Why do we care what players get paid?

Hadenough · Mar 13, 2020

What has me annoyed is not the money. It's the idea that a 12th ranked QB thinks he is worth the top elite money.

TwistedL0g1k · Mar 13, 2020

CouchCoach said:
This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

Sorry, but the management of a team is an economic endeavor. Every team has limited resources (draft picks and salary cap), so what matters is how those limited resources are allocated. A discussion about these decisions is a discussion about football.

CF74 · Mar 13, 2020

I don’t care but the Cap cares. Personally I believe the money they make is insane but entertainment sells...

Captain-Crash · Mar 13, 2020

why'd anybody care if Garrett stayed or go?

MarcusRock · Mar 13, 2020

rocyaice said:
Shouldn’t be a concern when it’s about 15 percent of your cap and the salary cap is going up every year. Even in the MLB fans care about how much guys get paid. It’s broke people telling millionaires how much they should take.

The bold is my position on the matter. The NFL having a salary cap makes for a good cover for some piker fans being jealous of players they look down on out-earning them many times over. It used to be that nerds could say they would amount to more than the jocks someday but now even that's not true anymore so I get the "how dare they ..." upturned nose thing. Lol.

Alexander · Mar 13, 2020

Because we pretend what we would do is what the Joneses would do.

Buzzbait · Mar 13, 2020

CouchCoach said:
All of this angst over Prescott and his salary to be, why does anyone care that's not paying it? Do you see a better option at QB to win now? Not in the future, win now with this team? The thinking that he cuts a deal and they'll spend that on D studs, where does that come from? They've been the smallest spenders on salaries since 2016. They brought in Quinn who was fine as a pass rusher but not a good run defender and they went 8-8. They traded for him, they didn't go big in FA for him. They're not players in FA. I don't care what they pay anybody, that's not football, that's not even a sport. This cap management stuff is utter nonsense.I want my team to have the best possible players beginning with the ones I know about that have already shown it. That's why I want to keep Prescott, Cooper and Jones because I don't know the options and I think they give this team it's best chance to turn things back north. If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not. I only care about this season and I have no idea what's going to happen to that cap or QB salaries but I suspect both are going up considerably.

I don't care if Prescott is the highest paid QB or Cooper as the WR or Jones as the CB because comparing them to others and salary comparing is ridiculous, we do not have access to those players. They are either worth keeping or they or not or they have a reasonable option to replace them. And there is no rookie at those 3 positions that is going to be as good as those 3 players.

These negotiations have taken over the forum and we're spending more time on the evil of the game, the money, than the game itself. You going to watch these players cash game checks or play on the field?

If you feel there are better options, FOR THIS SEASON, than these 3 players, that is one thing but money isn't the factor. This team is loaded to go hunting now, that's why this HC was hired, to turn this north and win now. Are they a true contender? Not sure but any one of those 3 players is removed makes it tougher.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not.
First of all, yes I am concerned about the future.
Second, this is not just a "football" forum, it's a Dallas Cowboys football forum.
So it seems perfectly natural to me to be concerned about the future of my favorite team.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics
I don't know about you, but my household has to live within the means of our income, as do most people. And yet many of those same people fail to understand how it is that the Dallas Cowboys have to live within the means of their salary cap.

This team is loaded to go hunting now
This loaded team just came off an 8-8 season and they need serious help on the defense.
The word is that if they overpay Dak and Coop which they probably will, they'll have to cut CB Byron Jones.
When you start cutting good players in order to overpay others, you may have to start "hunting" squirrels instead of bear.

Coach I don't give a rat's rear end what players get paid, I care about winning. The problem is, winning and mismanaging the salary cap do not get along well.
It doesn't matter whether you and I believe that or not, it's still a fact.
The NE Patriots are a perfect example of how to manage your salary cap and still win, but nobody seems to pay any attention.

jaybird · Mar 13, 2020

CouchCoach said:
All of this angst over Prescott and his salary to be, why does anyone care that's not paying it? Do you see a better option at QB to win now? Not in the future, win now with this team?

The thinking that he cuts a deal and they'll spend that on D studs, where does that come from? They've been the smallest spenders on salaries since 2016. They brought in Quinn who was fine as a pass rusher but not a good run defender and they went 8-8. They traded for him, they didn't go big in FA for him. They're not players in FA.

I don't care what they pay anybody, that's not football, that's not even a sport. This cap management stuff is utter nonsense.

