa, lower passer rating, less wins, less rushing TDs and the list goes on and on but somehow he is better even though he has had more talent and better coaching....... Haha please you Wentz lovers are fools

Wentz can put a team on his back, they mean the same team that was talented enough where Foles was able to take them through the playoffs and win the Superbowl?

Wentz maybe good, but he isn't a elite "put a team on his back" type of QB. He isn't Brady who can turn any WR into a productive weapon. Saying that Wentz can put a team on his back, when his team has a good WR corps and yet is 6-6 and on the verge of having their season be over with if they lose to the Cowboys on Sunday. And also is QBing the worst defending Superbowl champions in NFL history, who might not just miss the playoffs, but could end up finishing the season with a losing record, if they lose to Dallas,the Rams and Texans.

 

[jnday]

I agree with it all. Wentz will be a top QB in the league within the next five years. He should have been a Cowboy.

 

[keysersoze]

So let me get this straight.

Dak had a great rookie year because of everything around him. Wentz rookie year wasnt as great because he didn't have the weapons and team Dak had.

Dak 2nd year he took a step back because that's who he is and they had film on him and had nothing to do with what was happening around him. Wentz got his weapons and a better team around him and was a mvp candidate because that's who he is and he's just that good, forgetting about his rookie year.

Daks 3rd year he starts off with OL issues and no TE or WR and his play wasn't as good but its on him. He gets a little help with a new WR and some better OL play and the D is dominating and starts ti play a bit better but his play had nothing to do with it, it's the D and the players around him. Wentz loses his run game, good D and wr aren't as good and that's the reason he's not playing as well, plus his knee.

What I get from all this is, Wentz has proven he needs players around him but he gets credit for it when they play well and no blame when they dont. Dak has shown he needs player's around him but gets not credit for it when they have success and it's everyone else that gets credit. Its his fault when they dont have the player's around him and the don't have success.

Wentz: doesn't have players and success drops off but not his fault .

Wentz : does have players and had success but it's all him.

Dak: doesn't have player's and success drops off but he can't carry a team and isn't a good QB.

Dak: does have players and has success but that's not him, that's the team winning, nothing to do with Dak .

Yep. That just about sums it up

 

[jnday]

I like dak. He's improving weekly. But if given the choice between dak and wentz, I'd take wentz. He does everything better than dak with the possible exception of running the ball.

If you look st s few clips, Wentz is no slouch running the ball.

 

[jnday]

Spot on!

The Dak hating/Wentz lovers love making excuses for Wentz and giving him full recognition... but not for Dak.

This thread is exposing who truly is a Cowboy fan and who is an iggles fan.

This is a joke. Who are you to question my fandom of over 45 years? If somebody disagrees with you, they are not a fan. Since when did you become the judge in fandom. I question the fandom of those that supports anything the Cowboys do, even when it was wrong.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

this video is aboslutley sums it up and exactly what I have been arguing about Dak.....and you notice...there is nothing wrong with that...you build a TEAM to win you don't build a QB to win, although QB is important....

 

[Sydla]

Which QB has more wins since 2016? Dak is clearly better.
Dak 29-15 65.7% Completion
Wentz 23-16 63.6

Brady 33-7
Brees 28-16
Wilson 26-17-1
Ryan 26-17-1
Rivers 23-21
Rodgers 18-16-1

The fact he has the similar win numbers as Brees and Wilson should indicate to you that win totals aren’t the greatest indicator of who is a better QB.

 

[DCowboyz]

I was actually surprised DeAngelo Hall was talking good about Dak. Actually being one of our ex rivals. Anyway, Dak and Wentz are different types of QB's. The better passer is of course Wentz, but I feel like Dak has other things going for him. He's clutch, especially late in the game, he can run for that TD or for that first down, and he rarely turns the ball over, except just recently, with the fumbles. If Dak was a little more accurate, and held the ball a bit less, there wouldn't be a Wentz > Dak comparison.

 

[Sydla]

This is a joke. Who are you to question my fandom of over 45 years? If somebody disagrees with you, they are not a fan. Since when did you become the judge in fandom. I question the fandom of those that supports anything the Cowboys do, even when it was wrong.

It’s the standard play from the homers.

If you don’t think all our players are the best, you clearly are a troll and not a real cowboys fan.

Pay these guys zero attention.

 

[keysersoze]

The fact he has the similar win numbers as Brees and Wilson should indicate to you that win totals aren’t the greatest indicator of who is a better QB.

Winning is the only stat that really matters. Unless you’re a whiny *** millennial who’s into fantasy football and madden games.

 

[keysersoze]

This is a joke. Who are you to question my fandom of over 45 years? If somebody disagrees with you, they are not a fan. Since when did you become the judge in fandom. I question the fandom of those that supports anything the Cowboys do, even when it was wrong.

So what’s your real reason for supporting Wentz over Dak? Be honest

 

[Nexx]

agreed 100%

 

[keysersoze]

Wentz can put a team on his back, they mean the same team that was talented enough where Foles was able to take them through the playoffs and win the Superbowl?

Wentz maybe good, but he isn't a elite "put a team on his back" type of QB. He isn't Brady who can turn any WR into a productive weapon. Saying that Wentz can put a team on his back, when his team has a good WR corps and yet is 6-6 and on the verge of having their season be over with if they lose to the Cowboys on Sunday. And also is QBing the worst defending Superbowl champions in NFL history, who might not just miss the playoffs, but could end up finishing the season with a losing record, if they lose to Dallas,the Rams and Texans.

Yep!!!!

 

[Established1971]

I remember when Merriman was better that Demarcus Ware supposedly. Remember that?

 

[Sydla]

Winning is the only stat that really matters. Unless you’re a whiny *** millennial who’s into fantasy football and madden games.

Winning isn’t always tied to the QB you have.

Are you going to tell us Dak is a better QB than Drew Brees?

 

[keysersoze]

Winning isn’t always tied to the QB you have.

Are you going to tell us Dak is a better QB than Drew Brees?

He was last Thursday night. That’s all that matters until they meet again.

 

[Sydla]

So what’s your real reason for supporting Wentz over Dak? Be honest

Is he “supporting” Wentz? Or just stating his opinion that he thinks Wentz is a better QB?

I hope Dak plays awesome Sunday. But I think Tom Brady is a better QB. Does that I mean I support Brady over Dak?

 

[Sydla]

He was last Thursday night. That’s all that matters until they meet again.

The defense won that game Thursday.

Not Dak.

 

[keysersoze]

Is he “supporting” Wentz? Or just stating his opinion that he thinks Wentz is a better QB?

I hope Dak plays awesome Sunday. But I think Tom Brady is a better QB. Does that I mean I support Brady over Dak?

He’s supporting Wentz. Brady has won multiple Super Bowls. So he’s proven to be better. Wentz playing better for one out of 3 seasons proves nothing. The numbers don’t prove he’s better and neither does the win total. So no! It’s not an opinion it’s support and an agenda.

 

[keysersoze]

The defense won that game Thursday.

Not Dak.

Who played better? Dak or Brees?