Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[NorthwestDallas40]

Hey how did Williams suddenly jump Randle?
Also McFadden is 29 and makes Demarco Murray look like Cal Ripkin.

Mcfadden is 27

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

i think his salary is guarantee after week one. so tech a "sore hamstring" could sideline him all season and he would still get paid. someone correct me if im wrong

See, e.g., Jay Ratliff

 

[Silver N Blue]

Looks like the rumor going around is that the Bucs offered their 2nd round pick for Peterson, which is like #35 overall I think. Only way we can top that is by offering our first round pick, #27 overall.

I think that is probably too step for our blood......................I think we go RB fairly high in the draft now, maybe Tavon Coleman in the 2nd round since there are questions about Ajayi's knee. Gurley and Gordon I think will both be gone by pick 27.

I don't think Coleman last that long anymore either.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Yep. And this is another reason I said I'm not against drafting two RBs in this draft. If we have a chance for Gordon or Gurley in the first, I have no problem with grabbing another good prospect in the 4th if one slips (Allen or Abadullah). Grab your starter and bring in a young quality backup to take the load off of him. With the emphasis we have on the run game, two RBs will be valuable. Think Charles and Davis/Foster and Tate.

Didn't this thread just go on for 100 pages about needing to draft defense?

 

[mattjames2010]

Didn't this thread just go on for 100 pages about needing to draft defense?

We can still draft defense, in the second and third. Not drafting a defensive player in the 4th isn't going to make or break our team.

 

[Doc50]

I only say giving up the farm because that looks like what it will take to get AP, just as I thought when this whole thing started. I've said it many times, if we can get AP for a fourth then go for it. I'm all for it. But that just ain't gonna happen.

If I had my druthers, the best thing that could have happened is Murray taking our offer. Notice, I did not say us matching the Eagles offer because I agree that that was too much for Murray. But he did not take that offer. The next, most fiscally responsible, thing to do is go get a rookie in a RB deep draft.

I think the rookie will be given every chance to be the "bellcow" in this offense. If he falters or McFadden flashes, then they will go with McFadden or Williams primarily. Is it a perfect plan? No. But it is the best option they have with Murray gone. AP is simply out of the range of what they want to give up.

Yeah, that sums it up pretty well.

It always comes down to the cap, which forces FO's to play the game wisely as well.

Can we get AD? -- Sure, but what is the cost to the rest of the roster?

Can we attempt to have more stars at the skill and flash positions than anyone else? -- Sure, but what about their backups when they get injured?

The good news is that our FO has already been there, done that, and consistently lost. They seem to have finally learned, and I for one don't want to ever see them go back to the previous unsound personnel decisions that kept us from being competitive for so long.

I'm not saying Jerry wouldn't make the same mistakes again or that he's grown up, but he's at least tired enough of losing to let Steven, Jason, et al call the shots.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Isn't that what he's been doing his entire career?

Yeah, but it was his first team. He was drafted there. And they were decent a few years.

He doesn't have time for a rebuilding project anymore, which is part of the reason I thought he would be a great fit in Dallas.

But he chose the money. I guessed he wanted a real shot at something other then money. Big guess I know. I guessed wrong, if this is the case. It may have been out of his hands though......

This is a "Sell Jerseys and tickets" and "get my money" move. What else will AP do in TB for the 2 years he has left?

 

[burmafrd]

I would be willing to part with our 3rd but nothing higher

 

[HardHittin'Witten]

So, 134 pages. Any actual news other than he's reinstated?

 

[yimyammer]

Looks like the rumor going around is that the Bucs offered their 2nd round pick for Peterson, which is like #35 overall I think. Only way we can top that is by offering our first round pick, #27 overall.

I think that is probably too step for our blood......................I think we go RB fairly high in the draft now, maybe Tavon Coleman in the 2nd round since there are questions about Ajayi's knee. Gurley and Gordon I think will both be gone by pick 27.

I'm calling those rumors BS and sticking with my prediction he'll get released or traded for a 4th (or less).

 

[phildadon86]

So, 134 pages. Any actual news other than he's reinstated?

Reinstated as of Friday

 

[MichaelValentino]

I still don't see how he improves the pass rush.

