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I remember something Troy said on his Ticket show this year. The hosts asked about Dak seeming to be overly cautious and what the team could do about it, and Troy said after a couple of years, when the QB knows the offense well, then it's all about the QB's personality. Said you can have two QBs with the same coaching and same play and they'd play it two different ways depending on the QB's mentality. Dak seems to be the natural game manager type who hates mistakes ("Mom hated interceptions" etc) and I doubt that changes unless you can scheme WRs *wide* open deep.
 

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I remember something Troy said on his Ticket show this year. The hosts asked about Dak seeming to be overly cautious and what the team could do about it, and Troy said after a couple of years, when the QB knows the offense well, then it's all about the QB's personality. Said you can have two QBs with the same coaching and same play and they'd play it two different ways depending on the QB's mentality. Dak seems to be the natural game manager type who hates mistakes ("Mom hated interceptions" etc) and I doubt that changes unless you can scheme WRs *wide* open deep.

I think Dak's brand of football would be fine if he just used those legs more.

That is his greatest attribute physically. He can move.

But he's constantly stuck in the pocket.

I don't know how many times this year he could've ran for a 1st and he threw the ball so it doesn't just need to come from the coaching.

But sitting in the pocket and taking sacks is something any QB can do so there is no point of having a mobile QB if he's a statue.

A Shannahan type of offense would be perfect for him.
 

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I think Dak's brand of football would be fine if he just used those legs more.
That's my single biggest frustration with the offense. He should be used like Russell Wilson is, or was, to run for 7-8 yards and convert first downs. I have no idea why they don't do that more. I suspect the front office is overjoyed at having a decent QB and is terrified of him getting hurt.
 

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This is one of those worm holes.

DAL sunk a fortune into the OL and Zeke and wanted to run the ball.
Forgoing that they'd have frankly looked stupid.

All evidence points to passing efficiency as the way to win in the NFL. This is largely because passing results in big chunks that lead to points and 3rd downs being passing downs 80% of the time.

EXCEPT from the divisional round on the team that ran the ball more effectively won every game.
 

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I said in another thread, look for Moore to be bold and aggressive consistently trying to push the ball downfield. I'd be shocked if we don't see an increase in 20+ yards plays.


Percentage of team's pass attempts that gained 20+ yards

4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
Rams 11.9%
Chiefs 11.6%
Cowboys 11.4%
Saints 8.9%

All other situations
Chiefs 13.3%
Rams 12.2%
Saints 11.8%
Cowboys 6.5%
 

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I said in another thread, look for Moore to be bold and aggressive consistently trying to push the ball downfield. I'd be shocked if we don't see an increase in 20+ yards plays.


I am not surprised. the game plan for dallas for wins was always, keep the game close. minimize mistakes and cash in opprotunities in the 4th quarter. running the ball a lot in the first half was part of the plan to manage TOP and tire out the Defensive team per se..... we just didn't have the fire power to get in a shooting match......

and this doesn't mean Linehan's game planning or play calling was any good.
 

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I am not surprised. the game plan for dallas for wins was always, keep the game close. minimize mistakes and cash in opprotunities in the 4th quarter. running the ball a lot in the first half was part of the plan to manage TOP and tire out the Defensive team per se..... we just didn't have the fire power to get in a shooting match......

and this doesn't mean Linehan's game planning or play calling was any good.

I don't know if this is true but in too many games it certainly looked like the Cowboys would be aggressive/creative for a drive or two and score a touchdown, then come out stale for the rest of the first half. :huh:
 

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I said in another thread, look for Moore to be bold and aggressive consistently trying to push the ball downfield. I'd be shocked if we don't see an increase in 20+ yards plays.



My interpretation of these numbers is this:

It is yet another indicator of an offensive coach who has no feel whatsoever for the running game. And it comes as no surprise to me, considering Linehan's pass-happy track record. Combine that with Garrett's own background, as a coach who himself abandoned the run and ran the ball far too rarely, and you have a bad combination. Remember Garrett's struggles from the very beginning, where he had "helpers" and run-game coordinators nursing him through that side of the ball, names like Tony Sparano (RIP coach), Bill Callahan, and even Dan Reeves. His struggles are well-documented in that area.

What I saw was a coach who said "OK, you want me to 'establish the run'? Here it is, we'll run on first down." And if we didn't get over 7 yards then? "Well, we've got to pass it now!" As well as the clear tendency to view third down as a "must pass" down.

My hope is that Kellen Moore calls a different game, and one that more resembled the balance his teams at Boise had. If not? We're still screwed.
 

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Dak seems to be the natural game manager type who hates mistakes ("Mom hated interceptions" etc) and I doubt that changes unless you can scheme WRs *wide* open deep.
Or unless it's late in a close game, when he becomes much more aggressive.

Prescott's 15+ yard targets as a percentage of total attempts
4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
25.7% 26 of 101

all other situations
14.1% 83 of 589

15+ yard targets as a percentage of total attempts
4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
Prescott 25.7%
Mahomes 23.8%
Brees 23.2%
Goff 20.2%
 

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Or unless it's late in a close game, when he becomes much more aggressive.

Prescott's 15+ yard targets as a percentage of total attempts
4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
25.7% 26 of 101

all other situations
14.1% 83 of 589

15+ yard targets as a percentage of total attempts
4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
Prescott 25.7%
Mahomes 23.8%
Brees 23.2%
Goff 20.2%


That shows there exists an upside that just isn't being demonstrated enough throughout a game.
 

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I think Dak's brand of football would be fine if he just used those legs more.

That is his greatest attribute physically. He can move.

But he's constantly stuck in the pocket.

I don't know how many times this year he could've ran for a 1st and he threw the ball so it doesn't just need to come from the coaching.

But sitting in the pocket and taking sacks is something any QB can do so there is no point of having a mobile QB if he's a statue.

A Shannahan type of offense would be perfect for him.
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Mahomes
Luck
Foles
Goff
Dak

Those were the final quarterbacks left this year.

Only pocket passers win in the NFL unless you have the best defense in football.
 
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Brady
Brees
Rivers
Mahomes
Luck
Foles
Goff
Dak

Those were the final quarterbacks left this year.

Only pocket passers win in the NFL unless you have the best defense in football.

But Mahomes and Luck can move.

Dak has the ability to move as well.

He can play from the pocket but his problem is he is stuck in the pocket when he should be moving much more then he does. Extending plays and such.
 

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It's like Sturm tweeted in the OP.

This needs to improve as well:

Here’s the final point. Michael Gallup has many intriguing attributes both the Dallas Cowboys and their fanbase hope will develop into a more consistent, reliable option in 2019. But make no mistake, Gallup had a rough rookie season and should not be a lock for the starting role. He still has a lot to prove … as most second-year players do.

https://thelandryhat.com/2019/02/11/dallas-cowboys-michael-gallups-worse-think/3/
 
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