Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[JoeBoBBY]

I didn't say anything was wrong if you thought that I implied that then it is on you. It's actually quite typical amongst American men IMO. Still isn't an argument though.

fair enough. And to be honest, I can get a little wired at times. Good thing is, i let go of it all, quickly. fair ?

 

[Silver N Blue]

Oh, I am sorry. I had no idea this was your material. Didn't know you were a sports writer. Congratulations man, your writing in that piece is a whole lot better than your writing on the forums though. Heck, that piece is fairly well written and understandable. [/quote

Kids today...I do forget sometimes after one sentence today's generation looses focus.

 

[esloan]

1. Why wouldn't there be discussion about it? DM was lost in FA. Dallas is looking for a running back. AP isnt happy in Minny......ummmm?
2. forget the age and history for right now. Do you think AP is hitting the wall? I actually think he will have a monster year this year.
3. AP has been stuck in Minny his entire career and has still done well. But you sort of just said it. Its not so much the total yards that are important. Its much much more then that. We need AP against the better teams. In December and January. We need AP so that opposing defenses never even think about keying on DEZ first. That half a second of hesitation with their eyes on AP right when the ball is snapped, does wonders! DM was good, AP is even better....

Its a gamble no doubt. And he is 30. I think he has 2 years maybe three. But that is a BWAG coming from me!! We need him for 2-3 years. I think he has that in him. I am betting on it......You have to place your chips somewhere. I would bet on AP.

1. They are not discussing it because he is a 30 year old RB. One that would cost too much to acquire.

2. You can't forget the age!! He is 30. You can't forget that. It is the single most important factor when determining whether trading draft picks and signing a contract it worth it.

3. Melvin Gordon would be fine behind this line. He would probably be better than fine, he would probably be great. Coleman would be good. Ajayi would be good (though he scares me now with that knee condition). We don't need AP.

 

[esloan]

Kids today...I do forget sometimes after one sentence today's generation looses focus.

That would be loses. Looses is not a word.

Anyway, as I have said before, I bet we are pretty close to the same generation. Hell, I may be older.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

RBBC? Why do some of you keep saying this? Giving a backup more carries and giving the majority to the rookie RB doesn't mean RBBC.

And Linehan has be adamant about this running game. He is not changing his stance on this. If you think we're going to be forced to throw , again, I think you're wrong. You guys have done nothing but talk up this offensive line's run blocking for over 150 pages and now we won't have an effective running game? With the right rookie RB, and there are a few in this draft, we will have an effective running game just like last season.

Well RBBC is basically what were going to have if said rookie, who isnt even on the team yet, cant win the position.

And I think your wrong. We wont have a consistently , count on it every time, running game this year. Which means they will slowly go away from it, because they wont trust it...I also think will lose the dominant TOP we won last year because of the guys we have running the football. Which will put our defense on the field more. And, ...................... thats bad; bad things happen, when that happens....

 

[Chuck 54]

I cannot believe this thread is still rolling....

Money is not the main issue. If we want AP and think he will still be the top RB for 3 more years, we can pay him more than Murray got. The problem is getting robbed by Minny in the trade.

AP for #60? I have no problem with that. AP for #27? I'm wondering if that's better than a top CB, LB, or starting DT. Multiple draft picks? It all becomes very problematic.

But if Minny would trade his rights for #60 in 2nd round, and if AP would do a new contract for 8 million/year, YES....I'd do that today.

 

[Silver N Blue]

I'm saying you'd panic even after giving up a pick or picks for Peterson. I'm sure with your impulse decisions, another team could get more picks from you.

You're the ultimate chicken little. You and a few others in this thread.

Nope never been someone who makes impulse decisions...keep trying though.

 

[mattjames2010]

Well RBBC is basically what were going to have if said rookie, who isnt even on the team yet, cant win the position.

And I think your wrong. We wont have a consistently , count on it every time, running game this year. Which means they will slowly go away from it, because they wont trust it...I also think will lose the dominant TOP we won last year because of the guys we have running the football. Which will put our defense on the field more. And, ...................... thats bad; bad things happen, when that happens....

You're sounding more and more pro-Murray.

Should we trade and get him back?

 

[Silver N Blue]

That would be loses. Looses is not a word.

Anyway, as I have said before, I bet we are pretty close to the same generation. Hell, I may be older.

I did that just for you......

 

[JoeBoBBY]

1. They are not discussing it because he is a 30 year old RB. One that would cost too much to acquire.

2. You can't forget the age!! He is 30. You can't forget that. It is the single most important factor when determining whether trading draft picks and signing a contract it worth it.

