Woodson on Dak’s Cowboys Contract: 'Pay the Man'

[Dre11]

Players are constantly developing. After the 2nd full year starting, the game should have slowed down for him and he should be showing a strong progression in his playing skills, instead he is showing signs of regressing. It's not going to be perfect, but it should be constantly improving. Unfortunately, it could be the Cowboys themselves holding the guy back.

You're right for most positions, qb isn't one of those, it's why it's the most busted position in the league. It's the hardest to learn even as a 1st round 1st overall pick, you're talking about a 4th round guy.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The passing game is a dud right now by primarily dropping Dak back into the pocket. He is not comfortable playing from there. They don't run enough RPOs. The running game is fine.

Hes not comfortable because the pocket crumbles.

 

[Runwildboys]

All qbs have warts even the great ones

But they don't set out to "cover them up". They try to fix them.

 

[JJHLH1]

Woodson is right.

 

[johneric8]

Here is the thing, Romo was absolutely hammered worse than Dad ever could of been. He was the laughingstock of the league in terms of choking! Now don't get me wrong, I loved romo he is a wonderful man and qb, but I like Dak even better for exactly what Woodson referenced.. Dak is a leader and has the grit to guide a team to a championship. I gotta say, that he is inspiring to me as a person and human and he has enough good makeup to get it done. His accuracy is off and on, but Romo would throw interceptions at the worst possible times. There stats after 3 years are almost identical as well, with the exception of Dak's interceptions being lower which is good.. I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but I love the guy and proud he is our qb. Guys with better arms and accuracy might be able to fit better into tight windows, but most of those guys can't put the team on their backs and run for Td's what seemingly looks like at will... There is good and bad in all qb's, but man, Dak is a special person with a will to win and have everyone else rise above their talent level. Lets also not forget we have some stubborn old school offensive coaches who don't tailor the game around his strengths! Also, "KELLEN MORE".. YIKES.

 

[nightrain]

Hes not comfortable because the pocket crumbles.

...and he knows not how to maneuver in the pocket.

 

[BoysForLife]

"We're going to be able to cover up those warts..." High praise indeed.

Seriously.

And also--gotta love Darren stating the mindset of a locker room he never stepped foot in.

We're supposed to believe that the guy who leads all time in franchise victories and 4th quarter comebacks and owns pretty much every passing record in franchise history (except interceptions) inspired *zero* confidence in the team.

But the closer is the best--Dak will be a Championship quarterback because he "has the intangibles". Yeah, he's not accurate. Yeah, he doesn't see the field well. But--the "intangibles". Those simply can't be measured, or overvalued.

I look at a list of guys who've won championships at the quarterback position in the last 15 years.
Both Mannings. Brady. Brees. Rodgers. Roethlisberger. Wilson. Flacco.

Hmmm..... I'm not thinking that's a list of guys who would be described as having a "lot of warts" that needed covering.

 

[BoysForLife]

Somebody has nudey pics Woody. He's making no sense lately. Gotta be a bribe.

Thinking same. I love Woodson and his reputation as a Cowboys player is absolutely top shelf.

But he's not making any sense lately. It's almost as if he's acting like Dak's pseudo agent, rather than an objective media personality.
Very puzzling. He can't possibly believe some of the things he's saying......

 

[Cowboysfandarin]

Here is the thing, Romo was absolutely hammered worse than Dad ever could of been. He was the laughingstock of the league in terms of choking! Now don't get me wrong, I loved romo he is a wonderful man and qb, but I like Dak even better for exactly what Woodson referenced.. Dak is a leader and has the grit to guide a team to a championship. I gotta say, that he is inspiring to me as a person and human and he has enough good makeup to get it done. His accuracy is off and on, but Romo would throw interceptions at the worst possible times. There stats after 3 years are almost identical as well, with the exception of Dak's interceptions being lower which is good.. I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but I love the guy and proud he is our qb. Guys with better arms and accuracy might be able to fit better into tight windows, but most of those guys can't put the team on their backs and run for Td's what seemingly looks like at will... There is good and bad in all qb's, but man, Dak is a special person with a will to win and have everyone else rise above their talent level. Lets also not forget we have some stubborn old school offensive coaches who don't tailor the game around his strengths! Also, "KELLEN MORE".. YIKES.

Drink much Kool aide?
I could write a book long response, but I'll save it. Watch some real football. Stop with the stats. Dak is lacking in basic fundamental skills sets a great QB needs to have.
Lacking areas:
1. Does not feel the pockets, always make the wrong repositioning choice
2. Panics once any pressure is felt and stops making reads, shift into instinct panic mode.
3. Cannot throw receivers open.
4. Cannot thread the needle.
5. The more open a receiver, is, the more he "thinks" about his throws and the less accurate he is.
6. He can only make 1-2 reads per play and they are slow reads.
7. He fails miserably to take that one of two key steps in the pocket to buy that extra 1-2 seconds. He just panics and flees. Defenses can easy scheme against him.

 

[nate dizzle]

You're right for most positions, qb isn't one of those, it's why it's the most busted position in the league. It's the hardest to learn even as a 1st round 1st overall pick, you're talking about a 4th round guy.

He may be a 4th round guy, but they are talking about paying him like a 1st, so that excuse rings hollow at this point.

