A Touch of Hostility...Week 10

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Ozzu;3080954 said:
Jumping off a bridge at the first hint of adversity isn't being realistic. You're just the other end of the spectrum from blind homers.

Where have I jumped off this supposed bridge? Where have I said I have given up on this season?

I've said I'll hope against hope that something changes among our coaches changes or that our talent is enough to overcome their shortcomings. I'm simply calling a spade a spade: Jason Garrett is incapable of adjusting and Wade Phillips is doing here what he has done everywhere else he has been, namely underachieve and have teams that look unprepared.
 

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The30YardSlant;3080978 said:
I know you do, thus my question
My answer stands. You wouldn't know reality if if landed on your face and wiggled.
 

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The loss of Columbo is by far the worst part of today. That's far more damaging than the loss of this game.

Depending on how long Jenkins is out, and I haven't heard on that yet, that could be very damaging to us as well.
 

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Hostile;3080461 said:
I may be in the minority, but I consider the loss of Columbo and Jenkins to be far bigger than losing the game. I will be watching for news of them all week and wondering. We had been sort of blessed with no big injuries and just like that, two in one game. That hurts.

Look, I said last week we would lose again and there wouldn't be any need to over react. It still holds true. It is hard in the NFL to win back to back game on the road in big situations. On the positive side (yes, there is one) the Eagles also lost so we maintain our lead in the Division. That is the big picture at this point.

Turnovers and time of possession. We lost these key indicator stats. Three turnovers to zero and a nearly 12 minute deficit in the Offense holding the ball. You can't win in the NFL with those kinds of stats unless you get stupid lucky. When you add double digit penalties to the mix, you might as well look to next week's games because this week is gonna suck.

It sucks to lose. No one who is a fan likes it. But if we had to lose one of these two games, I will choose this one over the Eagles to lose every day of the week and every year.

It is hard to come up with anything positive from this game. About the only thing I can say positive is that DeMarcus Ware got two more sacks and is in top form going into the stretch run. We're going to need him.

I've grown accustomed to the over reactions to losses. I don't know whether that is good or bad. This week there are reasons to be upset because for the first time all year the team truly did not do anything that put them in position to win the game.

Like I said, we're still atop the NFC East. The big picture should still outweigh a bad week, but it won't.

...this team just does'nt have the horses...2 minutes short of being a shutout?...i think you better go back and look at how many teams scored less than 15 points against Green Bay...unless of course the gold standard in Dallas is that of the Detroit Lions...

...if this is what the Dallas offense looks like with Austin doubled then they need to burn the playbook cause that garbage today was'nt even close...
 

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Hostile;3080966 said:
What realists? I totally reject that self applied label as hogwash.


Agreed.

I predicted before the start of the season we'd go 9-7 or 10-6. As a result, the "realists" have placed me in the "idealist" camp, or "shrill" camp, or whatever there new label for the other side is.

So clearly, the "realists" have us predicted as 8-8 AT BEST.

We have the Commanders next week. And the Raiders the following week. Its going to be funny to see how "realistic" the self proclaimed realists will look at the end of the season. They better hope for a complete meltdown.
 

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Hostile;3080461 said:
I may be in the minority, but I consider the loss of Columbo and Jenkins to be far bigger than losing the game. I will be watching for news of them all week and wondering. We had been sort of blessed with no big injuries and just like that, two in one game. That hurts.

Look, I said last week we would lose again and there wouldn't be any need to over react. It still holds true. It is hard in the NFL to win back to back game on the road in big situations. On the positive side (yes, there is one) the Eagles also lost so we maintain our lead in the Division. That is the big picture at this point.

Turnovers and time of possession. We lost these key indicator stats. Three turnovers to zero and a nearly 12 minute deficit in the Offense holding the ball. You can't win in the NFL with those kinds of stats unless you get stupid lucky. When you add double digit penalties to the mix, you might as well look to next week's games because this week is gonna suck.

It sucks to lose. No one who is a fan likes it. But if we had to lose one of these two games, I will choose this one over the Eagles to lose every day of the week and every year.

It is hard to come up with anything positive from this game. About the only thing I can say positive is that DeMarcus Ware got two more sacks and is in top form going into the stretch run. We're going to need him.

I've grown accustomed to the over reactions to losses. I don't know whether that is good or bad. This week there are reasons to be upset because for the first time all year the team truly did not do anything that put them in position to win the game.

Like I said, we're still atop the NFC East. The big picture should still outweigh a bad week, but it won't.

im too upset over this loss right now to really comment; the officiating in this game stunk, and im talking officiating stunk worse then a skunk;
 

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kramskoi;3080990 said:
...this team just does'nt have the horses...2 minutes short of being a shutout?...i think you better go back and look at how many teams scored less than 15 points against Green Bay...unless of course the gold standard in Dallas is that of the Detroit Lions...

...if this is what the Dallas offense looks like with Austin doubled then they need to burn the playbook cause that garbage today was'nt even close...
And I think you better go back to the drawing board and use better hyperbole.
 

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The30YardSlant;3080953 said:
Find me one post where I have said I was satisfied with these coaches this season? Just one.

Stop lying, I've said the same thing all year about our coaches. I said I saw a difference in our players attitudes and demeanors.
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The30YardSlant said:
I've been very hard on this team and its coaches, and rightfully so. Two weeks ago, I said I was impressed but not ready to say this team was any different.

Well, tonight they proved me wrong on all fronts. This team is very different from the ones the last two years that crumped in the face of adversity. They are mentally and physically tough, and while there are still stupid penalties and mistakes, we finally have a group with the mindset to overcome them.

You won't hear anything negative from me again this season, because this team has gone out of their way to prove me wrong. I don't understand it, I have no idea how they changed their ways, but they did, and tonight they showed the entire nation what they are made of.

