Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[Silver N Blue]

That's where I'm at too, and I think all of that money they would be forced to pay Peterson to retain him could be put to much better use filling a multitude of other weaknesses.

Come Sunday we will know. Either he gets traded or the Boys draft a top tier RB. Can't wait!

 

[Doomsday101]

Can handle and should handle are two entirely different things. Right now, the Minnesota Vikings are the only team that has to pay Adrian Peterson $45 million over the next 3 years. Nobody else in the league is willing to do that, nor do they have to.

That sure doesn't sound like any 'cat bird seat' I'd want to be sitting in!



What's 'top pick' for you? I'm not sure we've ever clearly discussed that.



I'd be grudgingly OK with giving up the second rounder to get him, rather than rolling the dice on the unproven rookie likely to still be available at pick #60. But I would prefer to offer a later round pick this year and a conditional one for 2016.

Give me 'All Day' over anyone other than Gurley or Tevin Coleman all day, every day.

And when I'm otherwise paying an afterthought like Lance Dunbar over $1.5 million, I have little problem paying a Hall of Famer like Peterson $8 million.

Why they have the money, they are not being forced to release him because of the cap. Is it a lot of money? sure it is there are other players making a lot of money who have less of a chance to making the playoffs than Minn who was 9-7 last season without AP in the backfield a rookie QB who showed vast improvement over the last 8 games of the season with 13 TD to 7 ints.

As for Dallas at RB I think there are option out there for them, guys like Gurley whom I think it a long shot to be there at 27. Gordon I think there is a chance , if Dallas moves out of the 27th and gets the extra picks I think Coleman comes into play if Cowboys stay put I think even there they will have some good options at RB.

As for giving up a top pick for a 30 year old back again I think it is foolish and if Dallas was not going to hand out that kind of money to the NFL leading rusher last year there is no reason they should be giving it to a older RB who last played in 2013 season and managed on 1,266 yards and you want to hand him 8 mill a year?

If you want to tell me Peterson is much better than 1,266 yard RB then it goes back to then why would Minn let him walk when he can still evidently produce as a league leading running back who could only help them and take a lot of pressure off of a young QB who as I said helped lead them to 9-7 without much around him

 

[Stash]

Why they have the money, they are not being forced to release him because of the cap. Is it a lot of money? sure it is there are other players making a lot of money who have less of a chance to making the playoffs than Minn who was 9-7 last season without AP in the backfield a rookie QB who showed vast improvement over the last 8 games of the season with 13 TD to 7 ints.

They were 7-9, not 9-7. And if they had to spend it, sure. But they can roll it over into future years, like if Bridgewater is what they had hoped for, they can afford to pay him. There are a lot of young players they'll need to pay in the future, why not save the money for then when you actually might win something?

As for Dallas at RB I think there are option out there for them, guys like Gurley whom I think it a long shot to be there at 27. Gordon I think there is a chance , if Dallas moves out of the 27th and gets the extra picks I think Coleman comes into play if Cowboys stay put I think even there they will have some good options at RB.

As for giving up a top pick for a 30 year old back again I think it is foolish and if Dallas was not going to hand out that kind of money to the NFL leading rusher last year there is no reason they should be giving it to a older RB who last played in 2013 season and managed on 1,266 yards and you want to hand him 8 mill a year?

Yep. Because he's better than the guy we had last year. And nobody would say otherwise.

If you want to tell me Peterson is much better than 1,266 yard RB then it goes back to then why would Minn let him walk when he can still evidently produce as a league leading running back who could only help them and take a lot of pressure off of a young QB who as I said helped lead them to 9-7 without much around him

Again, it was 7-9, not 9-7. Maybe that truth will change your view of things?

And I'll sum up what I've said before:

They can get a draft pick (or two) to help them continue to build

They can be rid of a guy who has told them he doesn't want to be there

They can get out from under a $45 million contract, paying quarterback money to a running back and use that money to fill many other needs

 

[ufcrules1]

That's where I'm at too, and I think all of that money they would be forced to pay Peterson to retain him could be put to much better use filling a multitude of other weaknesses.

