Dak’s dog could receive death penalty

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I love dogs. so this whole incident seems so tragic to me. but at the end of the day, animals are animals and need to be controlled. Siegfried and roy still defend the tiger that almost ripped roy's throat out. the guy that trained the grizzly so often seen in the movies watched in horror as it killed his brother while supposedly playing. you can't blame the animal for acting out what millions of years of evolution has engrained into its brain.
You can blame the owners and should blame the owners. Pit Bulls instinctively bite and hold on with every ounce of strength they have. All it takes is one moment of anger and someone could get seriously injured. Anyone with a child and a Pit Bull is playing with Fire.
 

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As sad as that is .... that does not change the facts. You could use that point of view with anything to serve someone's agenda. If you want to use 4 year olds as poster boys .... how about the 4-year old that got mauled by a Labrador, that make them all the same ? Or how about the infant chewed up by a Pomeranian who also died. Other infant deaths by Labs and a Beagle as well . Im going to stop now as I hope I got point across.

When people say there is no bad dog just bad owners, its the truth. People get dogs that they should not, say be family, experience, housing ect. Some people by dogs because of the stigma involved. Bad owners, about 80% of attacks are from unrestrained dogs , most of those numbers are when the dogs on the owner's property. less then 20% of attacks are on owners property being restrained. Less then 1% of attacks were restrained dogs off property .

Children and dogs are most attacked by dogs. There is plenty of blame to go around when it happens. Owners at times , parents and but children as well .... you never leave a young child around a dog alone .... no matter if you know it , it yours or its a stanger. The media does not actually do its job when it comes to reporting... They on average say its Pit over 50 % of the time .... when in turn true reliable ID of the breed is only around 20%
Let’s blame the child for being bitten!! Pit Bulls were originally bred to be aggressive and kill Bulls by using their powerful locking jaws to suffocate the bull. They bite and clamp down with every ounce of strength they have!!
No matter how nice and mellow you think your Pit Bull is, all it takes is one aggressive moment and someone could get seriously injured our killed.
 

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Let’s blame the child for being bitten!! Pit Bulls were originally bred to be aggressive and kill Bulls by using their powerful locking jaws to suffocate the bull. They bite and clamp down with every ounce of strength they have!!
No matter how nice and mellow you think your Pit Bull is, all it takes is one aggressive moment and someone could get seriously injured our killed.


I guess thats all you get out of that .... sad. You do know what generalizing is ? Maybe its hard for you too see the truth ... Owners are to blame , People in general, Parents of kids and the kids. Parents need to teach children better about dogs and also do a better job watching their younger ones. Older Children are to blame as well .... when they tease dogs , throw rocks and kick fences ect. At a certain age beleive it or not , kids do understand right from wrong .... and even more. Pits if anything so more aggression towards dogs as thats the breed. I dont care what type of dog it is ... they all have to be seen as a potential dog bite . Being naive and ignorant is what gets people bite
 

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Now that is one hell of a shot!

I wonder if that javalina spent its last milliseconds wondering if all dogs had the ability to fart lead projectiles or just the yellow ones.:laugh:
:lmao2::lmao::lmao2:
HILARIOUS

* as his head& jaws were still snapping& popping while laying on it's side,,,and about that shot, he had his bristles up which made his profile appear big than it really was,I was wanting to break a front shoulder to slow it down:lmao:
 

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I guess thats all you get out of that .... sad. You do know what generalizing is ? Maybe its hard for you too see the truth ... Owners are to blame , People in general, Parents of kids and the kids. Parents need to teach children better about dogs and also do a better job watching their younger ones. Older Children are to blame as well .... when they tease dogs , throw rocks and kick fences ect. At a certain age beleive it or not , kids do understand right from wrong .... and even more. Pits if anything so more aggression towards dogs as thats the breed. I dont care what type of dog it is ... they all have to be seen as a potential dog bite . Being naive and ignorant is what gets people bite

We can blame people all we want for their part, but there is a common sense approach to RISK.

