Staubach: There’s accuracy issues but Dak’s gonna continue to be a great quarterback **merged**

[HungryLion]

No quarterback carries a team "all by himself." But there are quarterbacks who have more than enough ability to be that X factor who lifts a team.
Dak with his indecision and inaccuracy isn't one of those quarterbacks. And when that occurs, you need a complete team, a super team.
A super team makes a Trent Dilfer Super Bowl winning quarterback. A great quarterback makes a John Elway a Super Bowl participating team. A great team makes a greater John Elway a Super Bowl winning team.
Dak is more on the Dilfer side than the Elway side. That's why he needs a super team. Rogers was being honest. Dak is inaccurate. Dak needs to improve on his accuracy. If Dak remains Dak, he's going to need a super team.

There was also the implication in his comments, that Dak is a young QB and still improving...... imagine that.

 

[Vtwin]

Based on some fact. Heck hearing some of the people here comparing the decades lets you know how old they are, since they don't remember wideouts taking punishing hits when catching the ball.

The Lotts and Atwaters of those days would have the Beasleys, Amendolas, Welkers and Edelmans of these days hearing footsteps in their sleep.

 

[HungryLion]

We really need to get T shirts made.

As long as sleeves don’t cover up my “I heart Dak” tattoos. Then I am game.

 

[mattjames2010]

Dak's important stats are good compared to QBs that played in 2018 and the previous few years.

TDs stats don't correlate to much.

The goal is to win games and ultimately Super Bowls.

Aikman had 165 career TD passes in 165 starts and won 3 Super Bowls.

Dan Mario had 420 TD passes in 240 starts which on a per start basis is almost double Aikman's TD numbers. Mario won Zero Super Bowls.

2018 passing TDs:
Brady 29
Mahomes 50

Which one is playing in the Super Bowl?

TDs, in context, mean something - Zeke had 9 total TDs this year. When Aikman played, he had Smith who would score double digit TDs the teams prime.

Brady had 29 TDs? Yeah, it was a down year for him.

 

[xwalker]

TDs, in context, mean something - Zeke had 9 total TDs this year. When Aikman played, he had Smith who would score double digit TDs the teams prime.

Brady had 29 TDs? Yeah, it was a down year for him.

Brady has averaged 27 TDs per season...

 

[mattjames2010]

Brady has averaged 27 TDs per season...

LOL Since 2007, Brady has had only one season below 27 TD passes. Even in 2016 when he played only 12 games, he had 28 TD passes.

Either way, Staubach was talking about when Brady was young - Now who knows exactly what years he considers "young Brady" years - but I'll guess he's talking about Brady's first 3 seasons, where Brady, when you adjust the numbers, was still high in many categories compared to other QBs.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

LOL Since 2007, Brady has had only one season below 27 TD passes. Even in 2016 when he played only 12 games, he had 28 TD passes.

Either way, Staubach was talking about when Brady was young - Now who knows exactly what years he considers "young Brady" years - but I'll guess he's talking about Brady's first 3 seasons, where Brady, when you adjust the numbers, was still high in many categories compared to other QBs.

He is likely counting 2000 and 2008 in the calculation, even though Brady didn't throw more than 11 passes in either season. Using full seasons, Brady averages 30.4 TDs per season.

 

[Daktozekecoop]

Fact check: Roger net worth is about 600 million.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/nfl/roger-staubach-net-worth/

Well, good for him. Wikipedia states 6 million. I only checked because I did not think he was a billionaire as someone else stated.

 

[Qcard]

No quarterback carries a team "all by himself." But there are quarterbacks who have more than enough ability to be that X factor who lifts a team.
Dak with his indecision and inaccuracy isn't one of those quarterbacks. And when that occurs, you need a complete team, a super team.
A super team makes a Trent Dilfer Super Bowl winning quarterback. A great quarterback makes a John Elway a Super Bowl participating team. A great team makes a greater John Elway a Super Bowl winning team.
Dak is more on the Dilfer side than the Elway side. That's why he needs a super team. Rogers was being honest. Dak is inaccurate. Dak needs to improve on his accuracy. If Dak remains Dak, he's going to need a super team.

I always wish to catch these posts live..

I agree with the premise "No quarterback carries a team".
Dak is no way similar to Trent Dilfer..that is opinion not fact..per resume Dak is a more accomplished 3 year player. Dilfer was on a pathetic Buccaneers organization. So some how extrapolating Dak being no more than Dilfereqsque is not rooted in facts just opinion or person observation.
Dilfer was the 6th overall pick. He was an excellent Collegiate QB. His Tampa days somewhat rewrite how good he was with support...See Warrick Dunn and Alston in Dilfers 4th year (or 5th)..Dak walked into a very good Cowboys offense built for Romo.
Elway WAS NOT a great QB before that thorough bred in back field ran down the field and blew up a punt in a preseason game. In fact he was earlier perceived as a primadona (See Colts saga) and a choke artist...The Broncos weren't a great team. They had a A GREAT RB Terrell Davis..Elways greatness began after the helicopter spin lol

 

[erod]

Roger Staubach has never said anything negative about anyone.

Roger has also said that Romo was a better quarterback than he was.

 

[Qcard]

Roger Staubach has never said anything negative about anyone.

Roger has also said that Romo was a better quarterback than he was.

Yes he did but I remember it being in context of "Today's NFL". In Staubachs era the QB was also a ball carrier.
The forward pass revolution made Romo a better "QB" than Staubach

 

[Irvin88_4life]

missing the point jeez someone mentioned Dak had more of shot then Romo at the HOF and I said if you had to choose one you take the Cowboys all time leader in most passing categorys..IMO Dak will never get there as he doesnt put up even stats regardless of other accolades..

