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[KalEl]

Talent means absolutely nothing if a player can't stay on the field. It's one thing if it was an isolated incident, but it hasn't been that way for Gurley. He is, without a doubt, injury prone. This goes all the way back to high school when he sprained both ankles.

Sounds like Murray.

 

[mattjames2010]

Gurley is top 10 talent the only reason he drops to top 15 is because of the knee injury period. The first round of the draft always has surprises.You left out the Vikings. The Vikings could move AD on day 1 and draft Gurley as his replacement.

I'm kinda tired of discussing the Vikings and the fanfiction trade scenarios.

 

[KalEl]

I'm kinda tired of discussing the Vikings and the fanfiction trade scenarios.

Come on. You have to consider that if Gurley were to drop to them they would have a big decision on their plate. Gurley and Teddy B for the long haul vs. AD for 2 more years at best.

 

[phildadon86]

I go back to the leaked trade last night, Esloan, Mjames, and Jim in line at the liquor store buying all the AD jerseys, Stephen Jones wearing a purple shirt to the pre draft press conference(daddy and JG both wore Cowboys colors), and now this....IT's A SIGN!

What leaked trade?

 

[KalEl]

What leaked trade?

There isn't one. It's his own imagination and pot stirring.

 

[phildadon86]

A beast who has a nagging injury every year that either knocks him out of games or makes him miss the entire season.

I save the "beast" label to players that can stay on the field and play at a high level. That goes to Gordon.

Here's a great post from a Dolphins fan (I don't want to take the credit)

"Of course the "statistic" or I don't know if you want to call it that but whatever it is, the point that might trump all points is this.

1. Todd Gurley missed almost a half of a game in Week 1 of 2013 with a hip flexor injury which went on to affect him the whole year.
2. Gurley then took an ankle injury in Week 5 of 2013, missing half of the game as well as the following 3 games.
3. He missed almost a half a game in his Week 10 return from the ankle injury with "nausea that accompanied his return from injury".
4. Fast-forward to preseason 2014, there's rumor Gurley dealt with a knee injury during the preseason.
5. Then even though he hadn't played in a month due to suspension, he was seen wearing a huge elbow brace in his return against Auburn.
6. Finally he takes the ACL injury with 5 minutes left to play in the Auburn game in 2014.

When Todd Gurley returned from the ankle injury in 2013, the Bulldogs had him averaging less than 15 yards per carry after returning from injury, admitting they were trying to strike a balance between his impact and getting him to be healthy into the fourth quarter.

As of December 30th, 2013 his coach Mark Richt noted "He's still not where he was the first time he galloped down the field at Clemson (Week 1). Remember that vision and that look? I don't think he's there."

Gurley himself hinted that the Week 5 ankle injury was so bad it threatened to see him shelved the rest of the year: "I missed some games, but I could have been out the whole year. I guess I'm lucky I was able to come back and still play"

Four of Georgia's five losses in 2013 came with Todd Gurley out, sidelined for a significant chunk of the game, or limited due to injury concerns. The strained quad in Week 1 against Clemson caused him to sit the rest of the game after his 12th carry. They lost the game 35-38. Then they lost to Missouri (26-41) and Vanderbilt (27-41) while he sat out with the ankle injury. They lost to Auburn 38-43 with Gurley limited to 15 carries due to not wanting to wear him out.

How was the feel of Gurley's season to teammates? “I feel like this year sort of got taken from him because of the injuries,” (Jordan Jenkins).

How about some subtle hints from teammates that Gurley needs to prepare better if he wants to make it through the season healthier?


“The sky’s the limit for that guy,” offensive guard Chris Burnette said. “Him having another year to train and get prepared, he’ll probably make this year and last year look like nothing.”Or...


Junior receiver Chris Conley plans to make sure Gurley stays on top of things this offseason.