3. Melvin Gordon would be fine behind this line. He would probably be better than fine, he would probably be great. Coleman would be good. Ajayi would be good (though he scares me now with that knee condition). We don't need AP.

you have never really answered my question. Or at least I havent seen it answered,

Do you think the Cowboys chances are significantly better to make Super Bowl next year, with AP on the team?

 

[esloan]

I did that just for you

Nope. I don't think so. I have seen your poor spelling and grammar elsewhere in the thread. Out of curiosity, so we can put this to rest (it seems to bother you, as you have brought it up a couple times at least), what generation are you from? How old? Just wondering, since you seem fixated on it. Or maybe you just love making unfounded assumptions?

 

[esloan]

you have never really answered my question. Or at least I havent seen it answered,

Do you think the Cowboys chances are significantly better to make Super Bowl next year, with AP on the team?

Significantly? No. Maybe a little bit but it is hard to say. I would say our chances hinge more on our defensive draft than at RB.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

You're sounding more and more pro-Murray.

Should we trade and get him back?

I was never anti-murray. I just expected a backup plan better then whatever rookie we can snag in the draft and DMC.

They have had a while to do their due dilegence and so far, by the way it "seems" to be going at this very moment. They have failed.

What your doing is defending that failure and acting like its been the plan all along. If it was the plan all along..... I'm not sure the Cowboys will ever make a super bowl.

 

[JohnnyCulbreth]

What player would we be willing to give up that the Vikings would want for AP? Names?

I'm not sure. I am not as involved as you guys are on this subject nor do I pretend to be. I'm just saying I'm sure there are some situations that could be mutually beneficial.

 

[mattjames2010]

I was never anti-murray. I just expected a backup plan better then whatever rookie we can snag in the draft and DMC.

They have had a while to do their due dilegence and so far, by the way it "seems" to be going at this very moment. They have failed.

What your doing is defending that failure and acting like its been the plan all along. If it was the plan all along..... I'm not sure the Cowboys will ever make a super bowl.

Our plan all along has been this: Offer Murray what we believe he is worth, if he doesn't accept, sign quality backup and draft a great prospect.

That has been our plan. NOTHING has failed. The draft hasn't even happened yet. We got a great backup in DMC (He's played well in that role) and there are some great rookie prospects we'll have a shot at in this draft.

You call that failing, I call giving up draft picks to a 30 year old RB with myths surrounding him a failure.

 

[KalEl]

Our plan all along has been this: Offer Murray what we believe he is worth, if he doesn't accept, sign quality backup and draft a great prospect.

That has been our plan. NOTHING has failed. The draft hasn't even happened yet. We got a great backup in DMC (He's played well in that role) and there are some great rookie prospects we'll have a shot at in this draft.

You call that failing, I call giving up draft picks to a 30 year old RB with myths surrounding him a failure.

DMC is part the backup plan regardless if AD is brought in or not. I think the Cowboys would be foolish to not at least make an effort to acquire AD as long as the price is right. I agree with you he isn't worth picks, but he's IMHO worth a 3rd rd pick or a 4th rd pick anything higher than that is too high.

 

[Fletch]

That would be loses. Looses is not a word.

Anyway, as I have said before, I bet we are pretty close to the same generation. Hell, I may be older.

63 is the new 40.

 

[big dog cowboy]

You don't trade your best player, you find another way to get a asset you want.

Herschel Walker

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Significantly? No. Maybe a little bit but it is hard to say. I would say our chances hinge more on our defensive draft than at RB.

It is hard to say from our per view. Were just fans....

But I would be willing to bet ALOT that he goes off this year and has a monster year. And with are offensive line, and Dez and Romo and Witten...... We would have an unstoppable Offense. Who is that linebacker going to key on?

That to me makes more sense and is more valuable, then trying to draft a defensive player. I think that is a stretch. I also think the Defense needs more time and draft picks to become a unit that can handle stopping Aaron Rodgers more then Aaron Rodgers scores on them....which means , first and foremost, we got to keep are defense off the field.....

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Our plan all along has been this: Offer Murray what we believe he is worth, if he doesn't accept, sign quality backup and draft a great prospect.

That has been our plan. NOTHING has failed. The draft hasn't even happened yet. We got a great backup in DMC (He's played well in that role) and there are some great rookie prospects we'll have a shot at in this draft.

You call that failing, I call giving up draft picks to a 30 year old RB with myths surrounding him a failure.

We went from having a really good RB and a great leader, who the team trusted and liked and rallied around , to DMC and unknown rookie.

Thats a failure every time.

Where is the extra money going ? Who did we sign on Defense with all that extra money?