CFZ A bold roster strategy I would support

[morasp]

The idea in general isn't bad but who is the QB you're going after? Is there a Joe Burrow type QB coming out next year or are there a bunch of Kenny Picketts like in 2022? If the latter I don't support the idea at all. Also, who are the WRs coming out is there a pro bowl caliber one coming out?

 

[America's Cowboy]

They could also be the total opposite too. After all aren't they the ones who built the current team that has been to the playoffs 3 years straight.

Yes, WITH THE CURRENT PLAYMAKERS. They got lucky with Dak late in the 4th and CeeDee and Micah sliding down to them. It doesn't mean such luck will happen again. This front office has MISSED way more than it has HIT in the draft over the past 30 years after Jimmy Johnson left.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What are you afraid of losing out on? Those 8-10 years you are afraid of is already what we have endured for nearly 30 years keeping the status quo. Frankly, I'd rather fail trying something new than keep repeating already failed methods.

You call three-peat 12-5 playoff seasons FAILED METHODS??? Who are you kidding with this nonsense?

 

[America's Cowboy]

now I know its a great idea

Your way has always been a total bust.

 

[America's Cowboy]

No, I don’t think we are.

But to some fans if we aren’t having anymore success in playoffs they don’t care if it bust.

Then they are losers. Plain giving up losers.

 

[Diehardblues]

Then they are losers. Plain giving up losers.

Some think we already are without more playoff success.

 

[Diehardblues]

You call three-peat 12-5 playoff seasons FAILED METHODS??? Who are you kidding with this nonsense?

Without more success in the playoffs surely we can see how many would be frustrated and not believing in holding this core together .

If you believe in it though you’re going to feel much differently.

 

[Rayman70]

Jerry thinks hes foolin all of us. We are in a soft rebuild and hes lyin. We got eyes. Why not do a full rebuild? Im in on that.

 

[Diehardblues]

Why should we keep giving chances to the same group that have failed again and again in the past?
Those afraid to change keep saying what about next year. I say enough wait until next season is over and do it now
Get what you can while you can and rebuild

Some fans don’t see this as losing. Instead are calling it 3-peat 12 win seasons. Which sounds like they believe in this core.

 

[1942willys]

Some fans don’t see this as losing. Instead are calling it 3-peat 12 win seasons. Which sounds like they believe in this core.

Participation Trophies. Nothing more

 

[Diehardblues]

Jerry thinks hes foolin all of us. We are in a soft rebuild and hes lyin. We got eyes. Why not do a full rebuild? Im in on that.

Apparently like many fans after 3-peat 12 win seasons , Jethro believes he’s too close to start over or a total rebuild.

 

[Diehardblues]

Participation Trophies. Nothing more

We have to admit in 21st Century this appears to be one of the best teams our dysfunctional ownership has built.

Regardless whether we believe in this team and core of stars I think most can see why they’d stick with them as 12 win seasons even with early exits in playoffs is not bad for them.

 

[john van brocklin]

Let me say right off the bat, what I’m about to suggest will never happen. Why? Because Jerry Jones no longer takes big risks in attempts to build a championship roster. In fact, sadly Jerry and Stephen clearly make sales and marketing the centerpiece of what drives this organization more than sound roster moves that give us better chances of winning playoff games.

Most fans around here probably would not support my roster plan either. And I understand that. But I believe this is the way to make this team better in the long run. So what is the roster building strategy I would support? Here it is:

• Make 2024 an aggressive rebuild. Simply put, if we are being honest, there is no core of this team that has done anything important in the playoffs. Yes, the last 3 years have given us 3 playoff appearances, BUT…that has resulted in 1 wild card win. That’s not worth building around IMO.
• Seek trades for Cedee Lamb, Micah Parsons, Dak, Zack Martin and D-Law. Having all these top paid guys (Lamb and Parsons will be soon) collectively have given us 3 wild card wins - one back when Romo was QB. Here’s my thinking on this:
  • Trade Cedee Lamb- why? Yes Lamb deserves a big payday. But I would not pay him top market dollar because keeping him here at top market value does not make this team better. It keeps it the same. He has disappeared at times in big games and pouts way too easily. I would see if we could get a first round pick for him.
  • Trade Micah Parsons- I would think long and hard about paying this guy top of the defensive market. Not because of talent. He’s the most talented guy on this team. But he’s also the biggest head case on this team. Hate to say it, he disappears in big games, pouts and talks waaaay too much. Trade him while his value is high. He might garner a first and a second round pick.
  • Trade Dak Prescott- I know the Jones boys don’t have the stones to do this but I would be vigorously seeking trade partners right now for Dak. They should have shopped him to Pitts because I think Dak would have agreed to that trade. That “no trade clause” just means they need to find a team he would like. It may be too late now.
  • See what trading Zack Martin, Trevon Diggs and D-Law could garner- doubtful there would be much value for Martin and Law at their age but I would explore it. Diggs maybe.
• Use the haul in draft picks for a rebuild of the core of this team.
  • Draft a QB in the first round for a change.
  • Draft a LT, G/C, WR and edge rusher the next two years that you can build around.

