2 scenarios for Garrett

Dre11

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Garrett hadnt even been a head coach in POP Warner football or even highschool when Jones gave him the job.

Without a doubt one of the worst, most risky, shot in the dark, piss in the wind, roll the dice, gambles Jones have EVER made. Why did he think Garrett had what it took to be a good head coach? With zero experience. The guy literally coached 3 years in the league and been given the head coaching job by Jones.

Garrett REALLY handed Jones a bag of goods. Talk about the big heist? Garrett pulled the wool over Jones eyes. He is probably still laughing about it.
Garrett hadnt even been a head coach in POP Warner football or even highschool when Jones gave him the job.

Without a doubt one of the worst, most risky, shot in the dark, piss in the wind, roll the dice, gambles Jones have EVER made. Why did he think Garrett had what it took to be a good head coach? With zero experience. The guy literally coached 3 years in the league and been given the head coaching job by Jones.

Garrett REALLY handed Jones a bag of goods. Talk about the big heist? Garrett pulled the wool over Jones eyes. He is probably still laughing about it.
You're wrong Garrett coach qb and was a coordinator who had pretty good success , plus he was one of the hottest candidate on the market
With at least one team that is perceived to have one of the best front offices in the league. McVay was a te coach and coordinator . So some pretty smart league people thought Garrett was ready despite his experience level.
 

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Perhaps for the rest of the league but I've never, ever felt like this was the case for Garrett. He's a .500 coach with 3 playoff appearances in 8 years and a playoff record of .333. If his head has not been on the chopping block before now, I don't see why it would be later. JMO


He was the coach of playoff teams in 2014 and 2016. When was the other time? Unless your counting 09 ( when he was OC).
 

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If you're that upset, you might want to look for another sport or team because then it isn't fun being a Cowboys fan, if you're that miserable then get help because it's not healthy. I choose to ride,die, and support my team through thick and then and when they break through, it will make it all that much sweeter. You continue to b* and complain about your team, while I continue to ride the wave.

Miserable fan buddy, not miserable person. You really are one dumb guy.
 

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You're wrong Garrett coach qb and was a coordinator who had pretty good success , plus he was one of the hottest candidate on the market
With at least one team that is perceived to have one of the best front offices in the league. McVay was a te coach and coordinator . So some pretty smart league people thought Garrett was ready despite his experience level.
Like is said. Zero head coaching experience. Lol...hottest candidate? Says who?

Looks like a very dumb person hired Garrett. Results speak for themselves.
 

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Not even close
If we succeed this year then great, and btw anything above 8-8 will be defined as 'success' henceforth
If things fall apart, Linehan and Marinelli will. E scapegoats
Garrett stays
You see this team going nowhere, I don't. This is a team that just came off of being 13-3 and while being disappointing, ended up 9-7 5-1 in the division after all that happen with suspensions and injuries. This is still a good team and to start over would be asinine
I think this is the exact logic jerry and Stephen are thinking. they know some upgrades are needed and they are pointing to assistant coaches. but if we stay relatively healthy and not go deep in the playoffs, I think they will make some changes. I don't think they will be happy with 1 and done.
 

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Like is said. Zero head coaching experience. Lol...hottest candidate? Says who?

Looks like a very dumb person hired Garrett. Results speak for themselves.
says the job offer he got from Baltimore at the time for more money.....two coaching job offers....in NFL that's pretty hot.
 

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He got a lot of talent, that's true. I will say this, the story behind McVay and Garrett are very different. McVay has been in the NFL as a coach for awhile and he's learned under some good people. Garrett basically got given the job with almost no NFL experience and that, to me at least, is a big part of the problem. JMO
john harbaugh went from special teams coach to head coach. there are few others like that. mcvay was an OC for one season exactly. prior he was assistant coach for couple of years.
 

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So are you saying that he had more experience the McVay? I mean, to me, it's not even close.

