Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[KalEl]

There is no difference. He said: “I don’t see us using any picks to trade for veteran ballplayers.” AP is a veteran ballplayer, is he not? Or did he suddenly become a rookie? Or a coach or something?

He went on:

“I think draft picks are so important for us. That’s where your value is in this salary cap era. I see us using all of our picks and hopefully do it in a good, wise way. Hopefully when the draft is all said and done, we’ll have really improved our football team."

I don't see vs We aren't is a HUGE difference.

I don't see = door open for reversal of that thought

We aren't = not going to happen end of story

Get it? Got it? Good.

 

[esloan]

I don't see vs We aren't is a HUGE difference.

I don't see = door open for reversal of that thought

We aren't = not going to happen end of story

Get it? Got it? Good.

You are so reaching. Guess those last gasps aren't fun though.

 

[KalEl]

You are so reaching. Guess those last gasps aren't fun though.

Again your opinion. Nice try fella. You're still dead wrong in your interpretation of SJ comments. You keep holding on to that thread. That's the only thing you have now.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Who knows? We aren't there yet. Whoever we replace him with, he will be in a better position because they build long term. He will have the benefit of a great offensive line, Dez at receiver and, hopefully, a solid defense because of solid drafts. He will also have the benefit of a young RB instead of a beat down AP at 33 or 34 years old.

I would argue long term in the NFL is 3-4 years. And not recognizing that your franchise QB, is in his last years, is more reckless then signing AP for 3 years 25 million. imho

Thinking your going to plug and play a QB in this league and win super bowls is naive. Were going to have to hit the lottery.

But I will give you this. Seattle just did it. Wilson is a fine QB but not great. SF did the same thing to a lesser degree. They both had great teams and okay QBs and were among the best teams in the league; But I would say that is the exception to the rule. But not impossible......

I believe we can push right now while we have a great QB and prepare to have a great team at the same time. Were going to need a year to rid ourselves of dead money, but were going to need a year for the new QB to get used to wearing a Cowboys uniform anyway. A reloading year, not a rebuilding year. Thats when you get that rookie out of the draft and "hope" for a super bowl, while he is getting experience...and while you evaluate if he is the guy...

Dont sacrifice are chances now, in the name of "were going to be good later"....

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think thats extremely unfair, misguided, and uncalled for. At this point were just going over the same old arguments. All we really have left is a bet. A simple friendly bet. . Get the zone a donation!! I thought it would be fun and a good way to check in through out the season,

What happened to no personal attacks? You attacking my personality because of it?

Machismo? Over a friendly bet? I have stated my case they have stated theirs. I actually believe in mine. No one has taken the bet if you notice. I would appreciate it if you would just not read my posts anymore. In fact, i think there is an ignore button, Problem solved fuzzy,

Still nothing. And no I am not going away.

I said it demonstrated your personality and made no judgement won way or the other. Nice cross tho.

 

[erod]

I don't want you on my football team at all-even making sure the balls have the right pressure. You don't trade your best player, you find another way to get a asset you want.

Herschel Walker

 

[pansophy]

I would argue long term in the NFL is 3-4 years. And not recognizing that your franchise QB, is in his last years, is more reckless then signing AP for 3 years 25 million. imho

Thinking your going to plug and play a QB in this league and win super bowls is naive. Were going to have to hit the lottery.

But I will give you this. Seattle just did it. Wilson is a fine QB but not great. SF did the same thing to a lesser degree. They both had great teams and okay QBs and were among the best teams in the league; But I would say that is the exception to the rule. But not impossible......

I believe we can push right now while we have a great QB and prepare to have a great team at the same time. Were going to need a year to rid ourselves of dead money, but were going to need a year for the new QB to get used to wearing a Cowboys uniform anyway. A reloading year, not a rebuilding year. Thats when you get that rookie out of the draft and "hope" for a super bowl, while he is getting experience...and while you evaluate if he is the guy...

Dont sacrifice are chances now, in the name of "were going to be good later"....

I have yet heard one piece of data to support AP is worth all this discussion.

1. Stephen Jones has been incredibly consistent in his comments regarding the RB position, which include when we didn't match the Eagles offer to Murray and before AP was ever even in the conversation.
   
2. People act like AP is 25, but he is 30, and the data show that running backs in their 30's decline rapidly.
   
3. Apparently getting AP would mean we would have a dominating running game and would be an instant contender for the super bowl. But AP has only run for more yards than Murray did last year one time, so even if AP matches Murray and gets 1800 yards it was not enough for us to even get to the championship game last year.

Where is a reason to sign him to a significant contract (let alone trade for him) other than just phrases like 'once in a generation RB', or 'All-Pro', or 'dominating running game'?

I frankly don't get it.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Still nothing. And no I am not going away.

I said it demonstrated your personality and made no judgement won way or the other. Nice cross tho.

yeah. but unfortunately I am. I understand the occasional "you are crazy for thinking we need AP for a first", or "Im glad your not running the team", and banter back and forth. But you really jumped on this one and claimed there is something wrong with my personality because I offered to bet about an argument, You know the same thing people do all the time, all across this nation on all kinds of various things. And the zone would get the money for providing a place for us to banter back and forth...

But you jumped right in and made comments about my personality. Its like you are looking and searching for that kind of dialog. Fair enough. But, I dont need that. Some people aren't going to get along. Thats why forums developed the ignore button. But hey, Go Cowboys.

 

[Sydla]

1. Stephen Jones has been incredibly consistent in his comments regarding the RB position, which include when we didn't match the Eagles offer to Murray and before AP was ever even in the conversation.

