Opinion: Dak will Make Over 25M

[Mobinvans]

While I agree the market dictates him getting about 26-28

I would would kick him to the curb and get a 3 million QB with the same production

 

[Flamma]

Again the market for elite QBs is set at 30m+. It changes as the qbs sign new deals and the cap goes up. 8 years ago it was 20m. 8 years from now it will be 40m+. Just how it works. If Wilson, Ben, mahomes, luck, rivers , Stafford, cam, and even Goff, signed a new contract today they would all get 30m+.

Yes they would, I agree. All teams that don't need Dak Prescott and wouldn't offer him anything. That goes for most teams in this league at this moment. And that's besides the point Dak isn't elite. If there's not a big market for starting QBs then the chances of a slightly above average QB getting a contract for 25M-30M is slim.

If Dallas put Prescott on the Transition tag, give me three teams that might offer him a 28M a year deal. I'll be waiting. Then even if one does we could always match it. But it makes absolutely no sense paying him that right now. Find out what's he worth with the tag. It's a win win.

 

[Falco78]

You know how many sacks that idiot took in the Redzone?

OC has a ton to do with that

 

[Falco78]

I would would kick him to the curb and get a 3 million QB with the same production

You won't get that though ut of that price range. Be reasonable....

 

[Little Jr]

Yes they would, I agree. All teams that don't need Dak Prescott and wouldn't offer him anything. That goes for most teams in this league at this moment. And that's besides the point Dak isn't elite. If there's not a big market for starting QBs then the chances of a slightly above average QB getting a contract for 25M-30M is slim.

If Dallas put Prescott on the Transition tag, give me three teams that might offer him a 28M a year deal. I'll be waiting. Then even if one does we could always match it. But it makes absolutely no sense paying him that right now. Find out what's he worth with the tag. It's a win win.

Mia, wash, Denver, jags.

 

[Sandyf]

Prescott has led the Cowboys to 32 regular-season victories in his first three seasons. Only four quarterbacks in league history have done better.

The 14 game-winning drives engineered by Prescott in his first three seasons is a number that's not been topped. His 24 games with a quarterback rating of at least 100 ties the NFL record. He's the only quarterback to throw for at least 20 touchdowns and run for five other scores in each of his first three seasons.

This is why Jerry is going to pay him closer to $30 million a year average than $25 million a year average, like it or not.

 

[Flamma]

Prescott has led the Cowboys to 32 regular-season victories in his first three seasons. Only four quarterbacks in league history have done better.

The 14 game-winning drives engineered by Prescott in his first three seasons is a number that's not been topped. His 24 games with a quarterback rating of at least 100 ties the NFL record. He's the only quarterback to throw for at least 20 touchdowns and run for five other scores in each of his first three seasons.

This is why Jerry is going to pay him closer to $30 million a year average than $25 million a year average, like it or not.

Look, I have no control over Jerry's drunken antics. People do some crazy things and make ill purchases when under the influence, so yeah, you may be right. But again, what NFL teams are offering Dak huge money if the Cowboys don't? And if they did, how much do you think the offer would be?

 

[SoupcanSam]

While I agree the market dictates him getting about 26-28

Market Smarket.

They both can be idiots sometime.

 

[zenmastersauce]

Look, I have no control over Jerry's drunken antics. People do some crazy things and make ill purchases when under the influence, so yeah, you may be right. But again, what NFL teams are offering Dak huge money if the Cowboys don't? And if they did, how much do you think the offer would be?

It would be idiotic to "try the market" like so many other teams who are looking for QBs that have done half of what he has done so far. That would be a worse decision but arm chairs tend to think differently.

 

[gjkoeppen]

IPersonally I think dak should get 25m and he'll at least get that. That would put him at 13.2% of the cap. That's right where Alex Smith is at. At 28m he would be 14.8m that would still put him under Rodgers at 18.6, Ryan at 16.9, cousin's at 15.8, Stafford at 16.1, Ben at 15.2. It would put him with rivers and cam at 14.4 and 14.5.

He should get 25m a year , might get 28m and could get over 28m but even being a dak fan that would be too much. With all that said, I care more about the gutanteee than the avg annual. That's more for thhr agent and player and for fans like us to debate. Lol

What you said about the CBA ending after the 2020 season is true that it probably will affect contracts, but what you've missed in your reasoning that Rodgers, Ryan, Ben, Wilson, none of them got their big contracts coming off their rookie deals. The only one that got big was Cousins and that was ONLY because the skins were so dumb to tag him 2 years in a row which was the primary single biggest reason he got the contract he did from the vikings. Very very very few QB's get monster contracts coming off their rookie contracts and Prescott at this time is not one that will get a monster contract extension. As Prescott has already publicly said, whatever deal we make will be fair for all.

Lastly there has already been one owner who has raised the question on how long can the league continue to flourish if they continue to allocate so much money to just one position. They started a "rookie cap" a few years ago as a means to make sure that more of the vet players with 4 and 5 years get more money. Well now with the QB position taking up so much money like the rookies did before their cap, those same players the rookie cap was supposed to help are again getting strangled out. So one owner has publicly said this and how many do you think have said this privately? They are seeing that these monster contracts for QB's is hurting the league. Now they can't just all agree to stop it because then they could be hit with another collusion law suite but they can decide individually to stop the trend. My guess and again it's only a guess it will happen when this CBA expires so they can use that as justification.
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[TheStarInFLA]

Market Smarket.

They both can be idiots sometime.

What I don’t understand is Dak (or someone parental or pastoral in his life who is wise advising him to) turning around and saying that he will take $15 million. he would be an instant hero. It’s a win win. He’s NOT an elite QB so this will allow the team to spend on top talent around him. Dak can continue to play the way he has and no one will blame him. He can be the Black Danny White and would still have respect at the end of his career. Oh and he would never have to buy a meal in Dallas ever again.

