Interesting stat from AdamJT13

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  1. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    I said in another thread, look for Moore to be bold and aggressive consistently trying to push the ball downfield. I'd be shocked if we don't see an increase in 20+ yards plays.

     
  2. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    Moore is a creative dude. Not sure how it'll pan out, but I'm intrigued.
     
  3. KingintheNorth

    KingintheNorth Chris in Arizona

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    How do you know this?

    I mean, he may be. But why do you state this as some sort of fact?
     
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  4. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    I remember something Troy said on his Ticket show this year. The hosts asked about Dak seeming to be overly cautious and what the team could do about it, and Troy said after a couple of years, when the QB knows the offense well, then it's all about the QB's personality. Said you can have two QBs with the same coaching and same play and they'd play it two different ways depending on the QB's mentality. Dak seems to be the natural game manager type who hates mistakes ("Mom hated interceptions" etc) and I doubt that changes unless you can scheme WRs *wide* open deep.
     
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  5. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    I think Dak's brand of football would be fine if he just used those legs more.

    That is his greatest attribute physically. He can move.

    But he's constantly stuck in the pocket.

    I don't know how many times this year he could've ran for a 1st and he threw the ball so it doesn't just need to come from the coaching.

    But sitting in the pocket and taking sacks is something any QB can do so there is no point of having a mobile QB if he's a statue.

    A Shannahan type of offense would be perfect for him.
     
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  6. Whyjerry

    Whyjerry Well-Known Member

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    Garrett is a mystery. Many, many people see the issues yet Jerry loves the guy.
     
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  7. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    That's my single biggest frustration with the offense. He should be used like Russell Wilson is, or was, to run for 7-8 yards and convert first downs. I have no idea why they don't do that more. I suspect the front office is overjoyed at having a decent QB and is terrified of him getting hurt.
     
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  8. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    This is one of those worm holes.

    DAL sunk a fortune into the OL and Zeke and wanted to run the ball.
    Forgoing that they'd have frankly looked stupid.

    All evidence points to passing efficiency as the way to win in the NFL. This is largely because passing results in big chunks that lead to points and 3rd downs being passing downs 80% of the time.

    EXCEPT from the divisional round on the team that ran the ball more effectively won every game.
     
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  9. percyhoward

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    Percentage of team's pass attempts that gained 20+ yards

    4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
    Rams 11.9%
    Chiefs 11.6%
    Cowboys 11.4%
    Saints 8.9%

    All other situations
    Chiefs 13.3%
    Rams 12.2%
    Saints 11.8%
    Cowboys 6.5%
     
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  10. CowboysFaninHouston

    CowboysFaninHouston CowboysFaninDC

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    I am not surprised. the game plan for dallas for wins was always, keep the game close. minimize mistakes and cash in opprotunities in the 4th quarter. running the ball a lot in the first half was part of the plan to manage TOP and tire out the Defensive team per se..... we just didn't have the fire power to get in a shooting match......

    and this doesn't mean Linehan's game planning or play calling was any good.
     
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  11. Eanwen

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    I don't know if this is true but in too many games it certainly looked like the Cowboys would be aggressive/creative for a drive or two and score a touchdown, then come out stale for the rest of the first half. :huh:
     
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  12. stasheroo

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    My interpretation of these numbers is this:

    It is yet another indicator of an offensive coach who has no feel whatsoever for the running game. And it comes as no surprise to me, considering Linehan's pass-happy track record. Combine that with Garrett's own background, as a coach who himself abandoned the run and ran the ball far too rarely, and you have a bad combination. Remember Garrett's struggles from the very beginning, where he had "helpers" and run-game coordinators nursing him through that side of the ball, names like Tony Sparano (RIP coach), Bill Callahan, and even Dan Reeves. His struggles are well-documented in that area.

    What I saw was a coach who said "OK, you want me to 'establish the run'? Here it is, we'll run on first down." And if we didn't get over 7 yards then? "Well, we've got to pass it now!" As well as the clear tendency to view third down as a "must pass" down.

    My hope is that Kellen Moore calls a different game, and one that more resembled the balance his teams at Boise had. If not? We're still screwed.
     
  13. morat1959

    morat1959 Well-Known Member

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    Because they drink the koolaid EVERY year!
     
  14. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Or unless it's late in a close game, when he becomes much more aggressive.

    Prescott's 15+ yard targets as a percentage of total attempts
    4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
    25.7% 26 of 101

    all other situations
    14.1% 83 of 589

    15+ yard targets as a percentage of total attempts
    4th qtr/OT margin 8 points or less
    Prescott 25.7%
    Mahomes 23.8%
    Brees 23.2%
    Goff 20.2%
     
  15. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    That shows there exists an upside that just isn't being demonstrated enough throughout a game.
     
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  16. Kolemmitt

    Kolemmitt Well-Known Member

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    A LOT of good information on Adam's twitter feed.
     
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  17. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    It's like Sturm tweeted in the OP.
     
  18. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Brady
    Brees
    Rivers
    Mahomes
    Luck
    Foles
    Goff
    Dak

    Those were the final quarterbacks left this year.

    Only pocket passers win in the NFL unless you have the best defense in football.
     
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  19. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    But Mahomes and Luck can move.

    Dak has the ability to move as well.

    He can play from the pocket but his problem is he is stuck in the pocket when he should be moving much more then he does. Extending plays and such.
     
  20. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    This needs to improve as well:

    Here’s the final point. Michael Gallup has many intriguing attributes both the Dallas Cowboys and their fanbase hope will develop into a more consistent, reliable option in 2019. But make no mistake, Gallup had a rough rookie season and should not be a lock for the starting role. He still has a lot to prove … as most second-year players do.

    https://thelandryhat.com/2019/02/11/dallas-cowboys-michael-gallups-worse-think/3/
     
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