2 Questions For the Zoners Who Want to Let Moore Go

[Captain-Crash]

Daks 50 yard field he built in his backyard reflects possibly the level of understanding of the game he possesses.
About 50 percent.
Dak would have dominated in Arena league play.

until some guy hit him and he goes into shell shock. The mouthbreathing would have fogged up his mask too.
Maybe dak just needs some rainX to keep his facemask from fogging up when he starts breathing hard from fear. Dang, that's the problem, I think I just fixed dak.
rainX for fear.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

Beating the Bucs meant nothing; they were a lousy team
But when he came up against it in the playoffs vs a good team in two years he came up small
All flash and no substance when it mattered
The last series in the game last year was beyond pathetic.

Are you referring to Dak?

 

[CowboyFrog]

So the offense that has been #2 in the league in scoring in the period I mentioned needs to be updated why? What is your bar for the OC....#1 in scoring?

But cant you make the same argument for the QB, again thats how this sounds, KM to you gets credit for the regular season offense yet Dak is a problem. The actual truth is without Dak KM's scheme has not worked in the regular season and neither KM nor Dak has gotten it done in the divisional round.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I blame Cooper Rush for making it look so simple.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

I fixed all your errors and its IRONIC i can substitute one name for the other and its still makes nice debate in your same thought process. how can one be so great and the other not be LOL

For all the people who want to ditch DAK, help me understand. If you drop the Andy Dalton year, the last 3 years the Cowboys have been 4th,
1st and 6th in scoring. For those 3 years combined, the Cowboys are 2nd in scoring only behind KC.
The QB accomplished this with a OC that everyone but those completely in the tank for OC agrees has fatal limitations, torpedoed
our post season this year with Bad play calls, NO RUn game, and ended our post season last year with the stupidest in game decision I've seen since.....well ever.

Seems like the obvious problem is the OC not the QB, and if anything this OC has over achieved.

My 2 questions to the legion of Zoners who want to ditch DAK are:
1. Given OCs liabilities, what exactly do you think a new QB will realistically accomplish that Dak hasn't already accomplished?
2. Given how prolific a Dak Led offenses have been compared to those of other QBs, do you realize it's likely that any offense under a new QB
will be worse not better?

You seem to have forgotten about Dak's disastrous picks that torpedoed us in the SF game.

 

[BigD_95]

For all the people who want to ditch Moore, help me understand. If you drop the Andy Dalton year, the last 3 years the Cowboys have been 4th,
1st and 6th in scoring. For those 3 years combined, the Cowboys are 2nd in scoring only behind KC.
The OC accomplished this with a QB that everyone but those completely in the tank for Dak agrees has fatal limitations, torpedoed
our post season this year with turnovers, and ended our post season last year with the stupidest in game decision I've seen since.....well ever.

Seems like the obvious problem is the QB not the OC, and if anything this OC has over achieved.

My 2 questions to the legion of Zoners who want to ditch Moore are:
1. Given Dak's liabilities, what exactly do you think a new OC will realistically accomplish that Moore hasn't already accomplished?
2. Given how profilic Moore's offenses have been compared to those of other OC's, do you realize it's likely that any offense under a new OC
will be worse not better?

I do not care about stats. We aren’t the number 1 offense against good teams. I rather have an OC that can game plan and know how to get our players the ball and score when needed.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

You can tell who doesn't know what they are talking about by their comments defending Moore.

Seriously guys, sit down one day and just watch the route concepts that Moore calls and tell me that didn't make it hard on receivers and QBs. Watch film and concentrate on any receiver running a route and give your analysis.

This sounds like another word salad post. So this has been the #2 scoring offense in the entire league during the period I cited, but somehow you have deemed the route concepts as being a problem. OK.

 

[IslandCowboy]

You wrote down the issue w Moore yourself. He can’t get the most out of Dak. Period. Somebody else needs to try.

How do you know Dak has more to give?

 

[JBS]

Of course. We could have an offense that doesn't even make the playoffs.

Lololol. You are brilliant

 

[CowboyFrog]

How do you know Dak has more to give?

You dont, but your options are dictating the desicions you make, you move on from Dak and probably lose this Defense in the process or you change the OC and restructure as little as possible and see if you can change the outcome. I dont want to see this Defense blown up yet but thats just because i have little faith this FO will build another D like this in 2 years.

 

[cowboyec]

IMO- The offense we've had here for years is not simple. It’s just outdated. I mean Tom Landry’s offense in the 70s was fairly complicated. But it’s now out dated. I think that’s true about Moore’s offense.

i'd rather have landry's offense.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

I do not care about stats. We aren’t the number 1 offense against good teams. I rather have an OC that can game plan and know how to get our players the ball and score when needed.

And you think the failures are all due to the OC who designed the #2 scoring offense?

