Twitter: Aikman savages Doug Gottlieb on Luck

[Hennessy_King]

I get disagreeing with his decision, but saying he never showed fire, emotion or swag? That's just ignorant. Dude used to sprint down the field screaming after his teammates made great plays. He played with, through and after some very serious injuries. One even being life threatening.

I understand taking exception to this decision, but the rest of that comment is unfounded. Then again, some people think of a player or coach isn't screaming and cussing and hooting and hollering constantly, they don't have heart...

Tim Duncan says hello...

Tim duncan quit at 29? You couldn't get that man off a basketball court. He finished the game with the lacerated kidney then they shut him down the rest of the year. They obviously didn't know the severity and just shot him up full of drugs to get him through the game.

 

[mattjames2010]

The fact that you have to exaggerate the severity of his injury tells me that you actually agree with me.

Because surely quitting two weeks before the season with a minor injury would be pathetic correct?

And if you continue show that you are incapable of having a discussion without insulting people I will just put you on ignore. Your choice.

I'm not exaggerating anything. His injury kept him out of most of camp, when did this become something minor? The fact you believe he was going to start week one after only practicing a few times all offseason while his backups got most of the first team reps is hilarious.

This is not a minor injury, it is an injury to his calf/ankle that will linger - there is an issue with the bone. No, I don't think it is pathetic reason, because I am positive the injury is far more severe than the coach and player speak we got. He knew he wasn't going to start week 1 and he knows there is rehab to be happening again in the future dealing with his ankle. Again, he made this clear in his presser - he is done with the cycle of pain, rehab, new injury and rinse/repeat.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Wanting to preserve your physical and mental health and leaving tens of millions on the table is a 2019 thing to do? That's awesome. Shows progress in society. But I get it, you want these guys to pummel themselves into oblivion for your own entertainment while watching on your own couch and then when they want out, you say stuff like "this is a very 2019 thing we are witnessing".

Telling a grown man to suck it up and rehab some more so he can go out there and get more blows to his body. All for your entertainment and nothing more.

If he wasnt willing to deal even a sprained ankle, then he shoud have retired after last season.

 

[texbumthelife]

Tim duncan quit at 29? You couldn't get that man off a basketball court. He finished the game with the lacerated kidney then they shut him down the rest of the year. They obviously didn't know the severity and just shot him up full of drugs to get him through the game.

People accused Tim Duncan of not having heart because he wasn't carrying on like a convict on the court.

So he was willing to play a game in so much pain they just shot him up with drugs, but yeah, no heart. That makes no sense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm not exaggerating anything. His injury kept him out of most of camp, when did this become something minor? The fact you believe he was going to start week one after only practicing a few times all offseason while his backups got most of the first team reps is hilarious.

This is not a minor injury, it is an injury to his calf/ankle that will linger - there is an issue with the bone. No, I don't think it is pathetic reason, because I am positive the injury is far more severe than the coach and player speak we got. He knew he wasn't going to start week 1 and he knows there is rehab to be happening again in the future dealing with his ankle. Again, he made this clear in his presser - he is done with the cycle of pain, rehab, new injury and rinse/repeat.

Anytime you want to show me the article that says this was a severe injury where he would miss a significant part of the season, I will be more than happy to acknowledge your point.

 

[foofighters]

Luck got booed out of the stadium and he should have. What kind of pathetic ***** quits 2 weeks before the season begins because of an ankle sprain?

If he wasnt willing to risk an ankle sprain he should have retired in the offseason.

Are you pissed at Witten for what he did a couple years ago?

 

[Whyjerry]

Opinions aren’t right or wrong...they are opinions only. DG gave his. People don’t have to agree with his view, and I’m not saying I do. My only point is that him being controversial helps his career...it doesn’t hurt it. Despite how you or I feel about it.

I am going to make a prediction...We will soon reach a point where being controversial for the sake of being controversial will no longer work. Society is tiring of this type of behavior.

 

[Whyjerry]

Are you pissed at Witten for what he did a couple years ago?

I am pissed at Witten. All he does is catch first down passes. All day long....

 

[Hennessy_King]

What lies? Did he retire after tearing a kidney and stomach muscle? Or did he come back and play after what could have been a life threatening injury? And when he tore his kidney, he was also playing with broken ribs at that point. And that's on top of having consistent shoulder problems that eventually resulted in a torn labrum that needed extensive surgery.

