Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

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SilverStarCowboy said:
AD will be a Cowboy by Training Camp.
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Only way that happens is if he is released and wants to play for about what McFadden got...or I should say what they offered Murray which was a little more than 4 million.

Why would Peterson want to do that?
 
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pansophy said:
Only way that happens is if he is released and wants to play for about what McFadden got.
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Seeing a Carr trade on the horizon, Cap impact with Hardy money for missing 6 games and Carrs absorbent contract.


Brandon Carr gives Dallas 5 million, plus 5 million from Hardy suspension = 10 Million for ALL DAY.

Peterson will hold out of training camp and force the Vikings hand.
 
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I also don't get why people think we are a RB away from a Super Bowl. We had the best back in the league last year by 500 yards. AP only ran for yards during his 2000 yard campaign and we didn't even get to the championship game.
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Because it doesn't just come down to the amount of yards a RB gets.

Let me give you an example. Dez Bryant is so good he requires double teams all the time. When he gets double teamed it opens up the door for us to take advantage or one on ones or that extra defender doesn't have a chance to stop the running back etc. Dez can have a game where he only gets 50 yards but still has a great game because of how he helped the team by drawing extra defenders to him.

The best RB/WR/QB isn't always the one who racks up the most yards/ TD's in a season.

You are just being shortsighted without knowing it.
 
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Because it doesn't just come down to the amount of yards a RB gets.

Let me give you an example. Dez Bryant is so good he requires double teams all the time. When he gets double teamed it opens up the door for us to take advantage or one on ones or that extra defender doesn't have a chance to stop the running back etc. Dez can have a game where he only gets 50 yards but still has a great game because of how he helped the team by drawing extra defenders to him.

The best RB/WR/QB isn't always the one who racks up the most yards/ TD's in a season.

You are just being shortsighted without knowing it.
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well said
 

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ufcrules1 said:
Because it doesn't just come down to the amount of yards a RB gets.

Let me give you an example. Dez Bryant is so good he requires double teams all the time. When he gets double teamed it opens up the door for us to take advantage or one on ones or that extra defender doesn't have a chance to stop the running back etc. Dez can have a game where he only gets 50 yards but still has a great game because of how he helped the team by drawing extra defenders to him.

The best RB/WR/QB isn't always the one who racks up the most yards/ TD's in a season.

You are just being shortsighted without knowing it.
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We had the highest rated QB, WR with the most TDs, and RB with the most yards last season. That was created for exactly the reason you described. It still wasn't enough to get us more than 1 playoff win because the defense couldn't slow down a strong passing attack.

If there was no cap we would have just signed Murray, but in the a resource restricted environment where every dollar and pick spent on offense is less spent on defense we must make choices.

We are losing because of poor defense and have been for some time. We needed the money to spend on Hardy and the picks to fortify defense. With a stronger defense we won't have to have an 1800 yard RB to win.
 
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We had the highest rated QB, WR with the most TDs, and RB with the most yards last season. That was created for exactly the reason you described. It still wasn't enough to get us more than 1 playoff win because the defense couldn't slow down a strong passing attack.

If there was no cap we would have just signed Murray, but in the a resource restricted environment where every dollar and pick spent on offense is less spent on defense we must make choices.

We are losing because of poor defense and have been for some time. We needed the money to spend on Hardy and the picks to fortify defense. With a stronger defense we won't have to have an 1800 yard RB to win.
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This is all true, but the offense as built is singularly defined by the running game. If that is not optimal, everything else falls apart.

I have zero problems with focusing the majority of our resources on defense this year. But not sparing ANY of them for a majorly key position on the offense could really upend us too.
 

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This is all true, but the offense as built is singularly defined by the running game. If that is not optimal, everything else falls apart.

I have zero problems with focusing the majority of our resources on defense this year. But not sparing ANY of them for a majorly key position on the offense could really upend us too.
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Well I think Stephen believes the running game is driven by the OL more than Murray. He got a 1000 yards before contact. Having a 1600 yard runner isn't vital to success. We simply must be able to have balance.

I do believe that if a RB we liked fell to us that we would have drafted him. But I like the BPA strategy that we have employed the last few years.

I just don't think Jones deviates here from not wanting to spend significant resources on a 30 year old RB. Whether he is right or not we won't know until we see some preseason games, but I think this is where we are at and barring some huge development that makes Peterson both available and affordable, it's not happening.
 
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esloan said:
You guys keep pushing the goal line. First he would be a Cowboy by draft day. Then a Cowboy by draft day two. Then a Cowboy by draft day three. Now its by training camp.....
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Before this thread ends, someone one will post that Peterson will sign a ceremonious 1 day contract with Dallas and then retire.
 
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We had the highest rated QB, WR with the most TDs, and RB with the most yards last season. That was created for exactly the reason you described. It still wasn't enough to get us more than 1 playoff win because the defense couldn't slow down a strong passing attack.

If there was no cap we would have just signed Murray, but in the a resource restricted environment where every dollar and pick spent on offense is less spent on defense we must make choices.

We are losing because of poor defense and have been for some time. We needed the money to spend on Hardy and the picks to fortify defense. With a stronger defense we won't have to have an 1800 yard RB to win.
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Our team was good last year because of the run game period. Before the draft we added Hardy, got Lee back and now have a 100% Demarcus Lawrence. We have focused soley on defense and completely ignored the running game in the the draft.

We know for a fact that a solid running game makes us successful. What we don't know is will a potential great defense and scrub RB's make us better?
I prefer to go with what we KNOW works.

This season will now be a mystery. Will Romo be able to be as successful as he was last year? I seriously doubt it.

We certainly needed to improve the defense but we shouldn't have neglected the running game altogether. That will have bad consequences. Keep in mind DMF played in only 1 full season since joining the league in 2008.
 
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Our team was good last year because of the run game period. Before the draft we added Hardy, got Lee back and now have a 100% Demarcus Lawrence. We have focused soley on defense and completely ignored the running game in the the draft.

We know for a fact that a solid running game makes us successful. What we don't know is will a potential great defense and scrub RB's make us better?
I prefer to go with what we KNOW works.

This season will now be a mystery. Will Romo be able to be as successful as he was last year? I seriously doubt it.

We certainly needed to improve the defense but we shouldn't have neglected the running game altogether. That will have bad consequences. Keep in mind DMF played in only 1 full season since joining the league in 2008.
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Run game keeps Romo healthy
 

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ufcrules1 said:
Our team was good last year because of the run game period. Before the draft we added Hardy, got Lee back and now have a 100% Demarcus Lawrence. We have focused soley on defense and completely ignored the running game in the the draft.

We know for a fact that a solid running game makes us successful. What we don't know is will a potential great defense and scrub RB's make us better?
I prefer to go with what we KNOW works.

This season will now be a mystery. Will Romo be able to be as successful as he was last year? I seriously doubt it.

We certainly needed to improve the defense but we shouldn't have neglected the running game altogether. That will have bad consequences. Keep in mind DMF played in only 1 full season since joining the league in 2008.
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AP has had injuries too. He also could have another incident of abuse. The data also strongly points to decline at 30 for RB.

What do we know works in this situation? People are acting like AP is 26 with no injury history and no off the field issues. None of this is true.
 
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