As stated earlier, the current core of this team has not given us much of anything in playoff wins. Isn’t that what we are supposed to be about? Winning playoff games? Like I said at the beginning, this will never happen. The Jones boys are mostly about sales and marketing. This is why they sign their “marquee” players whether or not having them means we have a legit shot at a Lombardi.

IMO it is long past the time to move on from this core of players who have underachieved. A new era of Cowboys football should be in the making. Don‘t hold your breath. There are jerseys and commercials to sell first.

Trade Parsons
His value is as a DE, and he's too small to hold up for the long haul.

 

[Aven8]

Why not? Can you imagine our WR corps without him?

It sounds like you don't want to pay anyone a second contract, except, what, QB, LT, and Edge rusher? The league looks at WRs differently. Look at how many WRs go in the first round every year now.

Right. I’m keeping Diggs, Micah, and Lamb. Lamb would be a rookie QB’s best friend.

Without Lamb we have no offense last year or for this year. The kid has done nothing but get better and better and is not a diva.

 

[JPostSam]

Let me say right off the bat, what I’m about to suggest will never happen. Why? Because Jerry Jones no longer takes big risks in attempts to build a championship roster. In fact, sadly Jerry and Stephen clearly make sales and marketing the centerpiece of what drives this organization more than sound roster moves that give us better chances of winning playoff games.

Most fans around here probably would not support my roster plan either. And I understand that. But I believe this is the way to make this team better in the long run. So what is the roster building strategy I would support? Here it is:

• Make 2024 an aggressive rebuild. Simply put, if we are being honest, there is no core of this team that has done anything important in the playoffs. Yes, the last 3 years have given us 3 playoff appearances, BUT…that has resulted in 1 wild card win. That’s not worth building around IMO.
• Seek trades for Cedee Lamb, Micah Parsons, Dak, Zack Martin and D-Law. Having all these top paid guys (Lamb and Parsons will be soon) collectively have given us 3 wild card wins - one back when Romo was QB. Here’s my thinking on this:
  • Trade Cedee Lamb- why? Yes Lamb deserves a big payday. But I would not pay him top market dollar because keeping him here at top market value does not make this team better. It keeps it the same. He has disappeared at times in big games and pouts way too easily. I would see if we could get a first round pick for him.
  • Trade Micah Parsons- I would think long and hard about paying this guy top of the defensive market. Not because of talent. He’s the most talented guy on this team. But he’s also the biggest head case on this team. Hate to say it, he disappears in big games, pouts and talks waaaay too much. Trade him while his value is high. He might garner a first and a second round pick.
  • Trade Dak Prescott- I know the Jones boys don’t have the stones to do this but I would be vigorously seeking trade partners right now for Dak. They should have shopped him to Pitts because I think Dak would have agreed to that trade. That “no trade clause” just means they need to find a team he would like. It may be too late now.
  • See what trading Zack Martin, Trevon Diggs and D-Law could garner- doubtful there would be much value for Martin and Law at their age but I would explore it. Diggs maybe.
• Use the haul in draft picks for a rebuild of the core of this team.
  • Draft a QB in the first round for a change.
  • Draft a LT, G/C, WR and edge rusher the next two years that you can build around.

As stated earlier, the current core of this team has not given us much of anything in playoff wins. Isn’t that what we are supposed to be about? Winning playoff games? Like I said at the beginning, this will never happen. The Jones boys are mostly about sales and marketing. This is why they sign their “marquee” players whether or not having them means we have a legit shot at a Lombardi.

IMO it is long past the time to move on from this core of players who have underachieved. A new era of Cowboys football should be in the making. Don‘t hold your breath. There are jerseys and commercials to sell first.

you don’t do this unless you have a new coach and a high draft pick in the first round so you can take (what you hope is) your new franchise quarterback.

you can’t tell the fans, and the players and the coaches, that there’s nothing to play for this year unless everyone is on the same same page about a total rebuild.

 

[1942willys]

We have to admit in 21st Century this appears to be one of the best teams our dysfunctional ownership has built.

Regardless whether we believe in this team and core of stars I think most can see why they’d stick with them as 12 win seasons even with early exits in playoffs is not bad for them.

Jerry and company are RELEVANT and that is all they really need

 

[GMO415]

Let me say right off the bat, what I’m about to suggest will never happen. Why? Because Jerry Jones no longer takes big risks in attempts to build a championship roster. In fact, sadly Jerry and Stephen clearly make sales and marketing the centerpiece of what drives this organization more than sound roster moves that give us better chances of winning playoff games.