Vinny Testaverde was a much, much better QB then Garrett was. He played for Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Ray Perkins (who taught Parcells), Sam Wyche, Bill Belichick, Ted Marchibroda, Bill Parcells, Al Groh, Herm Edwards, and John Fox.

Vinny was much better and he played for an even more impressive list of Head Coaches, then did Garrett. Would you hire Vinny as our Next HC? I mean, I get what you are saying but who somebody plays for doesn't necessarily translate into being good experience for being an HC. We kinda talked ourselves into that because a lot of people thought that, as a player, he would be a good coach. The problem to me is that, while he probably could have become a decent HC, he never put in the time it takes as an actual position coach or coordinator, to become a great HC. That's just my opinion on it.

garrett was OC and produced top 5 offenses. testeverde never coached. so we won't know.
 

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says the job offer he got from Baltimore at the time for more money.....two coaching job offers....in NFL that's pretty hot.

That was 8 years ago buddy when his incompetence hadn't been fully exposed

He would not get another job as a HC if fired now
 

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That was 8 years ago buddy when his incompetence hadn't been fully exposed

He would not get another job as a HC if fired now

Who cares how long ago it happened, with all the retreads that get hired, I absolutely bet you a former COY would get hired if fired.
 

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Like is said. Zero head coaching experience. Lol...hottest candidate? Says who?

Looks like a very dumb person hired Garrett. Results speak for themselves.

How does the Great McVay look today, his high powered offense managed 13 points vs a week #6 seed Atlanta defense.
 

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Miserable fan buddy, not miserable person. You really are one dumb guy.
How dumb can one be? You're miserable watching the cowboys, you bi* and complain because you don't like the coach, yet you still subject yourself to the punishment, who's the dumb guy? ....lol
 

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Who cares how long ago it happened, with all the retreads that get hired, I absolutely bet you a former COY would get hired if fired.

I guess we won't know cause he ain't getting fired for another couple of years at least
 

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Lol...and it’s been 8years on Garrett. Figured out how bad he is yet?

Obviously some smarter people than you and I, who actually run the team says otherwise. No matter how you slice, the people running the show has more experience than you and I and this board combined.
 

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You are completely wrong. I see this team as really close. I see this team, right now, with enough talent to compete for a Championship, with a good coaching staff. The reason we were 9-7, IMO, is because of the coaches. Better coaching and we are in the playoffs IMO.

To me, asinine is trying to defend this Coaching Staff with all that we've seen, these past years. Three games we should have won if we just make better, smarter decisions. Those are what good coaches win you in a season. We win those games and we are 12 and 4. We win the Division and are looking at a 1st round bye. Without a good Coaching Staff, we are 9-7, out of the playoffs and planning for a pick in the middle of the pack in the next draft.

That's how I see it.

It just isn't right that you can only like a post only once
 

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says the job offer he got from Baltimore at the time for more money.....two coaching job offers....in NFL that's pretty hot.

Says who, you? Garrett would have been fired long ago if he got hired. Too bad they didnt hire him. We might of won something meaningful by now.

Garrett was never a hot anything.
 

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Obviously some smarter people than you and I, who actually run the team says otherwise. No matter how you slice, the people running the show has more experience than you and I and this board combined.

Some fool like you doesnt speak for me. The people that run this team are football idiots. Your hero's no doubt.
 

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Says who, you? Garrett would have been fired long ago if he got hired. Too bad they didnt hire him. We might of won something meaningful by now.

Garrett was never a hot anything.
this is not a hypothetical about him getting fired. the question was where was the market AT THE TIME for Garrett. FACT is that he had a job offer from Baltimore. end of discussion

your other assertion is a hypothetical as well. we might have gone through 2-3 coaches by now as we did right after Johnson. coach after coach, after coach. that's what history says about Jerry. what you have is a dream that this team would have won something without Garrett. what we have seen is chaos from past experience.
 
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