In your opinion what is more likely. A pitbull being lethal or a human breaking up dogs fighting?

If you had a hundred incidents of a pitbull in an aggressive situation with another dog, and a human being on the street or a yard seeing two dogs fighting what would be the more likely occurrence? A pitbull lashing out in defence or aggression or a person sticking their hand in the fray to stop the dogs?

No matter what your opinion is about humans I would think the pits are more likely to be aggressive than any general human tending to break up the fight.

How would you answer Redball who lost his Golden Retriever to a pitbull. Was he stupid in the situation where his dog was in immediate danger. Is he suppose to stand back and watch the dog finish his beloved pet in front of him and the pitbull's owner?

If you only have one choice in the above likelihood scenario what would you choose. Then manage the risk based on that.

Pits should not go out without muzzles in my opinion. When left alone in a yard they should also be muzzled. If I owned a pit, and had to leave them alone I would have them in the house. I would train the dog to be an indoor dog. If they had to be outside I would muzzle them for the duration until I got home.

A muzzle would not be a representation of cruelty in my mind, it would be a sign of much the animal meant to me and the necessity for me as their human to manage the risk. I would train the dog that the muzzle does not get in the way of affection and love for the dog with proper obedience and treat reward.

Pitbulls are not for everyone, and for the odd person who feels they want one they have to manage the risk associated with that breed. IMO this is all on the owner. If you follow Corso's posts I would think he is a sensible owner of his pitbull.

It would be foolhardy to think everyone is approaching the breed the way he is.
 

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We can blame people all we want for their part, but there is a common sense approach to RISK.

In your opinion what is more likely. A pitbull being lethal or a human breaking up dogs fighting?

If you had a hundred incidents of a pitbull in an aggressive situation with another dog, and a human being on the street or a yard seeing two dogs fighting what would be the more likely occurrence? A pitbull lashing out in defence or aggression or a person sticking their hand in the fray to stop the dogs?

No matter what your opinion is about humans I would think the pits are more likely to be aggressive than any general human tending to break up the fight.

How would you answer Redball who lost his Golden Retriever to a pitbull. Was he stupid in the situation where his dog was in immediate danger. Is he suppose to stand back and watch the dog finish his beloved pet in front of him and the pitbull's owner?

If you only have one choice in the above likelihood scenario what would you choose. Then manage the risk based on that.

Pits should not go out without muzzles in my opinion. When left alone in a yard they should also be muzzled. If I owned a pit, and had to leave them alone I would have them in the house. I would train the dog to be an indoor dog. If they had to be outside I would muzzle them for the duration until I got home.

A muzzle would not be a representation of cruelty in my mind, it would be a sign of much the animal meant to me and the necessity for me as their human to manage the risk. I would train the dog that the muzzle does not get in the way of affection and love for the dog with proper obedience and treat reward.

Pitbulls are not for everyone, and for the odd person who feels they want one they have to manage the risk associated with that breed. IMO this is all on the owner. If you follow Corso's posts I would think he is a sensible owner of his pitbull.

It would be foolhardy to think everyone is approaching the breed the way he is.

I dont have PIts BTW and Im a father of way too many for my age :D kids are between the age 3- 16

You would be a responsible owner it seems. I love dogs even after biting 2 x in the face as a child first at 4 and then again 7. A Dog no matter where it may be, is on the owner to be responsible. Treat dogs as you would a child almost, I do with my pups. My dogs dont do well in different situations, so I make sure not to put them in one. My one dog I actually muzzle when she goes to the Vet , not because of aggression as she is the best dog I ever had. Its because of other dogs .... she get a bit too friendly with and seems to trigger responses from dogs. I care enough to not put her in a bad spot.

Now all dogs need to be treated with respect because any dog could bite even one you have had forever, X that by 100 with kids. Kids step on dogs , startle sleeping ones and worse maybe try to go for dog bowls while eating. Kids at a certain age should never be left alone with any dog ..... accidents can happen ..... even when the dog is trying to do right thing , liek protect a kid.

