2 Questions For the Zoners Who Want to Let Moore Go

[RustyBourneHorse]

This is

Here's Dak carrying Kellen and our Cowboys.....

Counterargument, wouldn't it be nice to get both a new QB AND OC? Both are possible. We can either draft a new QB this year or next. We can hire a new OC this offseason. Dak's contract is structured to where a 2024 June 1 cut is possible, or he can play that last year of his contract. While he plays this year and possibly next year, we could have a new QB learning under Dak the ways of the new OC, and then we would have new ideas and a new QB to go with it so that we can rid ourselves of the Clappers grip.

 

[Whyjerry]

I’m not against getting rid of Dak. You have me mistaken. His contract is the problem here. Dumb and dumber aren’t going to bite that bullet. So there’s only 1 option left.

For better or worse they are stuck with him for 2 years. Best move would be get a real EXPERIENCED OC in to make the best of it and draft a couple guys over the next year and hope the scouts can find a gem.

 

[Sheepherder]

The only reason to change from Moore is we know how things currently are that Dak can’t get us over the jump so maybe a shakeup is what’s needed.

Kellen Moore is not the problem but what else can we do…

Draft a QB that can be sitting back and learning just in case Dak isn't the guy.

 

[G2]

I'm not a big Moore fan, but I have to admit you're right. And besides week 1, this is the first year the Cowboys didn't have any no show games from the offense.

Yes, they did. The most important one in the playoffs, just like last season.

 

[Whyjerry]

Awe, feelings hurt to now hurl insults? Typical emotionally triggered Dakites who can't handle criticism where it belongs: on the overpaid, moron QB that has a higher Comp % to defenders than to his own receivers.

Hyperbole. Just not true but you chuckleheads keep going. Bring in Brady or Rodgers and it will be the same garbage. Keep blaming Dak it’s what Jerry wants.

 

[Captain-Crash]

This is

Here's Dak carrying Kellen and our Cowboys.....

a new offensive coordinator will fix daks eyes and fear and pea brain. That were some awesome throws, the interception was because of the wide receivers on all of them. dak has never thrown a bad ball.

 

[tomokawan]

It's going to be hysterical around here when somebody else comes in and the offense ends up middle of the pack. The bellowing is going to be off the charts entertaining.

Moving on from Moore will not work

How do you know this???

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Counterargument, wouldn't it be nice to get both a new QB AND OC? Both are possible. We can either draft a new QB this year or next. We can hire a new OC this offseason. Dak's contract is structured to where a 2024 June 1 cut is possible, or he can play that last year of his contract. While he plays this year and possibly next year, we could have a new QB learning under Dak the ways of the new OC, and then we would have new ideas and a new QB to go with it so that we can rid ourselves of the Clappers grip.

We will be bringing in a new QB either thru FA or the draft.
Prescott won't last the upcoming season either getting injured(Again) or being benched.
His owners and teammates have lost any confidence they might have had and on his 1st stink em game the boos will be plenty and the bench will need warming.
The Prescott era is over in Dallas as all that remains is that fat overpaid contract of his disabling us to keep and acquire new players.

 

[Whyjerry]

a new offensive coordinator will fix daks eyes and fear and pea brain. That were some awesome throws, the interception was because of the wide receivers on all of them. dak has never thrown a bad ball.

You know they are stuck with Dak right? 2 years. They are not stuck with Moore. Time for a change. Hopefully they catch lightning in a bottle.

 

[Captain-Crash]

You know they are stuck with Dak right? 2 years. They are not stuck with Moore. Time for a change. Hopefully they catch lightning in a bottle.

yeah, let's cut and fire some more guys too, that will fix him. You know, that will fix him.

 

[USArmyVet]

So your first issue with your analysis is assuming Dak is a problem. As has been shown here is recent days, Jimmy Johnson AND Bill Parcells both think Dak is good enough to win a super Bowl.

Read that last sentence again, slowly, until you understand it.

Unless you, and your ignorant ilk, think you know more football than they do, let's just move on from that ignorance.

2nd- we have an offensive HC who won a super Bowl with his offense and calling plays. Snot nose has never been past the divisional round in LARGE part to his predictable and unimaginative playcalling. BP mentioned his playcalling as an issue.

You are not getting the value out of McCarthy that you should be. You are getting 35% of the benefit at best of what McCarthy can actually do.

Without Dak, and we have seen the offense without Dak in the last few years bc of injury, the offense is bottom 1/3. That is even with the great Cooper Rush running things that, again, your ilk, thinks is better than Dak.

So you wanted reasons, those are basic reasons. I can go into more depth if needed.

How was that great Dak-led offense against SF last season and this season in the playoffs???? Oh, and you left out where Jimmy said Dak can lead a team to the Super Bowl so long as he has everything perfect around him.
Lastly, McCarhty's Packers won the Super Bowl in 2010 when GB went 10-6 and if his offensive mind was so good why did GB get bounced 1 and done the next season after going 15-1.....and why hasn't McCarthy done crap since 2010 in terms of playoff success?
Keep in mind that McCarthy went 8-8 his first HC year in GB in 2006 and only after Joe Philbin came on as the OC in 2007-2011 did GB make it to the playoffs 4 of the 5 years he was there....so was it really McCarthy or was it Joe Philbin that deserves the credit????

