A movie franchise rescue?

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Wait. Have you never seen Halle Berry as Catwoman?....That's almost unAmerican!

I have not.
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Ooh! Thanks!
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Yeah, I've never seen either, but I'd now watch Catwoman first!
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Let us know what you think about Catwoman. Fair-to-poor movie plot and acting but Berry's Catwoman scenes make it a watchable movie.

The FF reboot? No. I will not recommend it for anyone. Gave it a 4.0 out of 10.0 at the time. That movie ended up way way way way way way way way and way off in left field. :rolleyes::(
 

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Glad there are people believing a Billy Batson movie has a promising future. I am still pessimistic about the idea and the first trailer I have seen did not make me optimistic about its possible box office appeal. Then again, the movie may put my impressions in their proper place. If so, I will not complain. ;)

I think, from the trailer, that they took a page out of the Marvel playbook and lightened the tone significantly, injecting less forced humor as well. Whether it succeeds or not, I think it'll be vastly more entertaining than any DC Shared Cinematic Universe produced so far.
 

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That Seth Rogan "Green Hornet" was the worst. That movie has not been shown on HBO,Cinemax,Showtime,FX,etc. because it was that bad. Rogan made a travesty out of The Green Hornet & Kato.
 

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That Seth Rogan "Green Hornet" was the worst. That movie has not been shown on HBO,Cinemax,Showtime,FX,etc. because it was that bad. Rogan made a travesty out of The Green Hornet & Kato.

Yeah, I saw part of it. It was terrible.
 

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I think, from the trailer, that they took a page out of the Marvel playbook and lightened the tone significantly, injecting less forced humor as well. Whether it succeeds or not, I think it'll be vastly more entertaining than any DC Shared Cinematic Universe produced so far.

If you've ever seen the Tom Hanks film "Big", that's what you're getting, except with special effects and a cape. I don't expect it to bomb, but I don't expect it to make a billion dollars either. I can see it being a modest success, which will still be a win for D.C. at the box office.
 

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I'm not sure that train wreck could be saved. lol

I think they've bounced back some. Aquaman has been a huge hit for them. I don't think it's any coincidence that the less Zack Snyder is involved, the better the results.
 

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If you've ever seen the Tom Hanks film "Big", that's what you're getting, except with special effects and a cape. I don't expect it to bomb, but I don't expect it to make a billion dollars either. I don't expect it to bomb, but I don't expect it to make a billion dollars either. I can see it being a modest success, which will still be a win for D.C. at the box office.
Bold> That is my expectation as well, although much of my anticipation is not associated with box office. There is no denying the similarity between the Captain Marvel Shazam/Billy Batson story and Big movie concepts. I just do not think a blending of the two is necessary. I think it is a directed attempt to 'dumb down' the actual basis of the character for the broader general audience to understand and accept.

For me, it is like... they are wanting to capture the Deadpool lightning in a bottle--no pun intended about the lightning. If true, the underlying problem is that Deadpool was a practically a 100% match between fictional character and real life adaptation. Deadpool was not an morphed presentation of his comic. That movie was a reflection of how the character was depicted on paper.

The Shazam trailer had the same feel as Big. Maybe it is simply my anxiety influencing my perception. I want the movie to be successful. lol. I want ALL of them to be great but I also want them to be true to themselves also.
 

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I think they've bounced back some. Aquaman has been a huge hit for them. I don't think it's any coincidence that the less Zack Snyder is involved, the better the results.


Something about that Aquaman movie that just left nothing memorable.

The costumes looked right out of 1990’s (Mera and Queen specifically).

I like Marvel and DC pretty much equally.
I really wish the Marvel directing, story, editing crew etc. had both DC and Marvel franchises.
 

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Bold> That is my expectation as well, although much of my anticipation is not associated with box office. There is no denying the similarity between the Captain Marvel Shazam/Billy Batson story and Big movie concepts. I just do not think a blending of the two is necessary. I think it is a directed attempt to 'dumb down' the actual basis of the character for the broader general audience to understand and accept.