I see the biggest problem with Pits as the bad breeding, its gotten to the point where it is more than likely too late. Pits have become a status symbol and also a culture thing. Now its not even the fighting dogs , Ive found them to be the sweetest of the bunch in the past. Its the just washed out back yard breeders pumping out crap..... then bad owners spreading it liek wild fire. There is a way to fix, but no way it will happen anytime soon ... or how well it would go with some in the US




Edit: As for Red , my heart goes out to him . Losing a dog is the same as losing a family member. Most of us all know that pain and can relate. My dogs are referred to as my fury children. I would say not just to him but all dog owners - Speak up , talk and hold eachother responsable as fellow dog owners. Call people out for their **** . WHo cares about feelings being hurt when its will save worse feeling in the end.
 
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What Dak should do is have his dogs properly trained.
Properly train his house sitter.....
Who was the person staying at dak's home when the dogs got out. Is this a state secret? Haven't heard the local "News" stations clarify this in any way....
Wonder what's up? Nothing.. or something??
 

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That's tragic and I hate to hear about stuff like that. And how many times have we heard of not one, but two (or more) pitbulls that turn on their owner at the same time. Just my opinion, but any parent that has young children and a pitbull as a pet is completely irresponsible. It's like playing Russian Roulette with your children.
Apparently the Frisco police twice before have had to cite DAK for letting his dog run loose in the neighborhood before.

He obviously can or does not control it well enough.

I do not see a happy ending here for the dog or it's owner.

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So, seems as if some think it's OK to kill/maim kids because the owner is at fault.

You know, it doesn't really matter why or how these dogs are dangerous, but they are. If they are going to be made available to the general public, why in hades isn't there already some sort of law where the owner has to undergo training and be licensed?
 

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So, seems as if some think it's OK to kill/maim kids because the owner is at fault.

You know, it doesn't really matter why or how these dogs are dangerous, but they are. If they are going to be made available to the general public, why in hades isn't there already some sort of law where the owner has to undergo training and be licensed?
And require liability insurance for at least $100,000 on the animal.

Like owning a car..

you must have insurance or your licence is voided.

That will still not stop some people..

but something should be done.

I lost my Golden Retriever in November from a pit bull attack at a dog park.

She died 5 days later from infections the vet could not stop.

I am still looking for the owner at the dog park to hand her the bill for $500 it cost me to treat and cremate her.

When I went to the city who ran the dog park..

they told me there were signs posted saying there is no liability if you use the park.

I read them and there a single type written page with the park rules.

Nobody reads this.

Obviously..crap happens.

I know better now.

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So, seems as if some think it's OK to kill/maim kids because the owner is at fault.

You know, it doesn't really matter why or how these dogs are dangerous, but they are. If they are going to be made available to the general public, why in hades isn't there already some sort of law where the owner has to undergo training and be licensed?
I fully understand yer' angle, and while some Laws are good & some are merely grounded in feel good intentions, there's two tons of Laws too many on the books the way it is already,ya know? & how is implementing a new law going to thwart a particular breed of dog's known & inherent proclivities for flipping out and going into attack mode? A law isn't gonna be a bother to the dog, or, more than likely , to the element of society who favor owning that particular breed to begin with,I'm thinking.
 

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Really 11 pages about this? lol you guys are truely disturbed
We are bored.

So shoot us.

We love dogs.

And proper handling is a thing.

If you don't own..

you do not know.

If sometime somebody gets up out of a tackling pile and they are missing a finger..

you might get a bit upset.

I am sure DAK can throw with 4 fingers on his hand..

Not prob, right.?

Just kidding.

But sometimes when he throws one out if the back of the end zone and Gallop is wide open..

I would like to cut DAK's head off.

You get me?

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Someone lost part of their finger and our dopey QB will most likely have to pay out for it and who knows if the NFL investigates and gives a suspension.

This is more news than comparing Brown to freakin' Cooper.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Suspend him.

That will teach him.

Also,

make it forteting a game check if you fail to pickup your dogs poop.

That aught to bring the SPCA as a major sponsor.

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