Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[JoeBoBBY]

The more I think about it, the less I would give up to get AP. Either draft picks or contracts. We just have too many needs, now and in the future, to give up anything for a 30 year old RB on the downside of his career. And, the more information that comes out, the more I am convinced that the Cowboys never had any interest at bringing in AP at any price. Unless AP just falls into their laps, with no draft pick cost and very little money on a contract, the Cowboys are not interested at all. I become more convinced about that by the day and by the reports coming out, I am am correct.

I will agree you nailed the draft picks. They arent doing that.
And you just might be right about the money and the interest level Dallas has.

But it still doesn't make the decision the right one. If anything, when it comes to making these big decisions like this, the FO has shown it doesn't really do well.

Here is where I am at right now.

Dallas wont be as good with regard to the Running game as they were last year. Whatever that means about win/loss , I really don't know? Maybe Romo lights it up, maybe Defense is better, etc etc. But the Running Game want be as dominant. Which I think will hurt....and cost us games..and especially in December and January. If there is a January for the Cowboys.

If AP gets out of Minny, he will be the same AP. The best running back in football. Or at least top 3. Depends on what kind of role and environment he gets in his new home.

 

[dallasdave]

Well said, stay thiersty my friend.

 

[dallasdave]

More speculation the Cowboys are in deed out of the picture. Every time I go in and start reading the Hardy crap it just cements my stance on not wanting him here. Look at the mess one guy has caused. Anyway just got this update...
Yahoo's Charles Robinson says the Cardinals, Bucs and Jaguars are left in the Adrian Peterson race.

Robinson also wouldn't rule out the Falcons. Of course, this all assumes the Vikings are willing to trade Peterson -- so far they've shown no desire to do so whatsoever. It's unlikely they'd get anything near fair value for a 30-year-old running back due $12.75 million. One team notably missing from Robinson's list is the Cowboys, who he says aren't interested at all. "Whoever says otherwise is 1,000 percent wrong."

Amen

 

[esloan]

More speculation the Cowboys are in deed out of the picture. Every time I go in and start reading the Hardy crap it just cements my stance on not wanting him here. Look at the mess one guy has caused. Anyway just got this update...
Yahoo's Charles Robinson says the Cardinals, Bucs and Jaguars are left in the Adrian Peterson race.

Robinson also wouldn't rule out the Falcons. Of course, this all assumes the Vikings are willing to trade Peterson -- so far they've shown no desire to do so whatsoever. It's unlikely they'd get anything near fair value for a 30-year-old running back due $12.75 million. One team notably missing from Robinson's list is the Cowboys, who he says aren't interested at all. "Whoever says otherwise is 1,000 percent wrong."

Sounds like you are giving up? I would say that the Cowboys were never really in the picture however. Sounds like they never had any intention of bringing AP here.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Yep and the Seahawks only gave him a two year extension with a lot of outs after next season. They know that RBs decline quickly at that age.

Yeah. Thats true. so were off about a year or 2. But considering this is Adrian Peterson. Work out freak, best RB in a generation, and by all accounts in great shape. And considering we have 2 years left with Romo(I am hoping for 3 , 4, but realistically 2) I would think that would at least make the FO take a little of a chance and push....

There is not other player that we bring in, via FA or draft that makes a bigger impact on the Dallas Cowboys making a Super Bowl in the next 2 years. Now, maybe a combo of defensive and offensive rookies of the year through the draft, this year and next. But, that seems ..................unlikely.

 

[esloan]

Yeah. Thats true. so were off about a year or 2. But considering this is Adrian Peterson. Work out freak, best RB in a generation, and by all accounts in great shape. And considering we have 2 years left with Romo(I am hoping for 3 , 4, but realistically 2) I would think that would at least make the FO take a little of a chance and push....

There is not other player that we bring in, via FA or draft that makes a bigger impact on the Dallas Cowboys making a Super Bowl in the next 2 years. Now, maybe a combo of defensive and offensive rookies of the year through the draft, this year and next. But, that seems ..................unlikely.

I disagree. More importantly, Stephen Jones and the Cowboys disagree.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I disagree. More importantly, Stephen Jones and the Cowboys disagree.

I know.

I guess we will have to wait and see. And thats what is great about betting. You have to put your money where your mouth is. And, the teams Win/loss record. Thats it. The one exception being the GB playoff game last year of course.

So, this upcoming year, if we go 10-6, 9-7, and miss out on the playoffs, and Romo has to pass the ball more and we dont control TOP. Would you agree that it would be an indication that the wrong move was made?

because I think that is exactly what is going to happen. Its just my opinion, guess....predicting the future is a hard thing to do!

 

[esloan]

I know.

