2024-25 College Football Thread

[gtb1943]

In fairness, Ole Miss beat up Duke but Duke was without their best player, the QB, who left.

Ole Miss had bad losses so meh

 

[Sydla]

Ole Miss had bad losses so meh

Exactly I was just pointing out that the two other teams the SEC fan boys said should have been in the playoffs - SC and Bama - lost in their bowls.

 

[atlantacowboy]

In fairness, Ole Miss beat up Duke but Duke was without their best player, the QB, who left.

Duke has no one to blame but themselves. They pushed him out when they signed Darrien Mensah to the richest NIL deal in history. If it makes you feel any better Ole miss was without their best WR and lost16 players to the transfer portal. Duke lost 6 guys to transfer portal. Neither team was at regular season strength.

 

[reddyuta]

I will say i have watched more college football than ever this season because finally we have a true playoffs .

 

[Sydla]

Duke has no one to blame but themselves. They pushed him out when they signed Darrien Mensah to the richest NIL deal in history. If it makes you feel any better Ole miss was without their best WR and lost16 players to the transfer portal. Duke lost 6 guys to transfer portal. Neither team was at regular season strength.

And with a full roster lost to a bottom feeding UK team and then when they had the playoffs in their grasp lost to a mediocre UF team at the end of the year.

The SEC fan boys can rant and rave all they want but Ole Miss didn’t belong and beating Duke doesn’t change that math.

 

[atlantacowboy]

And with a full roster lost to a bottom feeding UK team and then when they had the playoffs in their grasp lost to a mediocre UF team at the end of the year.

The SEC fan boys can rant and rave all they want but Ole Miss didn’t belong and beating Duke doesn’t change that math.

I'm not making the argument that Ole Miss should be in the playoff. I'm saying Duke wasn't the only team missing players in the game. Keep up.

 

[gtb1943]

I'm not making the argument that Ole Miss should be in the playoff. I'm saying Duke wasn't the only team missing players in the game. Keep up.

no one believes you when the SEC is involved.
Keep up

 

[Sydla]

I'm not making the argument that Ole Miss should be in the playoff. I'm saying Duke wasn't the only team missing players in the game. Keep up.

Ehh you are kind of insinuating that they get hosed in the playoffs.

Bama seems to be your biggest gripe but again they just lost to UM and when they also could have locked up the playoffs they got manhandled by a mediocre Oklahoma team that lost to Navy. So Bama doesn't have much of a claim either. They had the playoffs in their grasp and pissed down their leg.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Ehh you are kind of insinuating that they get hosed in the playoffs.

Bama seems to be your biggest gripe but again they just lost to UM and when they also could have locked up the playoffs they got manhandled by a mediocre Oklahoma team that lost to Navy. So Bama doesn't have much of a claim either. They had the playoffs in their grasp and pissed down their leg.

I want the CFP to follow their own poll. Thats my gripe. If Michigan was in the 11th spot, i'd be saying Michigan instead of Alabama.

 

[Sydla]

I want the CFP to follow their own poll. Thats my gripe. If Michigan was in the 11th spot, i'd be saying Michigan instead of Alabama.

They couldn't because the parameters given to them by the conferences (including the SEC Conference Head) and the Notre Dame AD required them to take certain conference champs. After those conference champs were included, they followed the rankings to pick the remaining college playoff teams.

Again, no one to blame here but Alabama. Prior to their Week 13 loss to a mediocre OU team, they were 7th, right in front of SMU. If they had just taken care of business they would have stayed in the Top 7 and been an at large lock. You continually ignore the fact that it wasn't like they lost to the #1 team in Week 13, they lost to a really mediocre OU team and worse than lose, they got absolutely embarrassed. Frankly, at the time, I thought they were lucky to have only fallen from 7 to 11. That was quite generous.

So now, the CFB didn't mess up The only entity that messed up was Alabama that got smoked by an OU team that they themselves should have smoked at the end of the year. You want to be angry or peeved or have an issue with something - have that with Alabama, not the selection committee.

 

[atlantacowboy]

They couldn't because the parameters given to them by the conferences (including the SEC Conference Head) and the Notre Dame AD required them to take certain conference champs. After those conference champs were included, they followed the rankings to pick the remaining college playoff teams.