Same here. Not to mention Peterson doesn't even want to play for them! Is he really going to go out there and kill himself for them knowing they aren't going to even make the playoffs? Before this all started the word was Minny was going to ask him to take less money... well that is completely out of the question. So now they are going to pay him this huge salary when the team isn't going anywhere? I just don't buy it.. I see them trading him. It's going to suck if Arizona gets him.. that will make them yet another team better than us (GB, Seattle, Arizona).

 

[Doomsday101]

They were 7-9, not 9-7. And if they had to spend it, sure. But they can roll it over into future years, like if Bridgewater is what they had hoped for, they can afford to pay him. There are a lot of young players they'll need to pay in the future, why not save the money for then when you actually might win something?



Yep. Because he's better than the guy we had last year. And nobody would say otherwise.



Again, it was 7-9, not 9-7. Maybe that truth will change your view of things?

And I'll sum up what I've said before:

They can get a draft pick (or two) to help them continue to build

They can be rid of a guy who has told them he doesn't want to be there

They can get out from under a $45 million contract, paying quarterback money to a running back and use that money to fill many other needs

he is better than they guy we had last year? Bingo that is why they will keep him. We had the league leading rusher so I take it Peterson should be leading the league in rushing and they have a very good young QB who will benefit. They have a good pass rush right now and with the 11th over all a chance to improve greatly. If Peterson is that good then why would Minn keep him and before you throw up the contract they knew what his contract would be when they signed him to it and evidently he has not slowing down so hell they are getting what they paid for.

 

[dallasdave]

Come Sunday we will know. Either he gets traded or the Boys draft a top tier RB. Can't wait!

Yes, action plan to win Super Bowl. We need a dominant RB

 

[jobberone]

Sound like Dirty Harry

I knew I got that somewhere.

 

[dallasdave]

I knew I got that somewhere.

Do you fell lucky? Well do you ?

 

[jobberone]

Seems to be deju vu about deju vu all over again.

 

[jobberone]

Do you fell lucky? Well do you ?

I feel fine, Dave. No Wait! Stop Dave.

 

[Stash]

he is better than they guy we had last year? Bingo that is why they will keep him. We had the league leading rusher so I take it Peterson should be leading the league in rushing and they have a very good young QB who will benefit.

What about that whole "9-7" thing you were talking about? Is that glaring mistake just glossed over now?

Sure, if you believe that the running back can do it all by himself. Do you think that was the case with Murray? Did he do it all by himself without a Pro Bowl quarterback, without a Pro Bowl receiver, and without Pro Bowl offensive linemen?

Because, as you're suggesting, it's all about one guy. Or does that double-standard only hold true in Peterson's case?

They have a good pass rush right now and with the 11th over all a chance to improve greatly. If Peterson is that good then why would Minn keep him and before you throw up the contract they knew what his contract would be when they signed him to it and evidently he has not slowing down so hell they are getting what they paid for.

Sure they knew! Is that any sort of a revelation? Why even bring it up?

They knew it so well, that they structured the guaranteed money be paid before the biggest salaries really kicked in. Was that a fortunate accident or something done purposely for the team's advantage? It was structured the same way most contracts are, for the team's advantage and long-term best interests.

But nobody in the league would take on that contract because it's terrible! It's completely out of whack with what everyone else is doing at the running back position. But if the Vikings want to back up their bluster and keep a player who doesn't want to be there, that's what they, and they alone, are forced to pay.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Ask the Chicago Bears if they think having a disgruntled player as the face of the franchise is a good idea. They messed up with that contract.

I would bet a shiny nickle, Minny will trade him to the Cards in the Draft.

 

[Doomsday101]

What about that whole "9-7" thing you were talking about? Is that glaring mistake just glossed over now?

Sure, if you believe that the running back can do it all by himself. Do you think that was the case with Murray? Did he do it all by himself without a Pro Bowl quarterback, without a Pro Bowl receiver, and without Pro Bowl offensive linemen?

Because, as you're suggesting, it's all about one guy. Or does that double-standard only hold true in Peterson's case?



Sure they knew! Is that any sort of a revelation? Why even bring it up?

They knew it so well, that they structured the guaranteed money be paid before the biggest salaries really kicked in. Was that a fortunate accident or something done purposely for the team's advantage? It was structured the same way most contracts are, for the team's advantage and long-term best interests.

