2 scenarios for Garrett

[ABQCOWBOY]

Because most of them use the same narrative that they're used to winning Super Bowls.

I would love to see any supporting proof of this opinion.

 

[Dre11]

Lots of players play. Doesn't mean they are good coaches in the NFL. Garrett was an assistant QB coach and then a QB coach in Miami. Saban was a crappy NFL coach. He became an OC with one year of assistant to the assistant experience and one year of being a QB coach for a crappy team. Who gets to become an OC with a resume like that?

But it was Jason's sharpness and knowledge while being a backup that helped and served as training. There was talk when he was a backup many believed he would be a coach, he was recommended by Aikman as a coach in Miami. It's easy to assume he took things he's learned from All his experiences under the coaches he's played for and the coach he coached under and applied it to his HC job.

 

[waving monkey]

Last season was a good time to be here. Some negative nellies completely quit posting last season while the team was winning.

yap their game was very weak almost my I say it cowardly

 

[waving monkey]

who said they were facts? its my opinion. it seems that way. why all of a sudden garrett would get rid of all his assistant coaches? that would be finger pointing on his part, which doesn't bode well culturally

being a grand homer the firings give Garrett another excuse for a poor season.I couldn't be happier

 

[waving monkey]

Yeah, no. Each of those games have been discussed to the point of exhaustion. I'm not going to restart all of that. That only serves to take the discussion off the focus of where it is now. If you don't know what those issues were, then I think you really shouldn't be trying to defend Garrett.

You can preach the success of Garrett tell the Cows come home but you are not going to convince anybody on this board because they are tired of waiting for the breakthrough. 12 wins, 2 division titles and only one playoff win, against 2 loses in 8 years. That's where your "asinine" ends up hanging out in the wind.

I'm jsut happy Garrett is still here

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

But it was Jason's sharpness and knowledge while being a backup that helped and served as training. There was talk when he was a backup many believed he would be a coach, he was recommended by Aikman as a coach in Miami. It's easy to assume he took things he's learned from All his experiences under the coaches he's played for and the coach he coached under and applied it to his HC job.

That's what everybody is trying to tell you. Jason's "sharpnees and knowledge" of being a backup QB is not good training for HC.

Being a backup QB is not a substitute for actual coaching experience.

 

[Proof]

How so? McVay came up through the ranks. He started in 2008 with Tampa. He then coached TEs in the UFL. He then became TEs coach in Washington. He then got promoted to OC in Washington. He got the HC gig last year with the Rams. That's 9 years of coaching professionally.

Garrett was a QB Coach with Miami and two years later, he was made the OC in Dallas. A couple of season later he was named HC. I mean, that's very little experience, in terms of what other HCs have had, prior to getting a HC gig in the NFL.

I honed in on no nfl experience considering Garrett actually played in the league. And playing for Jimmy and Parcells and coaching under Saban isn’t exactly something to scoff at. He also did the position coach thing. Sure it was shorter but his cowboys offense was a juggernaut. I wish it wasn’t the cowboys who signed him but considering he was being recruited every year it wasn’t unfounded

 

[Proof]

Didn’t see you guys had already had thus discussion.

 

[crashintonickdm]

Have to believe if he misses playoffs next year then he’s gone

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I honed in on no nfl experience considering Garrett actually played in the league. And playing for Jimmy and Parcells and coaching under Saban isn’t exactly something to scoff at. He also did the position coach thing. Sure it was shorter but his cowboys offense was a juggernaut. I wish it wasn’t the cowboys who signed him but considering he was being recruited every year it wasn’t unfounded

So are you saying that he had more experience the McVay? I mean, to me, it's not even close.

Vinny Testaverde was a much, much better QB then Garrett was. He played for Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Ray Perkins (who taught Parcells), Sam Wyche, Bill Belichick, Ted Marchibroda, Bill Parcells, Al Groh, Herm Edwards, and John Fox.

Vinny was much better and he played for an even more impressive list of Head Coaches, then did Garrett. Would you hire Vinny as our Next HC? I mean, I get what you are saying but who somebody plays for doesn't necessarily translate into being good experience for being an HC. We kinda talked ourselves into that because a lot of people thought that, as a player, he would be a good coach. The problem to me is that, while he probably could have become a decent HC, he never put in the time it takes as an actual position coach or coordinator, to become a great HC. That's just my opinion on it.

 

[Proof]

So are you saying that he had more experience the McVay? I mean, to me, it's not even close.

Vinny Testaverde was a much, much better QB then Garrett was. He played for Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Ray Perkins (who taught Parcells), Sam Wyche, Bill Belichick, Ted Marchibroda, Bill Parcells, Al Groh, Herm Edwards, and John Fox.