Throw in a concussion during that time frame and the notion that he lacked competitive drive is hilarious.

No he didnt retire he was shut down for the whole rest of the season. He missed 3 weeks of the 2015 season with the sprained shoulder in september. Then got the season ending injury in the beginning of november. So he played in pain a few weeks with torn cartilage in his ribs. Not broken ribs. The torn labrum he dragged that out forever. He had the longest recovery of every injury he had. Brett farve got into a bad car accident and had to get some of his small intestines removed and missed 1 week of football.

 

[texbumthelife]

If he wasnt willing to deal even a sprained ankle, then he shoud have retired after last season.

You keep referring to the ankle sprain like he didn't also have the calf injury and like the effect of injuries isn't accumulative.

You're the guy who made up the BS story about breaking your nose and having a bone popping out of your eye and then playing two days later, aren't you?

 

[Hennessy_King]

Are you pissed at Witten for what he did a couple years ago?

I was. I still don't want him on the team.

 

[JeffAtl]

He has to justify his decision to no one.

He's also walking away with $25M in bonuses that weren't official "earned".

Luck's comment of "I haven't been able to live the life I want to live" was very hamfisted and tone-deaf. It's the football life that gave him the ability to collect $97M in compensation.

This should absolutely be a cautionary tale of paying signing bonuses all up front, rather than pro-rated over the years that they are earned.

 

[Sydla]

Tim duncan quit at 29? You couldn't get that man off a basketball court. He finished the game with the lacerated kidney then they shut him down the rest of the year. They obviously didn't know the severity and just shot him up full of drugs to get him through the game.

I think his point was about being a leader and having heart and basing on that on how a player acts on the court. Duncan was a quiet guy who showed little emotion on the court, but no one questioned his desire to play.

 

[texbumthelife]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

In case it hasn't been posted yet. Looks like the Colts knew and it wasnt just a sudden decision two weeks before the season because of an ankle sprain.

But keep the narrative going, kids.

 

[texbumthelife]

I think his point was about being a leader and having heart and basing on that on how a player acts on the court. Duncan was a quiet guy who showed little emotion on the court, but no one questioned his desire to play.

Bingo.

 

[mattjames2010]

Anytime you want to show me the article that says this was a severe injury where he would miss a significant part of the season, I will be more than happy to acknowledge your point.

Dude, it kept him out of camp. That's multiple weeks right there, couple that with weeks going into the regular season and them not even having a time frame for his return. How do you think this plays out, man? He missed 97% of camp, you know, which is pretty dang important for conditioning.

You want to actually listen to what Luck was saying in his presser? He was not speaking of this injury as something small, he knew it was going to lead to rehab and long term pain.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...ck-retire-colts-qb/1nta6urevjrpi1p4wm8dy4pops

"At some point over the last two weeks, Andrew Luck decided enough was enough. He was in pain yet again, and this time, the agony was not ceasing. He told Colts owner Jim Irsay and team officials he needed to retire from football in order to live the life he wants to live, a life without this kind of suffering."

So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say this injury was severe enough for Luck to say "Enough is enough".

 

[erod]

Fighting what. It isn't his shoulder. He does this every year in TC. He misses time he has some lingering injury. If I'm a colts fan it would be good riddance. Just like I was sick of hearing Romo being babied every offseason and training camp.

Babied? Multiple back surgeries and he's being babied?

 

[Hennessy_King]

I think his point was about being a leader and having heart and basing on that on how a player acts on the court. Duncan was a quiet guy who showed little emotion on the court, but no one questioned his desire to play.

Ppl show things differently. Luck showed neither of the traits.

 

[texbumthelife]

He's also walking away with $25M in bonuses that weren't official "earned".

Luck's comment of "I haven't been able to live the life I want to live" was very hamfisted and tone-deaf. It's the football life that gave him the ability to collect $97M in compensation.

This should absolutely be a cautionary tale of paying signing bonuses all up front, rather than pro-rated over the years that they are earned.

Absolutely. If you're also going to take away the owners ability to just cut bait on players as well.

 

[Hennessy_King]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colts-reportedly-considered-placing-andrew-luck-on-injured-reserve-to-postpone-a-final-decision/amp/#aoh=15668419721779&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

In case it hasn't been posted yet. Looks like the Colts knew and it wasnt just a sudden decision two weeks before the season because of an ankle sprain.

But keep the narrative going, kids.

It's a shame they kept it quiet so they could sell more tickets.