Gerald McCoy to Carolina

[Sydla]

I would have too, but it looks like he had no interest himself, wanted to stay in the NFC South.

I’d have paid him $13MM for one year.

 

[Stash]

Exactly.

Note that the ones defending the situation where also ones who justified the lack of interest on the Cowboys part because McCoy would cost too much, likely signing a big multi-year deal.

Now the bar has been moved.

That's for sure. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt based on the eventual cost and the yrs involved in the contract. That has clearly been shown to not be an issue based on his one year deal for $8 million. There's no excuses for them now.

Cowboys missed a great opportunity to give themselves a dominant DL. Once again, cheapness and “liking our guys” rears it’s ugly head.

It’s why they are always a couple steps away from being a legit power in this league.

They are banking the entire 2019 season on a rookie solving their interior pass rush problems.

And overpaying a role player who has no true role on this team anymore, versus using that same money on someone who clearly would.

There is some serious dead weight on this team, in terms of roster numbers and contract costs, and many fans want to try to minimize what is staring them and everyone else in the face. Stop carrying dead weight because they're "good guys".

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Meanwhile, we sit on our hands with $20 million in cap space and a role player costing us a total of $10 million this year...

The Cowboys are taking the approach of having a lot of guys on prove it deals who have something to play for including their head coach. I can’t be mad at the approach. They clearly aren’t interested in anyone because they have the cap space to sign all these guys.

 

[Stash]

I would have too, but it looks like he had no interest himself, wanted to stay in the NFC South.

I doubt that was the ultimate reason. Money talks, and so does the opportunity to win. And based on where he signed and how much he was paid, those options weren't there.

He settled.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just curious to those who watch him play what did y’all see in McCoy? Every Buccs game I watch I don’t even notice him on the field and most times he’s not even in the game for whatever reason. Is it just the name?

 

[Stash]

The Cowboys are taking the approach of having a lot of guys on prove it deals who have something to play for including their head coach. I can’t be mad at the approach.

How would signing McCoy to the same one-year deal that Carolina did be any different?

They clearly aren’t interested in anyone because they have the cap space to sign all these guys.

And that's a mistake, compounded by the mistake of continuing to pay Crawford what he's making, to not even have a true role.

 

[Sydla]

Just curious to those who watch him play what did y’all see in McCoy? Every Buccs game I watch I don’t even notice him on the field and most times he’s not even in the game for whatever reason. Is it just the name?

He played pretty well last year.

He would be our best interior DL unless Trysten Hill explodes.

 

[tyke1doe]

I figured he was going to sign with them. Players love going against their old teams, especially if they have to do it twice a year.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Meanwhile, we sit on our hands with $20 million in cap space and a role player costing us a total of $10 million this year...

For the record I would have tried to sign him, but he wasn't coming to Dallas for that rate. He was offered more money by Cleveland and Baltimore and passed. A case of legitimately wanting to stay in a specific region of the country (and I'm sure playing TB twice didn't hurt).

 

[Sydla]

For the record I would have tried to sign him, but he wasn't coming to Dallas for that rate. He was offered more money by Cleveland and Baltimore and passed. A case of legitimately wanting to stay in a specific region of the country (and I'm sure playing TB twice didn't hurt).

Honest question..... where is it reported he took less money?

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Honest question..... where is it reported he took less money?

I don't know the particulars, but I edited my post to include a tweet from Rapoport.

 

[Sydla]

I don't know the particulars, but I edited my post to include a tweet from Rapoport.

Thanks.

 

[Stash]

For the record I would have tried to sign him, but he wasn't coming to Dallas for that rate. He was offered more money by Cleveland and Baltimore and passed. A case of legitimately wanting to stay in a specific region of the country (and I'm sure playing TB twice didn't hurt).

I don't see where that says that Cleveland or Baltimore "offered more money"?



It says he "took less money" than what he was due to make in Tampa Bay which was $13 million. It says nothing about what Cleveland or Baltimore offered.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

I don't see where that says that Cleveland or Baltimore "offered more money"?



It says he "took less money" than what he was due to make in Tampa Bay which was $13 million. It says nothing about what Cleveland or Baltimore offered.

That's not how I read it. He had no choice to stay with TB at that rate so how is that taking less money?

 

[Stash]

Just curious to those who watch him play what did y’all see in McCoy? Every Buccs game I watch I don’t even notice him on the field and most times he’s not even in the game for whatever reason. Is it just the name?

I saw a penetrator and disruptor, who did it by himself, on his own, and didn't require things to be specifically schemed for his to succeed. He was a force by himself. And that's far better than what we had at 3T in 2018.

 

[Stash]

That's not how I read it. He had no choice to stay with TB at that rate so how is that taking less money?

How is it not? When he was set to get paid $13 million and ended up getting $8 million, that's "taking less". It says nothing about what Cleveland or Baltimore offered and try to infer differently is misrepresenting it.

 

[INCowboysFan]

Meanwhile, we sit on our hands with $20 million in cap space and a role player costing us a total of $10 million this year...

And how do you know that they just sat on their hands? Maybe they spoke with the guy and he had no interest in coming here. Maybe he preferred to stay in the division and try to stick it to his old team 2x this season.

 

[Stash]

And how do you know that they just sat on their hands? Maybe they spoke with the guy and he had no interest in coming here. Maybe he preferred to stay in the division and try to stick it to his old team 2x this season.

Make up whatever you need to in order to feel less bad. I'll base my position on facts that I know and things that actually happened.

 

[OmerV]

I know it hurts you to see the Cowboys criticized, but honestly, who cares what "30 other teams" do? I don't know about you, but I'm not visiting "30 other teams" fan sites.

I care about what this one does, and I think they screwed this up and missed a clear opportunity. While they continue to grossly overpay a role player.

Two bad moves that I sorely disagree with.

Come on, you are better than your first sentence. When people pull out things like that they are saying they are unwilling to discuss in a reasonable manner and just want to use the silly tags like "homer" or "Garrett Lover" or whatever nonsense they choose at the time. That's not an argument for your case, that's just silly rhetoric.

Of course you care about the Cowboys more than other teams, as do I, but that doesn't mean it make sense to ignore what the rest of the NFL thinks and decide the only thing that matters is what stasheroo thinks. The fact that not every team was clamoring for this guy tells you he was not viewed as a must have player.

And realistically, if we chased after every player that a fan feels about the way you feel about McCoy, the Cowboys would have run out of cap space a long time ago. Think about it - the Cowboys are constantly criticized on this site for not going after this player or that, but realistically they can't pursue all these players. Besides, we know the Cowboys are reluctant to spend much on veteran free agents (except their own).

 

[Corso]

Eh... whatever.