They're certainly going for a wider appeal, which I think is actually the smart play, given that they're using this particular character. After all, trying to play it straight with Ryan Reynolds as Green Lenten sure blew up in their faces.

For me, it is like... they are wanting to capture the Deadpool lightning in a bottle--no pun intended about the lightning. If true, the underlying problem is that Deadpool was a practically a 100% match between fictional character and real life adaptation. Deadpool was not an morphed presentation of his comic. That movie was a reflection of how the character was depicted on paper.

With the right guy in the right role. Unlike Reynolds as GL as I mentioned above. You have to match the actor to the role. And if you're going for a bit of goofiness and camp, the guy who played Chuck on TV fits that bill.

The Shazam trailer had the same feel as Big. Maybe it is simply my anxiety influencing my perception. I want the movie to be successful. lol. I want ALL of them to be great but I also want them to be true to themselves also.

I know what you mean, but sometimes change is inevitable. As the world changes, so does what we're willing to accept. Let's face it, not everything Lee and Kirby came up with was gold either and much of it has been tweaked along the way to avoid either silliness, or outright sexism and racism. Times change, and ideas and characters have to change with them.

But yeah, too much change and you lose the heart of what you started with in the first place, much like the Ghostbusters remake at the start of this conversation, and the Trank FF debacle. Hopefully, Shazam strikes a better balance. I love superheroes and I loved Big.
 

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Something about that Aquaman movie that just left nothing memorable.

The costumes looked right out of 1990’s (Mera and Queen specifically).

I like Marvel and DC pretty much equally.
I really wish the Marvel directing, story, editing crew etc. had both DC and Marvel franchises.

I can understand that. Aquaman wasn't perfect. But I felt that compared to Snyder's dark and dreary mess? It was a huge improvement. And it opened up another fantastic world for adventures right here on Earth.

I was very pleasantly surprised and impressed overall.
 

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I think, from the trailer, that they took a page out of the Marvel playbook and lightened the tone significantly, injecting less forced humor as well. Whether it succeeds or not, I think it'll be vastly more entertaining than any DC Shared Cinematic Universe produced so far.
We will see about the entertainment quality. I know 'the move tone issue' turns off some audience members. It does not for me necessarily. I take any movie of any genre as they come.

For the DCEU, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice had a dark tone but it is how the plot was directed is what somewhat turned me off. Conservely, Man Of Steel had the dreaded dark tone also but I was very entertained. Justice League was about 25% whimsical in a slight 1970's Superfriends kind of way but it was just a movie that fell far short of its Avengers-like aspirations.

Suicide Squad
could have had a lighter tone about super criminals coerced into doing the exact opposite of what they want but that would be a complete departure from the comic title. I am certain I found SS more entertaining than what some of the audience wanted it to be. Wonder Woman had the right mix of tone, similar to Captain America: The First Averger in my opinion, but it was just a movie most of the audience could not apply personal faults onto it. And Aquaman made me flat out exhale. Good all-around movie whose tone was not dark and thankfully did not depress anyone (or most ai would hope).

Shazam is about to ratch up things for DC/Warner Bros. Flashpoint, Joker and Wonder Woman are coming up before the end of next year. Here's hoping they all entertain as much of the audience as possible.
 

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If you've ever seen the Tom Hanks film "Big", that's what you're getting, except with special effects and a cape. I don't expect it to bomb, but I don't expect it to make a billion dollars either. I can see it being a modest success, which will still be a win for D.C. at the box office.
Big was my first thought when seeing the trailer as well, but hopefully they expand the story beyond just being about the typical body switch.
 

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They're certainly going for a wider appeal, which I think is actually the smart play, given that they're using this particular character. After all, trying to play it straight with Ryan Reynolds as Green Lenten sure blew up in their faces.
There was a LOT wrong with Green Lantern in addition to Ryan Reynolds playing Hal Jordan but I will admit (as I have always said) that Reynolds should have played Jordan strictly in the dramatical sense. Too many Van Wilder-like tidbits intentionally allowed into the movie.
 
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