He doesn't. Bringing in Hardy, Lawrence's continued development in the weight room and with his position coaches, and finding a strong 1-tech to play alongside Crawford will improve the pass rush. So will having the opposition playing from behind and being forced to throw if the Cowboys offense is tearing it up. Would Gordon or Gurley - both of whom are unlikely to be available at 27 - improve the pass rush, or would any 2nd or 3rd round back? Would opposing defensive coaches see a more formidable offense, and one more difficult to gameplan for, with Peterson behind Romo or with the current collection of backs on the roster? I expect the coaches and scouts to work on the DL and secondary in the draft. But of all possible options at RB over the next two years who gives Dallas the greatest likelihood of winning the SB during Romo's twilight? That's the question I personally believe the FO is wrestling with. Who knows when the Cowboys will again have a franchise QB once Romo retires? It seems as though the Cowboys have a better chance at Peterson than they do at Gurley (which would require a trade-up). Gordon is also frequently mocked before pick 26. I'm in the camp that thinks Coleman, Ajayi or any other rookie would not help Romo get a ring more so than would Peterson. I would like to see the Cowboys braintrust get Peterson, draft primarily D and OL next week, and then focus the 2016-17 drafts on finding the future QB and featured RB that will mature with the OL and developing D to make a SB run in 5-6 years, after going all out to win Lombardi no. 6 next February.

 

[gmoney112]

So, 134 pages. Any actual news other than he's reinstated?

I laughed at this, thanks man.

WELCOME TO THE OFFSEASON.

 

[gmoney112]

I'm calling those rumors BS and sticking with my prediction he'll get released or traded for a 4th (or less).

They're not going to let AD go for a 4th, that's lunacy. He'll get released (because they're going to hold onto him until they get a "reasonable" offer, not a 4th), before they trade him for a 4th.

He's either going to get a high 3rd (Tampa?), a 2nd (a few teams, including us), or outright released.

People are drastically overvaluing 4th round picks. I wish I knew the stat offhand for how many flame out, I'd say close to 80%.

 

[Cowboys22]

They're not going to let AD go for a 4th, that's lunacy. He'll get released (because they're going to hold onto him until they get a "reasonable" offer, not a 4th), before they trade him for a 4th.

He's either going to get a high 3rd (Tampa?), a 2nd (a few teams, including us), or outright released.

People are drastically overvaluing 4th round picks. I wish I knew the stat offhand for how many flame out, I'd say close to 80%.

So you think they'd rather get nothing than a 4th round pick? I don't think you should be calling anything lunacy until you read your own post.

 

[gmoney112]

So you think they'd rather get nothing than a 4th round pick? I don't think you should be calling anything lunacy until you read your own post.

I'll put a 200$ donation to the Zone that they don't let him go for a 4th.

And of course they'd rather get something, I said "they're going to hold onto him until they get a "reasonable" offer, meaning they're going to hold him until they get a GOOD offer. If all they get offered before the draft is a 4th, they're not trading him. They'll keep him as long as possible, and if no one trades for him, they'll end up having to release him because teams will be keen to the fact that they're going to release him anyway at that point.

It's posturing and it happens in business all the time. This is the NFL and a chess game. Why would a team trade a 4th if it's training camp and they get wind that AD is going to get released anyway? And the Vikings sure as **** aren't trading him before the draft for a 4th. Only CZ thinks that's even remotely possible.

 

[Broges74]

Now that explains the picture of his agent holding up two fingers while wearing a bucs hat.

I think I'm out at a 1st. Good luck in Tampa.

 

[yimyammer]

They're not going to let AD go for a 4th, that's lunacy. He'll get released (because they're going to hold onto him until they get a "reasonable" offer, not a 4th), before they trade him for a 4th.

He's either going to get a high 3rd (Tampa?), a 2nd (a few teams, including us), or outright released.

People are drastically overvaluing 4th round picks. I wish I knew the stat offhand for how many flame out, I'd say close to 80%.

I think he'll get released, I threw the fourth in as a longshot in case the Vikes came to their senses and realized something was better than nothing.

AP has all the leverage because he can force the Vikes to pay him his contract or release him

 

[KalEl]

This is hilarious! So many people jumping off the AD train after Stephen Jones spins some FO GM speak!

Esloan acts like he just won the jelly of the month club.

And guys are calling Blount a bell cow...hilarious!

I thought yesterday was 4 20!!

Relax....

SJ said, "I don't see us trading draft picks for veterans." Translation anything can happen but we do place high value on draft picks. I mean come on peeps whats SJ supposed to say? Yes, I see us giving up our 1st or our 3rd for Adrian Peterson if the Vikings will agree.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Now that explains the picture of his agent holding up two fingers while wearing a bucs hat.

I think I'm out at a 1st. Good luck in Tampa.

I am still not sold on all the rumors. All the games going back and forth.

Seems like everybody came out with a hard position.

Minny with their first and a starting corner?
AP with 45 million in guaranteed money?
Dallas says they wont trade ANY picks for Veteran Players......

Now, Minny isn't getting that, AP isn't getting that, but I do think he will be traded. But not for 4th. I am guessing 1-3. And AP is getting paid.

I do believe Stephen Jones though...... I don't know why, but I do. They aren't making an offer.