I want my team to have the best possible players beginning with the ones I know about that have already shown it. That's why I want to keep Prescott, Cooper and Jones because I don't know the options and I think they give this team it's best chance to turn things back north.

If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not. I only care about this season and I have no idea what's going to happen to that cap or QB salaries but I suspect both are going up considerably.

I don't care if Prescott is the highest paid QB or Cooper as the WR or Jones as the CB because comparing them to others and salary comparing is ridiculous, we do not have access to those players. They are either worth keeping or they or not or they have a reasonable option to replace them. And there is no rookie at those 3 positions that is going to be as good as those 3 players.

These negotiations have taken over the forum and we're spending more time on the evil of the game, the money, than the game itself. You going to watch these players cash game checks or play on the field?

If you feel there are better options, FOR THIS SEASON, than these 3 players, that is one thing but money isn't the factor. This team is loaded to go hunting now, that's why this HC was hired, to turn this north and win now. Are they a true contender? Not sure but any one of those 3 players is removed makes it tougher.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

ultron · Mar 13, 2020

Salary cap.

ESisback · Mar 13, 2020

To the OP: people care because these players hold out over money, and it greatly affects the success of the team. I don’t care if Dak is a multimillionaire playing ball, but if he’s offered 30 million, and he holds the team hostage because his ego wants 40, then it bothers me.

Hey kid....play ball, get filthy rich, and shut up!

ElGatoGrande · Mar 13, 2020

KJJ said:
If you’re inferring I was a Romo hater you’re wrong...just sayin!

Just sayin!

john van brocklin · Mar 13, 2020

CouchCoach said:
All of this angst over Prescott and his salary to be, why does anyone care that's not paying it? Do you see a better option at QB to win now? Not in the future, win now with this team?

The thinking that he cuts a deal and they'll spend that on D studs, where does that come from? They've been the smallest spenders on salaries since 2016. They brought in Quinn who was fine as a pass rusher but not a good run defender and they went 8-8. They traded for him, they didn't go big in FA for him. They're not players in FA.

I don't care what they pay anybody, that's not football, that's not even a sport. This cap management stuff is utter nonsense.

I want my team to have the best possible players beginning with the ones I know about that have already shown it. That's why I want to keep Prescott, Cooper and Jones because I don't know the options and I think they give this team it's best chance to turn things back north.

If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not. I only care about this season and I have no idea what's going to happen to that cap or QB salaries but I suspect both are going up considerably.

I don't care if Prescott is the highest paid QB or Cooper as the WR or Jones as the CB because comparing them to others and salary comparing is ridiculous, we do not have access to those players. They are either worth keeping or they or not or they have a reasonable option to replace them. And there is no rookie at those 3 positions that is going to be as good as those 3 players.

These negotiations have taken over the forum and we're spending more time on the evil of the game, the money, than the game itself. You going to watch these players cash game checks or play on the field?

If you feel there are better options, FOR THIS SEASON, than these 3 players, that is one thing but money isn't the factor. This team is loaded to go hunting now, that's why this HC was hired, to turn this north and win now. Are they a true contender? Not sure but any one of those 3 players is removed makes it tougher.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

2 words Coach, salary cap
Otherwise i could care less

kskboys · Mar 13, 2020

CouchCoach said:
All of this angst over Prescott and his salary to be, why does anyone care that's not paying it? Do you see a better option at QB to win now? Not in the future, win now with this team?

The thinking that he cuts a deal and they'll spend that on D studs, where does that come from? They've been the smallest spenders on salaries since 2016. They brought in Quinn who was fine as a pass rusher but not a good run defender and they went 8-8. They traded for him, they didn't go big in FA for him. They're not players in FA.

I don't care what they pay anybody, that's not football, that's not even a sport. This cap management stuff is utter nonsense.

I want my team to have the best possible players beginning with the ones I know about that have already shown it. That's why I want to keep Prescott, Cooper and Jones because I don't know the options and I think they give this team it's best chance to turn things back north.

If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not. I only care about this season and I have no idea what's going to happen to that cap or QB salaries but I suspect both are going up considerably.

I don't care if Prescott is the highest paid QB or Cooper as the WR or Jones as the CB because comparing them to others and salary comparing is ridiculous, we do not have access to those players. They are either worth keeping or they or not or they have a reasonable option to replace them. And there is no rookie at those 3 positions that is going to be as good as those 3 players.

These negotiations have taken over the forum and we're spending more time on the evil of the game, the money, than the game itself. You going to watch these players cash game checks or play on the field?

