How can we blame Dak?

rnr_honeybadger

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You’re blaming Romo for not winning when he played at an elite level year in and year out? LOL!

Dak is playing like a mediocre, below average QB right now. Romo wouldn’t know what that’s like.

Actually a lot of Romo's first years were lived being a gun slinger who was an average QB. People choose to forget that because of the QB he became.
 

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I have often times stated that the combination of a QB and a coach is what drives a team forward. People think that just replacing Dak's going to fix this thing and it isn't. Brady has Bellicheck, Aikman had Jimmy - it's the combination and strong supporting cast that makes the whole thing go.
 

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Can you say RGIII , guy just isn't very good now (long term slump????) , Defense stacks box now and forces Dak to win game, result Dak folds like a cheap lawn chair, you know what Dak did in 2016 doesn't mean anything in 2018, guy flat out stinks now.
 
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Check TO's stats before and after Romo became the starter.

His production Increased by more than 50% the moment Romo took the reins.

So did Witten's.

That's a fact. No matter how much you wish it werent.

Yeah that TO never produced without Romo throwing him the ball....
 

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Yeah that TO never produced without Romo throwing him the ball....


Not in Dallas he didn’t

Check the stats for those first five games with Bledsoe as quarterback and then see how much his production increased after Romo took over

That was clearly the point of my post and if you missed it it’s because you wanted to miss it. That’s your problem not mine
 

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Uh, I blame Dak because I watch the games? I watch him hold the ball too long, completely wiff on open receivers, throw balls in terrible spots, fail at "feeling" the rush coming, or get spooked by a rush that isn't coming, and completely miss/fail to even look in the direction on easy reads that are breaking open.

Just because I blame Dak, doesn't mean he's the only one I blame though. There's plenty go go around with this lot.
 

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Actually a lot of Romo's first years were lived being a gun slinger who was an average QB. People choose to forget that because of the QB he became.

What am I forgetting?
The average QB rating is like 88.6

Romo's first 4 years
95.1 - 19 TD's
97.4 - 36 TD's
91.4 - 26 TD's
97.6 - 26 TD's

All with like 8 yards per attempt.

Define average QB please.
 

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1. The David Irving circus

2. The idiotic playcalling with Scott L

3. The abysmal management by Red Garrett

4. The awful talent at wide receiver

5. The awful talent at TE

6. The awful play by the oline

7. The awful decision to have Moore as QB coach


Let me reiterate this point. i believe Dak does share some blame here. However, my eyes have seen Dak play well when he has the weapons and the schematics to help him. I think eventually Jerry is going to have to choose what's more important

A. Jason Garrett and his tenure with the Dallas Cowboys.

B. The Development of Dak Prescott

Jason Garrett since his time in Dallas has developed a grand total of 0 QB behind Romo hence why we had to rely on old talent like Kitna, Orton, Sanchez, etc. It was Garrett's job to develop Prescott and enhance his skillset from the 16 season. He did not do that. That in itself is indicative of why Garrett should be fired. I want to see Prescott succeed. I believe we all do. I am not opposed to giving Prescott a fair shot at keeping this job because I want to see him behind a competent playcaller/head coach/talent around him.
Everybody but... stop me if we've heard this before.
 

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What am I forgetting?
The average QB rating is like 88.6

Romo's first 4 years
95.1 - 19 TD's
97.4 - 36 TD's
91.4 - 26 TD's
97.6 - 26 TD's

All with like 8 yards per attempt.

Define average QB please.
All while winning well over half his games despite a mediocre defense. Romo was a beast.

Comparing him to Dak, at this point, is a joke. Dak is playing like an average to below-average starter right now.
 

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You’re blaming Romo for not winning when he played at an elite level year in and year out? LOL!

Dak is playing like a mediocre, below average QB right now. Romo wouldn’t know what that’s like.
I'm not blaming anybody. I just stated facts. But here is something else Romo don't know anything about...........an 11 game winning streak and only 4 picks in a season.

Perhaps people should read the entire conversation to get all the information so when they reply they don't look silly. I replied to the comment about Bledso got all these excuses why he couldn't win but when Romo became the starter is magically disappeared but yet Romo gets more excuses then almost any player.
 

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Well at this point, after everything we have seen... watching every friggin game... I don't know how anyone wouldn't wish for a Romo type QB back.

I need something to keep me awake during games... even if it is an epic last minute interception for the loss... The only thing I do now is laugh at the TV. Then when I watch the angles a couple days later... I just shake my head wondering what could possibly be keeping Dak in the actual game.