I guess we will have to wait and see. And thats what is great about betting. You have to your money where your mouth is. And, the games. Win/loss. Thats it. The one exception being the GB playoff game last year of course.

So, this upcoming year, if we go 10-6, 9-7, and miss out on the playoffs, and Romo has to pass the ball more and we dont control TOP. Would you agree that it would be an indication that the wrong move was made?

because I think thats what is going to happen. Its just my opinion, guess....predicting the future is a hard thing to do!

No. Regardless of what happens this year, signing a 30 year old RB is a bad move. We could have a bad year this year, there is no way to tell. Teams play amazing one year and suck the next. We may have a great year. I don't know. But the answer is never to sign a 30 year old RB to a big money contract.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

No. Regardless of what happens this year, signing a 30 year old RB is a bad move. We could have a bad year this year, there is no way to tell. Teams play amazing one year and suck the next. We may have a great year. I don't know. But the answer is never to sign a 30 year old RB to a big money contract.

Well thats a pretty hard stance. Would you agree the answer to this question is also, always NO.

"Are we going to rely on a rookie rb coming out of the draft, to help us get to a Super Bowl this year?"

 

[Silver N Blue]

Sounds like you are giving up? I would say that the Cowboys were never really in the picture however. Sounds like they never had any intention of bringing AP here.

Oh no as I posted until game one kicks off or he is traded to another team.

 

[esloan]

Well thats a pretty hard stance. Would you agree the answer to this question is also, always NO.

"Are we going to rely on a rookie rb coming out of the draft, to help us get to a Super Bowl this year?"

Yes. We are going to rely on a rookie, Darren McFadden, Ryan Williams and a hell of an offensive line to get to the Super Bowl this year. Oh, and Romo, Dez, Witten, McClain, Lee, Hardy, Lawrence and a bunch of other guys.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

And just for the record. I really like what the Cowboys have been doing these last few years.

But not this move. Replacing DM with DMC,RBBC, rookie....after we finally found are Identity last year, Is wrong. and I would even say reckless.

I can only assume we aren't concerned about Romos time frame or Romo getting a Super Bowl.

 

[KalEl]

And just for the record. I really like what the Cowboys have been doing these last few years.

But not this move. Replacing DM with DMC,RBBC, rookie....after we finally found are Identity last year, Is wrong. and I would even say reckless.

I can only assume we aren't concerned about Romos time frame or Romo getting a Super Bowl.

You're basing this on what?

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Yes. We are going to rely on a rookie, Darren McFadden, Ryan Williams and a hell of an offensive line to get to the Super Bowl this year. Oh, and Romo, Dez, Witten, McClain, Lee, Hardy, Lawrence and a bunch of other guys.

Yeah, I know we are going to do that.

But isnt the answer to the question
"Should you ever RELY on what you get from a draft pick, to make a Super Bowl push?"

No.

 

[esloan]

Yeah, I know we are going to do that.

But isnt the answer to the question
"Should you ever RELY on what you get from a draft pick, to make a Super Bowl push?"

No.

Huh? Teams do it all the time. Otherwise, there would never been any rookies drafted to start.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

You're basing this on what?

Letting Murray walk, and replacing him with a rookie;
Sign Gore, sign, Mathews, somebody.

Athough I am optimistic about DMC, he cant be the answer!

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Huh? Teams do it all the time. Otherwise, there would never been any rookies drafted to start.

Huh? Teams do that, because they have no other option. We did.

 

[esloan]

Huh? Teams do that, because they have no other option. We did.

No. We had no other reasonable option. Trading draft picks and giving a big contract to a 30 year old RB is not a reasonable option.

 

[KalEl]

Letting Murray walk, and replacing him with a rookie;

You sound like chicken little. Dude the sky isn't falling. IMO the plan all along if Murray refused their offer has been this:

1) Make a strong push to acquire AD. That hasn't happened yet and I stress YET.

If that fails

2) Draft a rookie RB (Gurley, Gordon, or Coleman as they are the ones they seem the most interested in) and worst case scenario RB by committee until one of them shows they're ready for the bell cow role.

In the words or A A Ron. R E L A X

 

[esloan]

You sound like chicken little. Dude the sky isn't falling. IMO the plan all along if Murray refused their offer has been this:

1) Make a strong push to acquire AD. That hasn't happened yet and I stress YET.

If that fails

2) Draft a rookie RB (Gurley, Gordon, or Coleman as they are the ones they seem the most interested in) and worst case scenario RB by committee until one of them shows they're ready for the bell cow role.

In the words or A A Ron. R E L A X

i agree with you except I don't thinking making a push for AP was ever in their plans at all. I am pretty sure their plans have been McFadden and a rookie all along.