If you feel there are better options, FOR THIS SEASON, than these 3 players, that is one thing but money isn't the factor. This team is loaded to go hunting now, that's why this HC was hired, to turn this north and win now. Are they a true contender? Not sure but any one of those 3 players is removed makes it tougher.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

Here's why, CC. Because overpaying players leads to mediocrity. If we overpay Dak, and he continues being inconsistent, we've set ourselves back a few years.

On a personal level, no one cares what he makes.

kskboys · Mar 13, 2020

Aviano90 said:
You're exactly right. Fans have become overly concerned with salaries. They can no longer kick back and enjoy a game or team. I'll admit, I became that fan, but realized it just took away some of the enjoyment and honestly don't care that much about it anymore. Put talent on the field...as much of it as you can and make a SB run. That's what I want the team to do. If it costs a couple of throwaway seasons in the future, so be it.

Overpaying a few players keeps you from putting that talent on the field.

atlantacowboy · Mar 13, 2020

CouchCoach said:
All of this angst over Prescott and his salary to be, why does anyone care that's not paying it? Do you see a better option at QB to win now? Not in the future, win now with this team?

The thinking that he cuts a deal and they'll spend that on D studs, where does that come from? They've been the smallest spenders on salaries since 2016. They brought in Quinn who was fine as a pass rusher but not a good run defender and they went 8-8. They traded for him, they didn't go big in FA for him. They're not players in FA.

I don't care what they pay anybody, that's not football, that's not even a sport. This cap management stuff is utter nonsense.

I want my team to have the best possible players beginning with the ones I know about that have already shown it. That's why I want to keep Prescott, Cooper and Jones because I don't know the options and I think they give this team it's best chance to turn things back north.

If you are concerned about the future, that's different but I am not. I only care about this season and I have no idea what's going to happen to that cap or QB salaries but I suspect both are going up considerably.

I don't care if Prescott is the highest paid QB or Cooper as the WR or Jones as the CB because comparing them to others and salary comparing is ridiculous, we do not have access to those players. They are either worth keeping or they or not or they have a reasonable option to replace them. And there is no rookie at those 3 positions that is going to be as good as those 3 players.

These negotiations have taken over the forum and we're spending more time on the evil of the game, the money, than the game itself. You going to watch these players cash game checks or play on the field?

If you feel there are better options, FOR THIS SEASON, than these 3 players, that is one thing but money isn't the factor. This team is loaded to go hunting now, that's why this HC was hired, to turn this north and win now. Are they a true contender? Not sure but any one of those 3 players is removed makes it tougher.

This forum is supposed to be about football, not economics.

We care b/c there is a salary cap that affects the team. Its not real hard connecting the dots here.

RonnieT24 · Mar 13, 2020

If there was no salary cap I honestly could care less what the players make. They should get every dime they can for the amount of sacrifice one has to make not only to make it to the league but to stay there. THe game takes a tremendous toll on their bodies for which they will spend the rest of their lives paying for. All that said, there IS a salary cap and since I want my team to be good I don't want guys being overpaid to the extent that it forces my team to have to let go of good players. Emmitt, Troy, Deion and Mike did that to the 90's team. They money-grabbed for every nickel and as a result the team crumbled around them. Now in hindsight they can see that they did it the wrong way as I honestly believe that team had at least one more Super Bowl run in it had it been able to stay together. Especially that '99 team that lost Mike to the turf at the Vet. But at least in their cases they had three Super Bowls to justify their salary demands. This bunch has nothing even close to that. They are all making "generational money" anyway so it's just plain dumb for them to be screwing up the team over an extra million or two. I don't get it and I don't like it one bit.

kskboys · Mar 13, 2020

TwistedL0g1k said:
Sorry, but the management of a team is an economic endeavor. Every team has limited resources (draft picks and salary cap), so what matters is how those limited resources are allocated. A discussion about these decisions is a discussion about football.

Very well stated.

cern · Mar 13, 2020

I don't care what anyone gets paid. I don't buy team costumes. But I do agree with the pie has just so many slices in it. The more slices one takes for himself, the fewer slices remain for the rest.

InTheZone · Mar 13, 2020

I don't see how settling, regardless of what he's paid, is acceptable.

cern · Mar 13, 2020

TwistedL0g1k said:
Sorry, but the management of a team is an economic endeavor. Every team has limited resources (draft picks and salary cap), so what matters is how those limited resources are allocated. A discussion about these decisions is a discussion about football.

Ksk said it all. We get pertinent medical reports about injured players. Just football.

Why do we care what players get paid?

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What's it going to be then, eh?

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