BTW it would be tough in any age for great QB to get any of those when you have to play in the same era as Peyton manning, Tom Brady, and Aaron rogers..those elite guys will get all the awards..

this argument was Dak vs Romo who gets it, its Romo hands down..

What you seem to not understand is you're making excuses why Romo was never MVP or won any other award. Not only that you are comparing Romo entire career to Dak who only has 3 years in the league. I'm taking Dak because he has way much more potential than Romo. Not only that but Dak is a threat running as well and Romo wasnt.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

lets be real here Romo started fulltime in 2006 retired in 2016 but missed nearly 3 entire seasons hurt, so he started nearly the entire seasons 8times, he has 248 Tds in 8 years thats nearly 30 a year to 117INts

so if you look at his career as 8 seasons these are more then impressive..
248 TDs INT 117 YDS 34,183 RTG 97.1

what do we gripe about here? needing more scores a few more TDs? this is what im talking about, Daks not that guy , not sure he will get there thats why I say hes just a better passer.Romos 2nd year as starter was 2007 he threw 36TDs he threw for over 4000yards 4 times once near 4500 and 2012 4903 he averaged 306 yards a game..

I didnt need these stats to tell me, my eyes remember, I like Dak im just saying as pure natural passer Romos better, right out of the box as an UDFA from small school..


http://www.nfl.com/player/tonyromo/2505354/careerstats

Haha you can't take games away and try and use his entire stats. Same thing with saying Romo in his second year threw 36 TDs when he had been in the league much longer than that. Romo developed into a passer but he went undrafted for a reason

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Haha you can't take games away and try and use his entire stats. Same thing with saying Romo in his second year threw 36 TDs when he had been in the league much longer than that. Romo developed into a passer but he went undrafted for a reason

He’s not taking games away, he’s omitting seasons that he didn’t play in, which you might have realized if you could read. And LOL at Dak having more potential than Romo. Dak is a dink and dunk QB who will be out of the league in a few seasons. He doesn’t have 1/10th of Romo’s ability.
I am so glad that Dak slobberers are finally out of time for using their embarrassingly stupid excuse that Romo had it better than Dak sitting on a bench doing nothing instead of actually playing in games like Dak. Dak will be in his 4th year now (same as when Romo first played) so the excuses should be comical to hear when the offense is once again stuck in the mud in 2019.

 

[Diehardblues]

Based on the first 6-7 games of 2017, I believe so.

I was right about Romo after he pulled that Cabo crap during the 2007 playoffs! I told you guys then Romo showed he simply didn't get IT, especially with his inexcusably lame response about not worrying about "perception". Even Troy came out and bashed him for it. That should have shown you Romosexuals how much of a mental midget Romo truly was and was going to be. The guy went Hollywood. He craved the limelight much more than he did wanting to reach a Super Bowl, and the results proved that. I told you back then after that 2007 fiasco that he didn't have what it takes to ever take the Cowboys to a Super Bowl, no matter how talented of a passer he was, and time proved that to be true. For that, you hate me because you simply didn't see the signs? lol. Remember, I told you so. The signs were there. You refused to see or accept them. Not my problem you were wrong.

At least you admit Romo is a more talented passer. That’s all my issue is about.

 

[tyke1doe]

There was also the implication in his comments, that Dak is a young QB and still improving...... imagine that.

He's going to give Dak the benefit of the doubt. When have you ever heard Staubach criticize a Cowboys player?

 

[tyke1doe]

I always wish to catch these posts live..

I agree with the premise "No quarterback carries a team".
Dak is no way similar to Trent Dilfer..that is opinion not fact..per resume Dak is a more accomplished 3 year player. Dilfer was on a pathetic Buccaneers organization. So some how extrapolating Dak being no more than Dilfereqsque is not rooted in facts just opinion or person observation.
Dilfer was the 6th overall pick. He was an excellent Collegiate QB. His Tampa days somewhat rewrite how good he was with support...See Warrick Dunn and Alston in Dilfers 4th year (or 5th)..Dak walked into a very good Cowboys offense built for Romo.
Elway WAS NOT a great QB before that thorough bred in back field ran down the field and blew up a punt in a preseason game. In fact he was earlier perceived as a primadona (See Colts saga) and a choke artist...The Broncos weren't a great team. They had a A GREAT RB Terrell Davis..Elways greatness began after the helicopter spin lol

I said Dak was more on the Dilfer side than the Elway side.
Second, yes Elway WAS a great quarterback before Terrell Davis. Elway was the main reason why the Broncos got to the Super Bowl thrice, getting trounced each time.
Everyone who remembers that era understands that Denver's defense was undermanned. That's why the Giants pushed them around the field, why the Commanders scored 35 on them in the second quarter and why the 49ers put the most points on them in Super Bowl history.
Elway's greatness began after the helicopter spin. Indeed.

P.S. What does the Colts saga have anything to do with Elway's greatness. As the kids say, "Child, please."

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Roger is the 2nd best QBs in cowboys history after aikman.

He’s never said anything like this about romo. It speaks volumes to the testmenat of how much elite potential Dak has. Their is a reason he compared him to Tom Brady.

Here for your reading and listening entertainment, just a few of the many many positive things Roger said about Tony


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cky-to-have-tony-romo/?utm_term=.1e136091997b
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti...to_glory_days_with_tony_romo/s1_9352_18848267

 

[Willfreedom909]

Here for your reading and listening entertainment, just a few of many many positive things Roger said about Tony


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cky-to-have-tony-romo/?utm_term=.1e136091997b
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti...to_glory_days_with_tony_romo/s1_9352_18848267

He likely wasn’t taking dementia meds then

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

He likely wasn’t taking dementia meds then

Maybe you should send him some of yours, at least Roger spent 15 years taking hits to his head. What's your excuse?