But nobody in the league would take on that contract because it's terrible! It's completely out of whack with what everyone else is doing at the running back position. But if the Vikings want to back up their bluster and keep a player who doesn't want to be there, that's what they, and they alone, are forced to pay.

My mistake it should have said 7-9 not trying to gloss anything over it was a type-o on my part. Minn was willing to pay AP around 12 mill in 2013 and 2014.

As for the RB doing it by himself I don't think any can but now Minn has a QB to add to that mix and over the last 8 games of the season Bridgewater showed very good improvement in his play throwing 13 TD to 7 ints without a big time WR or RB. Add AP to the mix they should be better than a 9-7 team.

I'm sure Minn is willing to trade if someone is willing to as they have said blow them out of the water with an offer. I hope like hell it is not Dallas. Jerry and his big splash moves do not work and to waste big money that we were unwilling to give to Murray and in the process give up a top pick to get a 30 year old RB makes no sense what so every. People are living in the Peterson past glory and think he would somehow lead us to the promise land? BS it is these stupid moves that hurt not help. It closes the window of opportunity much faster.

 

[Stash]

My mistake it should have said 7-9 not trying to gloss anything over it was a type-o on my part.

It's cool. I just had to needle you a bit on it!

Minn was willing to pay AP around 12 mill in 2013 and 2014.

As for the RB doing it by himself I don't think any can but now Minn has a QB to add to that mix and over the last 8 games of the season Bridgewater showed very good improvement in his play throwing 13 TD to 7 ints without a big time WR or RB. Add AP to the mix they should be better than a 9-7 team.

But not really winning anything of significance in 2015. At best, they could be the 10-6 Eagles of 2014 who won enough to screw up their draft pick and nothing more.

I'm sure Minn is willing to trade if someone is willing to as they have said blow them out of the water with an offer. I hope like hell it is not Dallas. Jerry and his big splash moves do not work and to waste big money that we were unwilling to give to Murray and in the process give up a top pick to get a 30 year old RB makes no sense what so every.

No, neither do I. If they're sticking to that, they can keep him, his bloated contract, and all the headaches that come with a disgruntled player. But I don't think it's 'wasting money' to add the league's best running back to this Cowboys team. He's better than Murray, that's why he deserves to be paid more. $13 million? No chance. But he's worth more than Murray.

People are living in the Peterson past glory and think he would somehow lead us to the promise land? BS it is these stupid moves that hurt not help. It closes the window of opportunity much faster.

That window closes with Romo anyway, regardless of whatever this team does or does not do with Adrian Peterson. But Peterson is the league's best running back until proven otherwise. Only a few Cowboys fans would say any different.

And, any bias aside, I think anyone would be hard-pressed to come up with a more talented offensive lineup than what the Cowboys would have for 2015 with Peterson.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's cool. I just had to needle you a bit on it!



But not really winning anything of significance in 2015. At best, they could be the 10-6 Eagles of 2014 who won enough to screw up their draft pick and nothing more.



No, neither do I. If they're sticking to that, they can keep him, his bloated contract, and all the headaches that come with a disgruntled player. But I don't think it's 'wasting money' to add the league's best running back to this Cowboys team. He's better than Murray, that's why he deserves to be paid more. $13 million? No chance. But he's worth more than Murray.



That window closes with Romo anyway, regardless of whatever this team does or does not do with Adrian Peterson. But Peterson is the league's best running back until proven otherwise. Only a few Cowboys fans would say any different.

And, any bias aside, I think anyone would be hard-pressed to come up with a more talented offensive lineup than what the Cowboys would have for 2015 with Peterson.

We do not know what Minn record, no more than those who predicted dallas being 5-11 last season. things change in a hurry in the NFL, should Bridgewater show himself as a top QB then it benefits the Vikes greatly, having a RB that teams must key on also helps Bridgewater quite a bit so saying they can only go 10-6? May, maybe they do much better.

Currently you say he is better than Murray, I don't buy into that. I think in his prime yes better than Murray but given his last season was 2013 and his rushing yards were quite a bit down I don't think it is a given he is much better than anyone.

For the sake of argument if he is as good as you think he will be then Minn can benefit greatly off of that as any team would and with an 11th overall they have a chance to improve themselves quite a bit more.