Again, no one to blame here but Alabama. Prior to their Week 13 loss to a mediocre OU team, they were 7th, right in front of SMU. If they had just taken care of business they would have stayed in the Top 7 and been an at large lock. You continually ignore the fact that it wasn't like they lost to the #1 team in Week 13, they lost to a really mediocre OU team and worse than lose, they got absolutely embarrassed. Frankly, at the time, I thought they were lucky to have only fallen from 7 to 11. That was quite generous.

So now, the CFB didn't mess up The only entity that messed up was Alabama that got smoked by an OU team that they themselves should have smoked at the end of the year. You want to be angry or peeved or have an issue with something - have that with Alabama, not the selection committee.

I'm a UGA fan. FYI. I respect Alabama bc you have to but I don't care it its them or Michigan. I think the poll and the selection process are flawed, as you know.

 

[gtb1943]

I'm a UGA fan. FYI. I respect Alabama bc you have to but I don't care it its them or Michigan. I think the poll and the selection process are flawed, as you know.

all processes are flawed.
Giving so much cred to the SEC this year was a definite flaw

 

[Sydla]

I'm a UGA fan. FYI. I respect Alabama bc you have to but I don't care it its them or Michigan. I think the poll and the selection process are flawed, as you know.

Why does Bama have to be "respected"? They had three losses. They were firmly in the playoffs and controlled their own destiny and then got smoked by a mediocre OU team at the end of the year?

These teams aren't to be rewarded for what they did 5 years ago. They are to be rewarded based on this year and with the playoffs on the line, already having two losses, Bama spit the bit. They knew exactly what they had to and blew it. Why are we supposed to "respect" Bama and demand they be in the playoffs when they lost with the season on the line. And not just lose, get absolutely embarrassed by a mediocre OU team?

This is what I don't understand. Are we supposed to just ignore the fact they lost 3 games and that one of those losses came at the end of the year to a mediocre to bad opponent?

 

[atlantacowboy]

Why does Bama have to be "respected"? They had three losses. They were firmly in the playoffs and controlled their own destiny and then got smoked by a mediocre OU team at the end of the year?

These teams aren't to be rewarded for what they did 5 years ago. They are to be rewarded based on this year and with the playoffs on the line, already having two losses, Bama spit the bit. They knew exactly what they had to and blew it. Why are we supposed to "respect" Bama and demand they be in the playoffs when they lost with the season on the line. And not just lose, get absolutely embarrassed by a mediocre OU team?

This is what I don't understand. Are we supposed to just ignore the fact they lost 3 games and that one of those losses came at the end of the year to a mediocre to bad opponent?

In general, it's a program to be respected. geez You act like i'm a fan and i'm telling you i'm not but I respect the program.

 

[Sydla]

In general, it's a program to be respected. geez You act like i'm a fan and i'm telling you i'm not but I respect the program.

I am not acting like you are a fan, but you are clearly defensive of the conference overall and when it comes to teams being compared to teams from other conferences.

Should Alabama be respected for what they have accomplished over the last two decades? Sure. Should they have made the playoffs this year after losing to a mediocre OU at the end the year because of what they have accomplished over the last 20 years? Nope.

I find it peculiar you can't admit that Bama messed this up themselves and have no one to blame but themselves. Blaming the CFB committee is bizarre to me when you freaking get smoked by a mediocre team at the end of the season.

 

[gtb1943]

In general, it's a program to be respected. geez You act like i'm a fan and i'm telling you i'm not but I respect the program.

Respect can be lost as quickly as it is earned. Alabama lost it by its own failure.
Its called reality; try and live in it.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I am not acting like you are a fan, but you are clearly defensive of the conference overall and when it comes to teams being compared to teams from other conferences.

Should Alabama be respected for what they have accomplished over the last two decades? Sure. Should they have made the playoffs this year after losing to a mediocre OU at the end the year because of what they have accomplished over the last 20 years? Nope.

I find it peculiar you can't admit that Bama messed this up themselves and have no one to blame but themselves. Blaming the CFB committee is bizarre to me when you freaking get smoked by a mediocre team at the end of the season.

I think it should be pretty clear by now that neither of us is going to convince the other of anything. Next topic.

 

[triplets_93]

The College Football Playoff, scourge of bowl games? If anything, viewership has never been higher

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6044405/2025/01/07/college-football-bowl-games-viewership/

But while bowl viewership is trending upward, in-person attendance at many games has gone in the opposite direction.