 

[gjkoeppen]

It would be idiotic to "try the market" like so many other teams who are looking for QBs that have done half of what he has done so far. That would be a worse decision but arm chairs tend to think differently.

I like Prescott but the truth is he got the offensive rookie of the year but the Cowboys had a great offensive line then and many think Elliott should have gotten that award. He had the proverbial sophomore slump but then the team as a whole had a lot of that same slump. Last year he did play better and the team as a whole played better especially the defense until they fell apart in the playoffs against the rams. The point here is unlike those here that think this or that, me included, the other 31 GM's have seen the same things and I don't think they have Prescott rated as a have to go get if he were able to test the free agent market which I seriously doubt the Cowboys are going to do. If he hit the market I'm sure there may be a couple of offers but they're not going to be the huge mega bucks deal many here are saying Prescott will get either from the Cowboys or any other team. GM's look at EVERYTHING and make offers based on EVERYTHING. The Cowboys have won a single playoff game with Prescott. Prescott took a lot of sacks last year. Now that was a combination of line play and holding the ball to long sometimes, but again the other 31 GM's saw that and that's not the type of thing that will cause them to roll out the huge bucks. He's shown promise but hasn't yet proved he's that elite type of QB and any offers would reflect that.
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[doomsday9084]

There are two prices:
- The amount of money that you could give to Dak and still be able to build a title contender
- The amount of money Dak will actually get based on the market

With truly elite quarterbacks, those prices are pretty close. With Dak, there is a massive disparity between those two numbers. Depending on how its structured, Dak's contract could be franchise crippling.

Quite frankly, I would rather see Dallas just give up, tank and try to draft a franchise quarterback rather than waste 4 years trying to shoehorn in a contending team around a $30m per year Dak Prescott.

 

[Afigueroa22]

You are late. Everyone on here knows I didnt care for Romo. Talk about overrated.

The same stats people point to when praising Dak, Romo has surpassed. If Romo is overrated then what is Dak bud?

 

[SoupcanSam]

The same stats people point to when praising Dak, Romo has surpassed. If Romo is overrated then what is Dak bud?

Equally overrated. Two peas in a pod

 

[Afigueroa22]

Equally overrated. Two peas in a pod

Haha thank you for being consistent, most around here can't even do that.

 

[Flamma]

It would be idiotic to "try the market" like so many other teams who are looking for QBs that have done half of what he has done so far. That would be a worse decision but arm chairs tend to think differently.

First of all, "so many other teams" are NOT looking for QBs. I keep having to repeat this. It's as if the market itself is a team and Dak will find 28m under his pillow. Why would a transition tag be idiotic?

 

[zenmastersauce]

I like Prescott but the truth is he got the offensive rookie of the year but the Cowboys had a great offensive line then and many think Elliott should have gotten that award. He had the proverbial sophomore slump but then the team as a whole had a lot of that same slump. Last year he did play better and the team as a whole played better especially the defense until they fell apart in the playoffs against the rams. The point here is unlike those here that think this or that, me included, the other 31 GM's have seen the same things and I don't think they have Prescott rated as a have to go get if he were able to test the free agent market which I seriously doubt the Cowboys are going to do. If he hit the market I'm sure there may be a couple of offers but they're not going to be the huge mega bucks deal many here are saying Prescott will get either from the Cowboys or any other team. GM's look at EVERYTHING and make offers based on EVERYTHING. The Cowboys have won a single playoff game with Prescott. Prescott took a lot of sacks last year. Now that was a combination of line play and holding the ball to long sometimes, but again the other 31 GM's saw that and that's not the type of thing that will cause them to roll out the huge bucks. He's shown promise but hasn't yet proved he's that elite type of QB and any offers would reflect that.
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But again as I say, its all arm chair ideas here not fact. No one here knows just how much Prescott would or would not be valued on the market. But one thing is clear, if the Cowboys want to try and go back to the QB lottery somehow believing the situation will improve could be more of a mistake than we realize. We may be able to at least buy talent but that doesnt mean chemistry enough to get you a win.

 

[zenmastersauce]

First of all, "so many other teams" are NOT looking for QBs. I keep having to repeat this. It's as if the market itself is a team and Dak will find 28m under his pillow. Why would a transition tag be idiotic?

There are a number of teams looking to upgrade in QB, Jags and Niners are probably tops on that list. And beyond that having solid backups are also in need in case your main guy goes down. This entire situation is made worse by all the hypothetical numbers that are being thrown out on how much he would get and how much it would cripple the teams capability to win. If we are trying to win now as Jerry indicates, give the guy the extension he earned and keep it moving.

 

[Flamma]

There are a number of teams looking to upgrade in QB, Jags and Niners are probably tops on that list. And beyond that having solid backups are also in need in case your main guy goes down. This entire situation is made worse by all the hypothetical numbers that are being thrown out on how much he would get and how much it would cripple the teams capability to win. If we are trying to win now as Jerry indicates, give the guy the extension he earned and keep it moving.

That number is very small and no teams give backup QBs 20+ Mil a year contracts.

Ok here goes. Bengals, Jaguars, Dolphins, and Giants. With an outside but doubtful chance of Denver. These are the teams in the market for a starting QB.

Knock off the Jaguars as they are signing Nick Foles.
The Broncos will probably roll with Flacco.

That leaves the Giants, Bengals and Dolphins who will probably get their QB in the draft. Who is left to pay Dak Prescott 28 Million a year if Dallas doesn't? I understand market value for a QB at this moment, but right now the market isn't there. The Cowboys organization can't possibly be that stupid to not see this situation. Transition tag him and match any offer. It's that simple.