The pendulum swings again.
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Given how poorly this line played without a starting guard last year, it's hard to be optimistic about our chances after losing a right tackle. On the left side, Adams looks to be done, rushers were coming free all day from the blind side, he wasn't even close to stopping people on many downs.

Our offense was totally shut down by an above average defense that was somewhat depleted. Not sure what is going to change in the future, they took away Witten, Miles and Roy with ease, from an offensive perspective it felt like Philly in December all over again.

I feel for the defense.
 

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Hostile;3080985 said:
My answer stands. You wouldn't know reality if if landed on your face and wiggled.

Then please, explain it to me oh wise sage. We can yell back and forth all night, but I've presented, in several threads, my opinion on the matter in detail with football specifics from the game. I'd enjoy hearing your counter to it. Everytime we lose, you always remind of this guy...

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Vintage;3080994 said:
Agreed.

I predicted before the start of the season we'd go 9-7 or 10-6. As a result, the "realists" have placed me in the "idealist" camp, or "shrill" camp, or whatever there new label for the other side is.

So clearly, the "realists" have us predicted as 8-8 AT BEST.

We have the Commanders next week. And the Raiders the following week. Its going to be funny to see how "realistic" the self proclaimed realists will look at the end of the season. They better hope for a complete meltdown.
They absolutely do.

Look at the traffic counts after losses and wins. Telling.
 

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You're not in the minority, most everyone on the board will agree with just about everything you wrote. You will see the typical frustration that we always see in the hours after a loss (just like the euphoria after the wins), but all in all, everything that you said is correct.

The injuries are what really stings about this loss. Colombo is a really solid contributor. His name doesn't get mentioned much around these parts, and that's a good thing for an offensive lineman. I think Free can fill in, but this really hurts our depth.

Jenkins was really having a great season, and I'm hoping this is a short term injury. Again, we have players who can step up, but it hurts the depth in our secondary. Notice how many times Green Bay went 4 and 5 wide on us during their 15 minute touchdown drive after Jenkins went down?

Next week we have a home divisional game against a bad Commanders team. If the Cowboys beat themselves (the Commanders certainly can't beat them) next week, then I might start reaching for the panic button.
 

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windward;3081000 said:
Ok.



The pendulum swings again.
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How in the blue hell does acknowledging one good game equate to me changing my opinion on the coaches? That entire post is in regards to ours players improved mental and physical toughness, which I still believe is there. The coaching against Philly wasnt exceptional by any stretch. It was better than we've come to expect, but we were relatively inept on offense for the final 3 quarters save a couple big plays.

I'd called our players for their lack of grit many times over the years, and said last week I would no longer do so because I can see a difference in them. I see no difference in our coaching.
 

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The30YardSlant;3080978 said:
I know you do, thus my question

Weren't you the same guy singing the team's praises last week about how we turned a corner? How are you a realist? Quite the opposite, you just sound like a knee-jerk fan.
 

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The30YardSlant;3081007 said:
Then please, explain it to me oh wise sage. We can yell back and forth all night, but I've presented, in several threads, my opinion on the matter in detail with football specifics from the game. I'd enjoy hearing your counter to it. Everytime we lose, you always remind of this guy...
The key is the words I bolded for you to emphasize. This game. This game does not define a season. No single game ever defines a season for any team while that season is still in motion. I repeat so that you will hopefully grasp it...any team. Not just the Dallas Cowboys.

That is the type of nonsensical crap that makes me totally dismiss the "realists" every time. You all started the season with your paltry predictions (of 5-11, 7-9, 8-8, and a few 9-7s) that won't come close to being true, yet you will spew I told you so's like a whale blowing from his spout.

You're a fake realist. It is a self appointed label that means nothing.

As for your picture, I have schooled you so many times on actual football discussions that it isn't funny. Deny that if you wish, but very few people take you seriously in a football discussion. That isn't my fault.
 

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Vintage;3080994 said:
Agreed.

I predicted before the start of the season we'd go 9-7 or 10-6. As a result, the "realists" have placed me in the "idealist" camp, or "shrill" camp, or whatever there new label for the other side is.

So clearly, the "realists" have us predicted as 8-8 AT BEST.

We have the Commanders next week. And the Raiders the following week. Its going to be funny to see how "realistic" the self proclaimed realists will look at the end of the season. They better hope for a complete meltdown.

I've said all along we would win between 8-10 games. I briefly thought we might win 11-12 if we could maintain our level of play from last week. Our players really showed me something against Philly, and that opinion has not changed after today. They are good enough to overcome our piss poor coaching at times. Today was a loss that ultimately falls at the feet of our coaches for not giving our players a chance to win.
 

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chuffly;3081034 said:
Weren't you the same guy singing the team's praises last week about how we turned a corner? How are you a realist? Quite the opposite, you just sound like a knee-jerk fan.
There's a song in my head about a farmer who had a dog. I forget the dog's name.
 

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kramskoi;3080990 said:
...if this is what the Dallas offense looks like with Austin doubled then they need to burn the playbook

This is the second week of that, it would seem. They also looked to have done a better job taking Witten out of the game in 3rd down situations. The drops were pretty pathetic as well, not much you can do about that in the game plan.
 

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The30YardSlant;3081030 said:
How in the blue hell does acknowledging one good game equate to me changing my opinion on the coaches? That entire post is in regards to ours players improved mental and physical toughness, which I still believe is there. The coaching against Philly wasnt exceptional by any stretch. It was better than we've come to expect, but we were relatively inept on offense for the final 3 quarters save a couple big plays.

I'd called our players for their lack of grit many times over the years, and said last week I would no longer do so because I can see a difference in them. I see no difference in our coaching.
Nice backtracking.

"You won't hear anything negative from me this season"

and then, today.
 
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