Most fans around here probably would not support my roster plan either. And I understand that. But I believe this is the way to make this team better in the long run. So what is the roster building strategy I would support? Here it is:

• Make 2024 an aggressive rebuild. Simply put, if we are being honest, there is no core of this team that has done anything important in the playoffs. Yes, the last 3 years have given us 3 playoff appearances, BUT…that has resulted in 1 wild card win. That’s not worth building around IMO.
• Seek trades for Cedee Lamb, Micah Parsons, Dak, Zack Martin and D-Law. Having all these top paid guys (Lamb and Parsons will be soon) collectively have given us 3 wild card wins - one back when Romo was QB. Here’s my thinking on this:
  • Trade Cedee Lamb- why? Yes Lamb deserves a big payday. But I would not pay him top market dollar because keeping him here at top market value does not make this team better. It keeps it the same. He has disappeared at times in big games and pouts way too easily. I would see if we could get a first round pick for him.
  • Trade Micah Parsons- I would think long and hard about paying this guy top of the defensive market. Not because of talent. He’s the most talented guy on this team. But he’s also the biggest head case on this team. Hate to say it, he disappears in big games, pouts and talks waaaay too much. Trade him while his value is high. He might garner a first and a second round pick.
  • Trade Dak Prescott- I know the Jones boys don’t have the stones to do this but I would be vigorously seeking trade partners right now for Dak. They should have shopped him to Pitts because I think Dak would have agreed to that trade. That “no trade clause” just means they need to find a team he would like. It may be too late now.
  • See what trading Zack Martin, Trevon Diggs and D-Law could garner- doubtful there would be much value for Martin and Law at their age but I would explore it. Diggs maybe.
• Use the haul in draft picks for a rebuild of the core of this team.
  • Draft a QB in the first round for a change.
  • Draft a LT, G/C, WR and edge rusher the next two years that you can build around.

As stated earlier, the current core of this team has not given us much of anything in playoff wins. Isn’t that what we are supposed to be about? Winning playoff games? Like I said at the beginning, this will never happen. The Jones boys are mostly about sales and marketing. This is why they sign their “marquee” players whether or not having them means we have a legit shot at a Lombardi.

IMO it is long past the time to move on from this core of players who have underachieved. A new era of Cowboys football should be in the making. Don‘t hold your breath. There are jerseys and commercials to sell first.

Bullet, agreed time for a fire sale

 

[conner01]

I understand Dak, because he's had enough chances and has proven he can't get it done. I understand guys like DLaw, because he's older. (Plus he's very tired.)

But why do people want to get rid of CeeDee? I don't get it. He's a stud at one of the most coveted positions in the league, and he's still young.

Trading older guys, avg guys or guys you can’t afford to keep when they play out is the guys you trade. You keep the elite so you have those guys to compliment the young guys you add

 

[DandyDon52]

Dandy I’m with you on this except one area. I think Bill Belechick is done. He’s mid 70s by next season and he lacks the energy needed for a rebuild at that age. Plus as long as Jerry is breathing he will never allow a HC to upstage him.

I do like your idea of getting a HC who has the ability to command respect and is also innovative. Mike McCarthy is way better than Garrett ever was but I believe he is no longer innovative. He is liked by the players but I think it’s for the wrong reasons. He’s not as demanding as this team needs. The absolute softest culture in the NFL needs a tougher HC. But the Jones boys won’t allow it.

yeah bill could be done, but he could still be good.
he will have had a year off now, that is good.

Jimmy thinks Bill isnt done, but many others do. Also Bill wants more than any other coach if he still wants 20 mil a year,
so he must still think he is good.
I think leaving NE for a new team is what he needed.

I think it would be worth 2-3 years to kick the tires on him, heck even 1 year and just see what the team looks like after a
year with him.

If he had good players on defense, the team would be awesome with bill as he is a defensive minded HC.
I would like to see how he would use parsons.
Now that teams know parsons, they can neutralize him, and cowboys have lacked the innovation to use him in a effective manner.

I think some team will hire him ,( he may have to lower his salary) and then I guess we find out.

NE was always well prepared team, didnt make a lot of mistakes, and were innovative and disciplined.
The last 2 years with brady, and after brady. they just didnt have enough talent to be good.
That is why brady left, he saw it was not a team that could win SB's
Then not having brady made it even worse.

And I think he would give dak the best chance to succeed. Good defense, and innovative on offense, get the most out of parsons,
and maybe get parsons to act better talk less.

 

[McKDaddy]

I understand Dak, because he's had enough chances and has proven he can't get it done. I understand guys like DLaw, because he's older. (Plus he's very tired.)

But why do people want to get rid of CeeDee? I don't get it. He's a stud at one of the most coveted positions in the league, and he's still young.

CeeDee is a stud no doubt. But without a QB who can deliver, having a top WR isn't that important plus it's maybe the most plentiful position to draft quality replacements. Plus we'll just be wasting his career if he stays in Big D.