Yep. And if Murray had a lower request, within our range, we would have signed him. Just like if Peterson could be had for an amount the front office could swallow, we'd take him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yeah. but unfortunately I am. I understand the occasional "you are crazy for thinking we need AP for a first", or "Im glad your not running the team", and banter back and forth. But you really jumped on this one and claimed there is something wrong with my personality because I offered to bet about an argument, You know the same thing people do all the time, all across this nation on all kinds of various things. And the zone would get the money for providing a place for us to banter back and forth...

But you jumped right in and made comments about my personality. Its like you are looking and searching for that kind of dialog. Fair enough. But, I dont need that. Some people aren't going to get along. Thats why forums developed the ignore button. But hey, Go Cowboys.

I didn't say anything was wrong if you thought that I implied that then it is on you. It's actually quite typical amongst American men IMO. Still isn't an argument though.

 

[JohnnyCulbreth]

So SJ says we won't trade draft picks for any veteran players.. What are the chances of us trading player(/s) for (veteran) player? I doubt Minnesota would even bite at that or that we'd even be willing to do it but there are a few situations where it could be beneficial for both teams.

 

[mattjames2010]

So now your showing your math skills....let me help little guy...7-1=6...see that does not equal zero picks...you keep trying you will get there some day...poor fella

I'm saying you'd panic even after giving up a pick or picks for Peterson. I'm sure with your impulse decisions, another team could get more picks from you.

You're the ultimate chicken little. You and a few others in this thread.

 

[mattjames2010]

I think Romo will be dropping back to pass more this season because we wont have Murray to depend on anymore. I have no confidence in the RBBC or any of the current players or rookies to provide what we need to have a dominating run game. I dont see Romo and Lineham and Garret trusting any of those guys during crucial moments of the game.

So if he drops back more thats more opportunities for him to get sacked. I do think a rookie will most likely give up a few more. But I would be willing to bet, total sacks assigned to the RBBC vs Murrays total for all sacks assigned to him. ? If you wanna bet on other things, I am up for that to. we dont have to do 50 bones. maybe 20? And it will be a donation at this point,

I hate what we have done this offseason, by letting Murray walk and the backup plan to that was , not even make a play for AP, and sign DMC and rookie. I dont think we will be as good as we were last year. At least when it comes to the running the game.

Its hard to predict the future , thats for sure. But, these moves have not made us a better team imho

RBBC? Why do some of you keep saying this? Giving a backup more carries and giving the majority to the rookie RB doesn't mean RBBC.

And Linehan has be adamant about this running game. He is not changing his stance on this. If you think we're going to be forced to throw , again, I think you're wrong. You guys have done nothing but talk up this offensive line's run blocking for over 150 pages and now we won't have an effective running game? With the right rookie RB, and there are a few in this draft, we will have an effective running game just like last season.

 

[esloan]

So SJ says we won't trade draft picks for any veteran players.. What are the chances of us trading player(/s) for (veteran) player? I doubt Minnesota would even bite at that or that we'd even be willing to do it but there are a few situations where it could be beneficial for both teams.

What player would we be willing to give up that the Vikings would want for AP? Names?

 

[pansophy]

Yep. And if Murray had a lower request, within our range, we would have signed him. Just like if Peterson could be had for an amount the front office could swallow, we'd take him.

That's fine. If he gets cut and is willing to play for about what McFadden got then great.

But no one seems to think he would play for that.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Link?

Good luck getting that....

 

[Silver N Blue]

http://arizonasports.com/40/1827796/Yah


Whoever says otherwise is 1,000 percent wrong," he said. "The Cowboys have not spoken to the Minnesota Vikings about Adrian Peterson. It has not happened. They haven't offered a draft pick, they have not picked up the telephone to talk to the Minnesota Vikings about Adrian Peterson. It simply has not happened."

You guys need to get your own material...I provided this for you earlier today...

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I have yet heard one piece of data to support AP is worth all this discussion.

1. Stephen Jones has been incredibly consistent in his comments regarding the RB position, which include when we didn't match the Eagles offer to Murray and before AP was ever even in the conversation.
2. People act like AP is 25, but he is 30, and the data show that running backs in their 30's decline rapidly.
3. Apparently getting AP would mean we would have a dominating running game and would be an instant contender for the super bowl. But AP has only run for more yards than Murray did last year one time, so even if AP matches Murray and gets 1800 yards it was not enough for us to even get to the championship game last year.

Where is a reason to sign him to a significant contract (let alone trade for him) other than just phrases like 'once in a generation RB', or 'All-Pro', or 'dominating running game'?

I frankly don't get it.

1. Why wouldn't there be discussion about it? DM was lost in FA. Dallas is looking for a running back. AP isnt happy in Minny......ummmm?
2. forget the age and history for right now. Do you think AP is hitting the wall? I actually think he will have a monster year this year.
3. AP has been stuck in Minny his entire career and has still done well. But you sort of just said it. Its not so much the total yards that are important. Its much much more then that. We need AP against the better teams. In December and January. We need AP so that opposing defenses never even think about keying on DEZ first. That half a second of hesitation with their eyes on AP right when the ball is snapped, does wonders! DM was good, AP is even better....

Its a gamble no doubt. And he is 30. I think he has 2 years maybe three. But that is a BWAG coming from me!! We need him for 2-3 years. I think he has that in him. I am betting on it......You have to place your chips somewhere. I would bet on AP.

 

[esloan]

You guys need to get your own material...I provided this for you earlier today...

Oh, I am sorry. I had no idea this was your material. Didn't know you were a sports writer. Congratulations man, your writing in that piece is a whole lot better than your writing on the forums though. Heck, that piece is fairly well written and understandable.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Don't lump me in with the anti AD crowd . I'm all in for All Day! I think he makes us an instant SB contender!!

Won't happen you have actually brought more to the table than your opinion and understand the meaning of a debate.