“I’m not going to be letting up on him at all,” Conley said. “He’s going to be coming in here with me every day. Then I expect him to ball out. Kid’s an extreme talent.”How much was the "injury prone" label stuck onto Todd Gurley BEFORE he tore his ACL in 2014? Two things. Georgia took out an insurance policy on his behalf which pays up to $5 million should he get injured in a way that affects his draft status ("loss of value"), and another $5 million if he never plays again. You can also find articles dated August 2014 titled "Todd Gurley takes offense to being called injury-prone"."

Again, I don't see scouts overlooking this stuff. They do more thorough checks than the average fan and draft analyst.

Ironic you have the audacity to call Gurley an injury prone back but call Murray a beast lol. The rest of your comment after "I save the beast label for guys who stay on the field" is completely useless.

 

[mattjames2010]

Come on. You have to consider that if Gurley were to drop to them they would have a big decision on their plate. Gurley and Teddy B for the long haul vs. AD for 2 more years at best.

There is no question if Gurley is going to drop to them, he's going to be there when their pick comes up. Him going in the top 10 is pretty slim and the mock drafts saying he's going in the top 10 now are either click-bait material or because it's the 25th mock draft a site has done and that's their last exciting scenario. And it's not a question if Vikings would take Gurley, it's who will take AP from the Vikings.

 

[mattjames2010]

Ironic you have the audacity to call Gurley an injury prone back but call Murray a beast lol. The rest of your comment after "I save the beast label for guys who stay on the field" is completely useless.

I've backed up everything I've said about Murray. Really want to go down that road again? It didn't end well for you, remember?

 

[KalEl]

I've backed up everything I've said about Murray. Really want to go down that road again? It didn't end well for you, remember?

You have to admit your description of Gurley is very comparable to Murray. Like Gurley, Murray only stayed on the field 1 season. Now you are going to act as though that's not a fitting comparison ironically made by you??

 

[superonyx]

Look at his career stats, I'll take that kind of production. Look at 2013 specifically when he had those nagging injuries the entire season. Again, unlike Gordon (only because he's the only other highly talked about prospect) Gurley faced far better defenses.

I'm on the fence over Gurley.....I will point out that Nick Chubb was better than Gurley last year for Georgia. Chubb had over 1500 yards and 7.1ypc with 14 TD. Imagine if he didn't have to share carries with Gurley.
I bring this up because of the concerns that Gordon is only a system guy playing poor defenses.

 

[mattjames2010]

You have to admit your description of Gurley is very comparable to Murray. Like Gurley, Murray only stayed on the field 1 season. Now you are going to act as though that's not a fitting comparison ironically made by you??

First off, I have said all along that criticisms of Murray and his injuries was justified, I have never said otherwise. What I did say is this, Murray stayed relatively healthy and had no true nagging injuries since the 2012 season. When I say nagging injuries, I'm talking injuries that clearly hurt his performance. My main arguments of Murray is what he did while he was on the field when people said he was "average" or just a "good back". Lastly, we drafted Murray in the third, not in the first. Bigger risk involved here.

Actually, one more thing, Murray's injury history in college was nothing compared to what Gurley had, and it's not even close. We are now discussing a player who has a far worse track record with injuries than even Murray.

I actually hope Gurley goes to the Chargers because I don't want the Cowboys to even have a chance of considering taking him.

 

[superonyx]

I've backed up everything I've said about Murray. Really want to go down that road again? It didn't end well for you, remember?

This immature post really makes you look like a message board troll. There is no winning an Internet argument.
The fact that you just tough talked and said this automatically excludes you from any winners category.

 

[KalEl]

I'm on the fence over Gurley.....I will point out that Nick Chubb was better than Gurley last year for Georgia. Chubb had over 1500 yards and 7.1ypc with 14 TD. Imagine if he didn't have to share carries with Gurley.
I bring this up because of the concerns that Gordon is only a system guy playing poor defenses.

Teams game planned for Gurley. Can't say the same for Chubb until this year. Chubb looked good no doubt.

 

[Stash]

You just have to laugh at the arrogance and hubris on display here.