As for Romo window getting smaller sure it is but that does not mean the Cowboys team has to close the window on themselves by bringing in older players with big contracts. I think a team has a better chance by building a strong foundation so that when a new QB is selected say in the next year or 2 that he will be able to sit behind Romo and when he takes over he will not be the only talent on the team he will have a better chance with a team in place

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Suffice to say that the persuit of AP is obscene, nonsensical, profane and beneath us.
Would we be so keen as to hire someone who abused a military veteran. A woman (OK, that's OK with a lot of people here)? A dog?
We would not.
But the pursuit of an over the hill, aged, expensive runner is stupid.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

As much as I think our draft shold be defensive all the way, we do need to draft a rookie RB. With the money we'd flush down the turlet with AP we could flush out two good defensive backs in FA or a corner and a lineman.

 

[Stash]

We do not know what Minn record, no more than those who predicted dallas being 5-11 last season. things change in a hurry in the NFL, should Bridgewater show himself as a top QB then it benefits the Vikes greatly, having a RB that teams must key on also helps Bridgewater quite a bit so saying they can only go 10-6? May, maybe they do much better.

If you would like to make the claim that the Vikings would beat Green Bay, Dallas, or Seattle in the playoffs, feel free. I just think you won't have much company out on that island.

Currently you say he is better than Murray, I don't buy into that. I think in his prime yes better than Murray but given his last season was 2013 and his rushing yards were quite a bit down I don't think it is a given he is much better than anyone.

You're again out on an island.

For the sake of argument if he is as good as you think he will be then Minn can benefit greatly off of that as any team would and with an 11th overall they have a chance to improve themselves quite a bit more.

But, as I said, one man cannot do it all. Peterson could put a team as talented as our Cowboys over the top, a team like the Vikings simply have too many question marks and too many holes.

As for Romo window getting smaller sure it is but that does not mean the Cowboys team has to close the window on themselves by bringing in older players with big contracts. I think a team has a better chance by building a strong foundation so that when a new QB is selected say in the next year or 2 that he will be able to sit behind Romo and when he takes over he will not be the only talent on the team he will have a better chance with a team in place

If the team does what they need to do and drafts well, it won't be an issue. Romo's replacement, along with Peterson's, should be in place when the time comes, working under inexpensive rookie contracts while whatever dead money remains from the star players' past deals is taken care of.

Heck, we could draft both of their replacements next year with a Super Bowl trophy in our pockets and give both guys a season to develop into their future roles. At that point, they're bumping the Brandon Weedens and Joseph Randles off of this roster, which would be a good thing.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Ask the Chicago Bears if they think having a disgruntled player as the face of the franchise is a good idea. They messed up with that contract.

I would bet a shiny nickle, Minny will trade him to the Cards in the Draft.

Aww reverse jinx!! Nice tactic Joe!

 

[Doomsday101]

If you would like to make the claim that the Vikings would beat Green Bay, Dallas, or Seattle in the playoffs, feel free. I just think you won't have much company out on that island.



You're again out on an island.



But, as I said, one man cannot do it all. Peterson could put a team as talented as our Cowboys over the top, a team like the Vikings simply have too many question marks and too many holes.



If the team does what they need to do and drafts well, it won't be an issue. Romo's replacement, along with Peterson's, should be in place when the time comes, working under inexpensive rookie contracts while whatever dead money remains from the star players' past deals is taken care of.

Heck, we could draft both of their replacements next year with a Super Bowl trophy in our pockets and give both guys a season to develop into their future roles. At that point, they're bumping the Brandon Weedens and Joseph Randles off of this roster, which would be a good thing.

I'm not predicting that I'm saying they have a chance to be a much improved team, how good? I don't know nor do you.
Hell last season you told me Dallas would not beat the seahawks or the saints no way. You were wrong, so forgive me if I don't your prognostication skills as the word of God. lol

As for Dallas I don't want to give up a top pick and pay 8 mill to a 30 year old RB period end of story. I think it is stupid to live on Peterson past glory, he did not look all that damn special in 2013 and now a season removed forgive me but I would not give up a 3rd and damn sure would not pay him any more than 2 mill with incentives put in place.

We have gone from Peterson talking to Jerry one day saying he would like to finish his career in Dallas. So everyone starts up with the hometown discount, now all of a sudden it is giving up a 2nd and paying him 8 million? LOL NO fricken way!!!!

 

[mickswag]