 

[408Cowboy]

Woodson gets brought up in pro Romo posts as recognizing greatness and it's all good. Says pay Dak. Doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[BoysForLife]

He's dropping back because he has to, teams are making it a point to keep him in the pocket, at some point he'll have to throw from the pocket anyways to be successful.

Bingo.

NFL teams are good and talented enough to make you play to your weaknesses rather than your strengths.

I would bet every penny I have that opposing DC's coach their ends not to lose the edge and allow Dak to get outside the pocket
Will Dak make some plays here and there from the pocket? Sure, law of averages.
But keeping him there greatly minimizes his impact and he (so far) has not been able to overcome it.

If only those "intangibles" that Woodson is raving about, could make one able to efficiently progress through reads, or deliver a ball on time/on target.

Dang you, intangibles.

 

[Dre11]

But they don't set out to "cover them up". They try to fix them.

Lol...they do cover them up, they ask the player to do the things they do well, and try to keep them away from the things they don't do well, considering Dak is still developin, it's normal he'll have some warts.

 

[BoysForLife]

He may be a 4th round guy, but they are talking about paying him like a 1st, so that excuse rings hollow at this point.

Well said.

 

[408Cowboy]

But they don't set out to "cover them up". They try to fix them.

What do you think terms like Romo friendly and Dak friendly mean?

 

[johneric8]

Drink much Kool aide?
I could write a book long response, but I'll save it. Watch some real football. Stop with the stats. Dak is lacking in basic fundamental skills sets a great QB needs to have.
Lacking areas:
1. Does not feel the pockets, always make the wrong repositioning choice
2. Panics once any pressure is felt and stops making reads, shift into instinct panic mode.
3. Cannot throw receivers open.
4. Cannot thread the needle.
5. The more open a receiver, is, the more he "thinks" about his throws and the less accurate he is.
6. He can only make 1-2 reads per play and they are slow reads.
7. He fails miserably to take that one of two key steps in the pocket to buy that extra 1-2 seconds. He just panics and flees. Defenses can easy scheme against him.

Bro, did you watch Aikman when the pocket collapsed? Most of the time he went down like a ton of bricks.. I still say that the offensive line has been terrible and allowing guys on him too quickly.
You cannot throw open receivers with a line like we have right now. He threw receivers open his rookie year all the time because he had time.. I've seen him thread the needle, hence, look back to the oline.
I like Dak and believe he will progress as the team progress's... Peace

 

[CouchCoach]

...and he knows not how to maneuver in the pocket.

It seems that he freezes in the headlights because the D's don't leave him an out except back. Unless a QB is a quick release guy, these DC's study the tendencies, where is he at his worst and how do we get him there?

They used to do the same to Wilson until he became the best outside the pocket QB in the league but his accuracy is and always was much better than Dak's and that deep ball with the high trajectory is indefensible.

Whether to pay Dak or not depends on the level of importance one places on accuracy and that happens to be #1 for me, like hands for a receiver, but that's just me. Unlike Woodson seems to believe, inconsistent accuracy isn't a wart, it is a fatal flaw.

 

[CouchCoach]

Bro, did you watch Aikman when the pocket collapsed? Most of the time he went down like a ton of bricks.. I still say that the offensive line has been terrible and allowing guys on him too quickly.
You cannot throw open receivers with a line like we have right now. He threw receivers open his rookie year all the time because he had time.. I've seen him thread the needle, hence, look back to the oline.
I like Dak and believe he will progress as the team progress's... Peace

You have also seen him miss easy throws to open receivers. He is inconsistent.

 

[BoysForLife]

Here is the thing, Romo was absolutely hammered worse than Dad ever could of been. He was the laughingstock of the league in terms of choking! Now don't get me wrong, I loved romo he is a wonderful man and qb, but I like Dak even better for exactly what Woodson referenced.. Dak is a leader and has the grit to guide a team to a championship. I gotta say, that he is inspiring to me as a person and human and he has enough good makeup to get it done. His accuracy is off and on, but Romo would throw interceptions at the worst possible times. There stats after 3 years are almost identical as well, with the exception of Dak's interceptions being lower which is good.. I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but I love the guy and proud he is our qb. Guys with better arms and accuracy might be able to fit better into tight windows, but most of those guys can't put the team on their backs and run for Td's what seemingly looks like at will... There is good and bad in all qb's, but man, Dak is a special person with a will to win and have everyone else rise above their talent level. Lets also not forget we have some stubborn old school offensive coaches who don't tailor the game around his strengths! Also, "KELLEN MORE".. YIKES.

Exactly what evidence do you of Dak's superior leadership and grit, other than comments of people like Woodson?

Get back to me when Dak comes out of the locker room with broken ribs and a punctured lung and throws the game winning pass in overtime to Jessie freaking Holley, after changing the play sent in from the sidelines.

If people think Dak is a "leader" that's fine. I'm not sold but I understand opinions vary. That said, this droning mantra from Woodson and others that Dak is miles above Romo in terms of "desire" and "grit" and "leadership" is a heaping pile of bull-sh**. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Dre11]

He may be a 4th round guy, but they are talking about paying him like a 1st, so that excuse rings hollow at this point.

Who says pay him like a 1st rounder, you pay him his market rate/value for a starting qb.. That has nothing to do with a round he was selected for