 

[BoyzBlaster]

But cant you make the same argument for the QB, again thats how this sounds, KM to you gets credit for the regular season offense yet Dak is a problem. The actual truth is without Dak KM's scheme has not worked in the regular season and neither KM nor Dak has gotten it done in the divisional round.

The difference is that the season ending picks this year were 100% on Dak. There's no debating that.

 

[CowboyFrog]

And you think the failures are all due to the OC who designed the #2 scoring offense?

Your trying to force a "Dak or KM" desicion when in context there literally is not one to make, again you move on from Dak and the cap hits will force KM to play with players that make his offense not good for several years AND you probably gut this defense. So in hindsight you go rebuild and KM is gone anyway.... or you change your OC Keep this defense and see if that scheme change can help get this "DEFENSIVE" team over the hump..then blow it up if it doesnt work and your basically in the same place if you move on from Dak now.

 

[blueblood70]

You seem to have forgotten about Dak's disastrous picks that torpedoed us in the SF game.

NOPE not torpedo, part of the total loss , yes

However, many other factors lost us a shot at a 7 points deficit,

you dont get it ,do you??

i corrected those on purpose, to see the more praise you give MOORE says Daks a great qb

without Dak ,moores not successful lol the more you push more you are also crediting Dak even thought your intentions is the opposite LOL

the easiest path to change is the OC being replaced, Daks contract and NT clause, dead cap money etc can NOT BE changed as of yet.

so if you approve of Moore's success with our ranked offenses you have to say that about dak as well.

so stand pat?

NEXT

 

[cowboyec]

dak is a good QB we can win with.
its time for a new oc who doesn't abandon the run game the first sign of trouble.
lean on the run more...reign in the gunsling'n.
ipso-fatso.....solved.

 

[cowboyec]

The difference is that the season ending picks this year were 100% on Dak. There's no debating that.

which is why you need an oc who won't abandon the run...and reign in the gunsling'n.

 

[CowboyFrog]

The difference is that the season ending picks this year were 100% on Dak. There's no debating that.

Ok, that doesnt change your options, again you only have a select few levers to pull this off season... and anything involving moving on from Dak will most likley result in losing key players on the defense. Im not saying "KM is the reason Dak failed", I'm saying the most logical lever you can pull is switching who is in Dak's ear and seeing if that changes the outcome...IF it doesnt you move on from Dak the next year and your literally in the same position you would be moving on from him this year.

 

[75boyz]

For all the people who want to ditch Moore, help me understand. If you drop the Andy Dalton year, the last 3 years the Cowboys have been 4th,
1st and 6th in scoring. For those 3 years combined, the Cowboys are 2nd in scoring only behind KC.
The OC accomplished this with a QB that everyone but those completely in the tank for Dak agrees has fatal limitations, torpedoed
our post season this year with turnovers, and ended our post season last year with the stupidest in game decision I've seen since.....well ever.

Seems like the obvious problem is the QB not the OC, and if anything this OC has over achieved.

My 2 questions to the legion of Zoners who want to ditch Moore are:
1. Given Dak's liabilities, what exactly do you think a new OC will realistically accomplish that Moore hasn't already accomplished?
2. Given how profilic Moore's offenses have been compared to those of other OC's, do you realize it's likely that any offense under a new OC
will be worse not better?

Bro,
I definitely could not have said it any better. Great job.

I guess after reading over your facts I am guessing there are 2 schools of thought.

The obvious first are the Dak family members whose support group has shrunk but still stick to a delusional mentality that it must still be Kellen's fault because...well, they're confused. LOL

The other group acknowledge your truth in numbers post here but still believe Kellen's contribution somehow must be at partial blame because they are on the fence to blame it "all" at the QB's feet where it rightly belongs.

NO GM, HC, playcaller or supporting cast can fix this poor real time decision maker.

I repeat,
QB purgatory is real.
And ongoing.

 

[CowboyRoy]

For all the people who want to ditch Moore, help me understand. If you drop the Andy Dalton year, the last 3 years the Cowboys have been 4th,
1st and 6th in scoring. For those 3 years combined, the Cowboys are 2nd in scoring only behind KC.
The OC accomplished this with a QB that everyone but those completely in the tank for Dak agrees has fatal limitations, torpedoed
our post season this year with turnovers, and ended our post season last year with the stupidest in game decision I've seen since.....well ever.

Seems like the obvious problem is the QB not the OC, and if anything this OC has over achieved.

My 2 questions to the legion of Zoners who want to ditch Moore are:
1. Given Dak's liabilities, what exactly do you think a new OC will realistically accomplish that Moore hasn't already accomplished?
2. Given how profilic Moore's offenses have been compared to those of other OC's, do you realize it's likely that any offense under a new OC
will be worse not better?

Most of these people have no clue.

But in their defense Moore is the clown that sat pollard on the bench for 3.5 years in favor of zeke.