What, are they afraid they will hurt his feelings?

Screw Dak's feelings....

When you watch that All or Nothing, look at the Thanksgiving one. When they are in the meeting. I think it was Wade saying, he had no idea where Dak's confidence has went... Well, if he had confidence, it is gone and it isn't coming back. He probably left it where he left his mechanics, anticipation, defensive reading ability... etc...

I suggest if he wants to have any chance of winning anything, he drops his little fears of turning the ball over, and let's loose... Friggin either make it an epic win, or an epic fail. Either way just do something!

Sick of the mediocre scared football crap he is playing.

There is a QB actually comparable to Dak in the NFL right now... Tyrod Taylor.

But... But... But... he protects the football. He can shove the football up his _____! Maybe no one will find it then, and it will be safe.

Frankly if he keeps playing like this, and they don't try White or Rush at least one game... they are complete fools. Which we already know they are.

The friggin ship has sailed for Dak Prescott... he isn't a franchise QB, he will never be a franchise QB. The same issues he had were there in 2016, they just weren't as obvious, because defenses didn't know what to expect.

Now they have progressively gotten worse.

Any person that reads Dak's draft profile, and doesn't see that as a carbon copy of what we are looking at right now... in the 3RD FRIGGIN YEAR, needs to find a neurosurgeon.

Because they either have brain trauma, or they do not watch the games, and they do not look at the footage of all the other angles during the game. There is no way a person that at the very least watches these games, can't see it.

I don't care what coach you have, they will not make Dak Prescott better. They might have the talent to scheme to his disabilities, but they would never make him better.

There isn't a team out there that would even trade for Dak for anything but a backup. We wouldn't even get a 4th rounder for him, to make us even.
Some folks on the other thread were saying he's worth a first rd pick. Lol yeah right. I'm not sure we'd even get a fourth. I might be wrong about that one though
 

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Some folks on the other thread were saying he's worth a first rd pick. Lol yeah right. I'm not sure we'd even get a fourth. I might be wrong about that one though
Could have got a 1st round for him in 2016. Not now. I don't know what you can get for him now.
 

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I'm not blaming anybody. I just stated facts. But here is something else Romo don't know anything about...........an 11 game winning streak and only 4 picks in a season.

Perhaps people should read the entire conversation to get all the information so when they reply they don't look silly. I replied to the comment about Bledso got all these excuses why he couldn't win but when Romo became the starter is magically disappeared but yet Romo gets more excuses then almost any player.
Romo played QB at a high level. Perhaps that’s why people didn’t blame him?

Dak is playing like garbage (LOL at your 2016 reference). Perhaps that’s why people are blaming him?
 

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Romo played QB at a high level. Perhaps that’s why people didn’t blame him?

Dak is playing like garbage (LOL at your 2016 reference). Perhaps that’s why people are blaming him?
Nice try but you completely missed the entire point again. Either go back and read from when the comments first started or just stop
 

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1. The David Irving circus

2. The idiotic playcalling with Scott L

3. The abysmal management by Red Garrett

4. The awful talent at wide receiver

5. The awful talent at TE

6. The awful play by the oline

7. The awful decision to have Moore as QB coach


Let me reiterate this point. i believe Dak does share some blame here. However, my eyes have seen Dak play well when he has the weapons and the schematics to help him. I think eventually Jerry is going to have to choose what's more important

A. Jason Garrett and his tenure with the Dallas Cowboys.

B. The Development of Dak Prescott

Jason Garrett since his time in Dallas has developed a grand total of 0 QB behind Romo hence why we had to rely on old talent like Kitna, Orton, Sanchez, etc. It was Garrett's job to develop Prescott and enhance his skillset from the 16 season. He did not do that. That in itself is indicative of why Garrett should be fired. I want to see Prescott succeed. I believe we all do. I am not opposed to giving Prescott a fair shot at keeping this job because I want to see him behind a competent playcaller/head coach/talent around him.

to be 30th ranked passing offense it almost always comes down to QB, regardless of how bad other pheripherials are (RB, WR, play calling, etc).
 

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Nice try but you completely missed the entire point again. Either go back and read from when the comments first started or just stop
LOL your point is still as nonsensical as I remember it.

Romo didn’t need excuses because he played like a beast. So anyone blaming him was off-base to begin with.

Dak needs excuses because he’s playing like garbage. So he deserves blame, just like Drew Bledsoe in 2006.

Have a nice day.
 
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