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We will be bringing in a new QB either thru FA or the draft.
Prescott won't last the upcoming season either getting injured(Again) or being benched.
His owners and teammates have lost any confidence they might have had and on his 1st stink em game the boos will be plenty and the bench will need warming.
The Prescott era is over in Dallas as all that remains is that fat overpaid contract of his disabling us to keep and acquire new players.

I don't know about over, but he probably won't get a new contract considering how Jerry sounded after that last game and how the Cowboys Twitter account blamed him in public. So, I think what remains is that we need to draft one. We can keep playing Dak for two more seasons, and I think we should. This will give us time to find a new QB and get that QB ready to start in 2025. In the meantime, we need to get a new OC so that we can run a new offense. Otherwise, it'll be like changing socks. The QB will perform similarly because the offense will be the same system as the last 15 years. We need something new at OC.

 

[Whyjerry]

yeah, let's cut and fire some more guys too, that will fix him. You know, that will fix him.

Where did I say cut? Where exactly? I said bring in a new OC. Hopefully experienced. Hopefully someone that can coach a running game and stick to it. Hopefully someone that can get Dak to cut down on the mistakes. Hopefully someone that can develop a young draft pick. 2 years they need to do something different. The only chance I see of trading Dak is if a good team loses their starter in camp and is desperate.

Or we can just yell Dak Dak Dak while the real reason for this garbage sits in the owners box.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I think we should keep dak too, I would hate to win nothing without him or with a new guy. If I was the owner and gm I would stick with him for fear of doing better with a different guy.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

For all the people who want to ditch Moore, help me understand. If you drop the Andy Dalton year, the last 3 years the Cowboys have been 4th,
1st and 6th in scoring. For those 3 years combined, the Cowboys are 2nd in scoring only behind KC.
The OC accomplished this with a QB that everyone but those completely in the tank for Dak agrees has fatal limitations, torpedoed
our post season this year with turnovers, and ended our post season last year with the stupidest in game decision I've seen since.....well ever.

Seems like the obvious problem is the QB not the OC, and if anything this OC has over achieved.

My 2 questions to the legion of Zoners who want to ditch Moore are:
1. Given Dak's liabilities, what exactly do you think a new OC will realistically accomplish that Moore hasn't already accomplished?
2. Given how profilic Moore's offenses have been compared to those of other OC's, do you realize it's likely that any offense under a new OC
will be worse not better?

1. Focus on the run game and lean into it. Create a play action game off of that which Dak has shown to excel at.
2. It can be worse statwise but better when it matters. I will take consistency and a dominate run game over big stats.

 

[Whyjerry]

So your first issue with your analysis is assuming Dak is a problem. As has been shown here is recent days, Jimmy Johnson AND Bill Parcells both think Dak is good enough to win a super Bowl.

Read that last sentence again, slowly, until you understand it.

Unless you, and your ignorant ilk, think you know more football than they do, let's just move on from that ignorance.

2nd- we have an offensive HC who won a super Bowl with his offense and calling plays. Snot nose has never been past the divisional round in LARGE part to his predictable and unimaginative playcalling. BP mentioned his playcalling as an issue.

You are not getting the value out of McCarthy that you should be. You are getting 35% of the benefit at best of what McCarthy can actually do.

Without Dak, and we have seen the offense without Dak in the last few years bc of injury, the offense is bottom 1/3. That is even with the great Cooper Rush running things that, again, your ilk, thinks is better than Dak.

So you wanted reasons, those are basic reasons. I can go into more depth if needed.

Great post. The Dakaholics just hang from trees and scream. Jerry loves those boys.

 

[charron]

When your offense is based around a non elite qb you have got to find a way to make things easier on him. The boys need a ground game to lean on when defenses get tough.

 

[Whyjerry]

When your offense is based around a non elite qb you have got to find a way to make things easier on him. The boys need a ground game to lean on when defenses get tough.

Thank you.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I guess you guys missed the part where Jimmy said you weren't winning crap with dak unless he has a stacked team to carry him. Wow, just wow I bet he would say the same thing about Rush if he had a stacked team to carry him too. shrugs, you can't make this crap up.

 

[CowboyoWales]

For all the people who want to ditch Moore, help me understand. If you drop the Andy Dalton year, the last 3 years the Cowboys have been 4th,
1st and 6th in scoring. For those 3 years combined, the Cowboys are 2nd in scoring only behind KC.
The OC accomplished this with a QB that everyone but those completely in the tank for Dak agrees has fatal limitations, torpedoed
our post season this year with turnovers, and ended our post season last year with the stupidest in game decision I've seen since.....well ever.

Seems like the obvious problem is the QB not the OC, and if anything this OC has over achieved.

My 2 questions to the legion of Zoners who want to ditch Moore are:
1. Given Dak's liabilities, what exactly do you think a new OC will realistically accomplish that Moore hasn't already accomplished?
2. Given how profilic Moore's offenses have been compared to those of other OC's, do you realize it's likely that any offense under a new OC
will be worse not better?

As all the other threads on Dak, all the yards and points are great and a credit to both Moore and Dak.....but between them our kryptonite ALWAYS seems to be we can't work out against in game adversity. As soon as the O-Line struggles, WR's can't get open or RB's can't make short 3rd downs we struggle and can't activate a Plan B.
Dak's going nowhere so need a different OC as this will for once and for all give us exactly where what Dak's capable of and where he's the one to take us all the way (or indeed he's next out the door).