Vinny was much better and he played for an even more impressive list of Head Coaches, then did Garrett. Would you hire Vinny as our Next HC? I mean, I get what you are saying but who somebody plays for doesn't necessarily translate into being good experience for being an HC. We kinda talked ourselves into that because a lot of people thought that, as a player, he would be a good coach. The problem to me is that, while he probably could have become a decent HC, he never put in the time it takes as an actual position coach or coordinator, to become a great HC. That's just my opinion on it.

He sucks. I don’t care about Jason Garrett. You said no NFL experience which I disagreed with since Garrett has played in the league and now been in the league in some capacity nearly as long as McVays been alive lol. McVay had a couple more years as a position coach and less time as an OC before they respectively became HC’s. That’s all. But JG sucks and McVay seems awesome so who cares

 

[DFWJC]

You may be right.
Assuming Dak does not go down for the season, JG could see the door if the Cowboys arent playing this time (or later) next year.

I consider this the 3rd best team Garrett has had (behind 2014 and 2016) so not it is clearly the biggest non playoff fail.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He sucks. I don’t care about Jason Garrett. You said no NFL experience which I disagreed with since Garrett has played in the league and now been in the league in some capacity nearly as long as McVays been alive lol. McVay had a couple more years as a position coach and less time as an OC before they respectively became HC’s. That’s all. But JG sucks and McVay seems awesome so who cares

I think I actually stated little coaching experience but I understand what you are saying. I just don't think it's adequate experience for the HC. JMO

 

[Proof]

It’s not. And it becomes more apparent every year.

 

[CCBoy]

Change of support staff, isn't the proper course of action...if something isn't succeeding, then one should rationally change how business is being run.

If the boat is floundering at sea, say, December into the players...then it didn't start too strongly to begin with. Fight midgets in one's battle, and one might appear to be a Giant. Likeable isn't a term that develops a description of Giant team. One should beat the good teams...and then you are good.

C'mon...to expect the supporting staff to change the product of the head...is foolish at best. Stupid as a norm.

Legalize marijuana across the country...and then who cares?

 

[CowboyRoy]

There's no need to convince anybody, Garrett isn't going anywhere. Continuity is the method of choice by the FO, you either get on board or wallow in your misery, to upset the chemistry of the team now, as I said is asinine. Oh, since you have no decisions you would've made, means you have none.

If your not upset then you simply dont care enough. You're just a casual fan otherwise. And if your not a miserable Cowboys fan then I say again. You simply dont care enough. If you have the power to turn a blind eye and get used to ineptitude and mediocrity then by all means keep it up. Looks like your going to need that skill for a long time. Or if you know of some kind pill or therapy that can turn me into a fan like you then dont hold back. Clue the rest of us in on what you got. If you have a pill that will make me forget about the Cowboys and root for another team Ill take one of those also.

 

[CowboyRoy]

How so? McVay came up through the ranks. He started in 2008 with Tampa. He then coached TEs in the UFL. He then became TEs coach in Washington. He then got promoted to OC in Washington. He got the HC gig last year with the Rams. That's 9 years of coaching professionally.

Garrett was a QB Coach with Miami and two years later, he was made the OC in Dallas. A couple of season later he was named HC. I mean, that's very little experience, in terms of what other HCs have had, prior to getting a HC gig in the NFL.

Garrett hadnt even been a head coach in POP Warner football or even highschool when Jones gave him the job.

Without a doubt one of the worst, most risky, shot in the dark, piss in the wind, roll the dice, gambles Jones have EVER made. Why did he think Garrett had what it took to be a good head coach? With zero experience. The guy literally coached 3 years in the league and been given the head coaching job by Jones.

Garrett REALLY handed Jones a bag of goods. Talk about the big heist? Garrett pulled the wool over Jones eyes. He is probably still laughing about it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Backwards indeed...lol This guy is a hack. Mcvay starting coaching in 2008, before that he did practically nothing close to coaching, never played in the league. Garrett played under Jimmy,Norv,Coughlin,Gruden, and Saban. Coached under Saban and was coordinator here before becoming HC.

Ok so one guy got it right with McVay and the other guy was waaaaay off on Garrett.

 

[Dre11]

Ok so one guy got it right with McVay and the other guy was waaaaay off on Garrett.

Got it right?. ..lol he's been there a year. What a foolish statement

 

[Dre11]

If your not upset then you simply dont care enough. You're just a casual fan otherwise. And if your not a miserable Cowboys fan then I say again. You simply dont care enough. If you have the power to turn a blind eye and get used to ineptitude and mediocrity then by all means keep it up. Looks like your going to need that skill for a long time. Or if you know of some kind pill or therapy that can turn me into a fan like you then dont hold back. Clue the rest of us in on what you got. If you have a pill that will make me forget about the Cowboys and root for another team Ill take one of those also.

If you're that upset, you might want to look for another sport or team because then it isn't fun being a Cowboys fan, if you're that miserable then get help because it's not healthy. I choose to ride,die, and support my team through thick and then and when they break through, it will make it all that much sweeter. You continue to b* and complain about your team, while I continue to ride the wave.