The Gator Bowl, which attracted crowds of 50,000-plus for decades, had 31,290 in the stands for last week’s Ole Miss-Duke matchup. And the Holiday Bowl, which downsized this season to San Diego State’s Snapdragon Stadium, drew the smallest crowd (23,920) in the bowl’s 46-year history for a Syracuse-Washington State matchup.

“To make ends meet, you need to have respectable crowds, and every now and then a crowd like the Alamo Bowl (64,261) had,” said Gator Bowl President/CEO Greg McGarity. “If you don’t have at least one team within a six-hour drive, you’re going to struggle in attendance.”

Going forward, though, that might not affect bowls to the extent it does now.

All parties recognize that most non-CFP bowls are primarily television programs now, which may eventually require a different business model. All 41 bowls’ current contracts align with the CFP’s, which terminates with the 2025 season. ESPN has already reached a six-year extension with the CFP, but the other bowls’ deals will come up for renewal in the coming year. All but the Sun Bowl (CBS) and Holiday Bowl (Fox) have ESPN as a partner.

That network will have to decide how much it values the non-CFP bowls, which generally produce larger audiences than any of its non-NFL programming that airs over the holidays.

 

[gtb1943]

The College Football Playoff, scourge of bowl games? If anything, viewership has never been higher

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6044405/2025/01/07/college-football-bowl-games-viewership/

But while bowl viewership is trending upward, in-person attendance at many games has gone in the opposite direction.

The Gator Bowl, which attracted crowds of 50,000-plus for decades, had 31,290 in the stands for last week’s Ole Miss-Duke matchup. And the Holiday Bowl, which downsized this season to San Diego State’s Snapdragon Stadium, drew the smallest crowd (23,920) in the bowl’s 46-year history for a Syracuse-Washington State matchup.

“To make ends meet, you need to have respectable crowds, and every now and then a crowd like the Alamo Bowl (64,261) had,” said Gator Bowl President/CEO Greg McGarity. “If you don’t have at least one team within a six-hour drive, you’re going to struggle in attendance.”

Going forward, though, that might not affect bowls to the extent it does now.

All parties recognize that most non-CFP bowls are primarily television programs now, which may eventually require a different business model. All 41 bowls’ current contracts align with the CFP’s, which terminates with the 2025 season. ESPN has already reached a six-year extension with the CFP, but the other bowls’ deals will come up for renewal in the coming year. All but the Sun Bowl (CBS) and Holiday Bowl (Fox) have ESPN as a partner.

That network will have to decide how much it values the non-CFP bowls, which generally produce larger audiences than any of its non-NFL programming that airs over the holidays.

there are way too many bowls as it is

 

[jterrell]

The College Football Playoff, scourge of bowl games? If anything, viewership has never been higher

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6044405/2025/01/07/college-football-bowl-games-viewership/

But while bowl viewership is trending upward, in-person attendance at many games has gone in the opposite direction.

The Gator Bowl, which attracted crowds of 50,000-plus for decades, had 31,290 in the stands for last week’s Ole Miss-Duke matchup. And the Holiday Bowl, which downsized this season to San Diego State’s Snapdragon Stadium, drew the smallest crowd (23,920) in the bowl’s 46-year history for a Syracuse-Washington State matchup.

“To make ends meet, you need to have respectable crowds, and every now and then a crowd like the Alamo Bowl (64,261) had,” said Gator Bowl President/CEO Greg McGarity. “If you don’t have at least one team within a six-hour drive, you’re going to struggle in attendance.”

Going forward, though, that might not affect bowls to the extent it does now.

All parties recognize that most non-CFP bowls are primarily television programs now, which may eventually require a different business model. All 41 bowls’ current contracts align with the CFP’s, which terminates with the 2025 season. ESPN has already reached a six-year extension with the CFP, but the other bowls’ deals will come up for renewal in the coming year. All but the Sun Bowl (CBS) and Holiday Bowl (Fox) have ESPN as a partner.

That network will have to decide how much it values the non-CFP bowls, which generally produce larger audiences than any of its non-NFL programming that airs over the holidays.

easy fix. move CFP to 16 teams. Remove byes but have all 8 R1 games on campus.
attendance not an issue for those.

CFB attendance is often down to when students are on break or not. Tech sold out every home P4 game except when the students were away for Thanksgiving.
But travelling across country during a holiday is definitely going to damper totals.