"This is happening guys!"

"This isn't happening guys!"

So much know-it-all on display here, just like there was with the people saying "there's no chance this team is signing Greg Hardy, get over it!"

But of course the same folks who stated that falsehood as fact are loathe to admit that they, in fact, didn't know what they were talking about then either.

They just move on like a swarm of locusts to the next thing that they claim to know for certain.

All from the comfort of their couch.

 

[phildadon86]

I've backed up everything I've said about Murray. Really want to go down that road again? It didn't end well for you, remember?

Ended perfect for me. More people agree with me that you are just a Murray homer who only uses stats that fit scenarios that make your agenda based arguments more conclusive. Lol. Also the fact you are saying that Gurley is injury prone and not a beast completely negates everything you said about Murray. As I'm sure 90 percent of this board realizes.

 

[Silver N Blue]

What leaked trade?

...tomorrow a rumor is going to leak we traded 27th, randle, williams, and dmac to the Titans for 2nd pick, Brian orakpo, and next year's number 3. We will then trade the 2 to the Eagles for 20, 2, 3, Sanchez, Mathews, kendricks, and money to pay Polk. We will then trade our 2, 3 Mathews, money for Polk to Minn for All Day and McKinnon. That leaves us with the Eagles 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to go with our other four picks plus AD. The kicker AD reups his deal and signs a new 3 yr 28 mill deal. Only #28 total dollars is guaranteed as rumors have surfaced AD is on immediate decline. Bank it! ....playing to our crowd man)

 

[mattjames2010]

This immature post really makes you look like a message board troll. There is no winning an Internet argument.
The fact that you just tough talked and said this automatically excludes you from any winners category.

Then label me a troll or consider me "immature". Your opinion of my personality means absolutely nothing.

Someone referencing a week old argument deserves a response like that.

 

[KalEl]

First off, I have said all along that criticisms of Murray and his injuries was justified, I have never said otherwise. What I did say is this, Murray stayed relatively healthy and had no true nagging injuries since the 2012 season. When I say nagging injuries, I'm talking injuries that clearly hurt his performance. My main arguments of Murray is what he did while he was on the field when people said he was "average" or just a "good back". Lastly, we drafted Murray in the third, not in the first. Bigger risk involved here.

Whatever, you put your foot in your mouth. Your description of Gurley is the exact description one can use for Murray.

Murray IS injury prone I don't care how you want to spin it. One healthy season is why he was taken in the 3rd and he wasn't spectacular when healthy like Gurley is.

Same reason 31 other teams including the Cowboys wanted nothing to do with paying big money to an injury prone back this year.

Gurley up until he hurt his knee was considered a sure fire top 10 pick. Murray wasn't never considered anything but a day 2 or 3 guy.

 

[mattjames2010]

Ended perfect for me. More people agree with me that you are just a Murray homer who only uses stats that fit scenarios that make your agenda based arguments more conclusive. Lol. Also the fact you are saying that Gurley is injury prone and not a beast completely negates everything you said about Murray. As I'm sure 90 percent of this board realizes.

It didn't end well. You had absolutely nothing to back up your argument and you then went on to say I was an undercover Eagles fan. Do you not remember this?

 

[esloan]

You just have to laugh at the arrogance and hubris on display here.

"This is happening guys!"

"This isn't happening guys!"

So much know-it-all on display here, just like there was with the people saying "there's no chance this team is signing Greg Hardy, get over it!"

But of course the same folks who stated that falsehood as fact are loathe to admit that they, in fact, didn't know what they were talking about then either.

They just move on like a swarm of locusts to the next thing that they claim to know for certain.

All from the comfort of their couch.

Well, I will be here regardless of whether Peterson is or not. The thing is, all of the evidence is on the people who say he won't be here's side. From Stephens quote to what Jerry has said to all these reports saying no interest.

The other side has AP'S phone call to Jerry a year ago and Stephen wearing a purple shirt.