Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[viman96]

Yeah, going to the Super Bowl isn't a realistic goal for Cowboys fans..........

Helps to understand what I was getting at before replying.

It is a pipe dream if they think it is going to happen with Peterson on the roster.

 

[dallasdave]

Yeah, going to the Super Bowl isn't a realistic goal for Cowboys fans..........

Thanks for pointing that out to him, cause we were real close last year.

 

[dallasdave]

Helps to understand what I was getting at before replying.

It is a pipe dream if they think it is going to happen with Peterson on the roster.

Peterson is coming to the Cowboys, so smoke that in your pipe.

 

[viman96]

Peterson is coming to the Cowboys, so smoke that in your pipe.

Take a big hit on the pipe then lean back and dream on brohter

 

[pansophy]

I don't understand your point? Adrian Peterson is better than Murray. Murray needed a historic workload to hit his 1800 yards.

Let me put it this way if Murray and Peterson both got 300 carries behind this line next season.... I think our results would be vastly improved with Peterson toting the rock than Murray.

If Peterson got 392 carries last year behind this line I believe he would have done better than the 1800 yards Murray achieved.

I'd that simple enough for you to understand?

So your plan is to give a 30 year old RB the ball 390 times? Ok.

 

[dallasdave]

Take a big hit on the pipe then lean back and dream on brohter

ok that's smoke a peace pipe

 

[yimyammer]

Dogra: "I actually, as an agent, not only appreciate it — I accept it. But actions speak louder than words. If that's going to happen, and you want to keep him, then show him a commitment to make him retire as a Viking. And I haven't had that solution."

AP will play for Minny.

Will Minny pay him? I am guessing Minny will pay him more then anybody else?

Or is camp AP, making an outrageous demand in money, in order to push Minny into releasing him?

I don't like that change in their position. AP will actually play for Minny......if the price is right...
maybe he isnt that disgruntled? -- i don't know, but I don't like it.

AP is under contract with Minny to be paid 15 mill this year, if they don't want to pay that amount, then AP has all the leverage.

The proper play is to wait and call Minnys bluff because paying AP 15M is horrific cap mgt and I still don't believe they'll pay it, so unless AP decides to renegotiate and stay with them, he'll eventually be released and before the season starts because his 2015 salary would be fully guaranteed if he's on the team to start the season (if I understand how the NFLs vested veteran works).

Is this correct and does it apply to APs 2015 salary:

Every year at this time, we begin to eyeball NFL rosters for veteran players who could be cut due to the reality that, if they are on any team as of Week One, their full base salaries become, as a practical matter, guaranteed.

The rule comes from Article XXIII of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which provides each player having four or more seasons in the league with a one-time right to “termination pay.”

If a so-called “vested veteran” is on a team at the start of the season and thereafter is released, he has the right to collect the balance of his base salary for the season — even if he later signs with another team.

 

[speedkilz88]

Yes, vested vets base salaries are guaranteed wk 1.

 

[reddyuta]

AP is under contract with Minny to be paid 15 mill this year, if they don't want to pay that amount, then AP has all the leverage.

The proper play is to wait and call Minnys bluff because paying AP 15M is horrific cap mgt and I still don't believe they'll pay it, so unless AP decides to renegotiate and stay with them, he'll eventually be released and before the season starts because his 2015 salary would be fully guaranteed if he's on the team to start the season (if I understand how the NFLs vested veteran works).

Is this correct and does it apply to APs 2015 salary:

a part of me believes Jerry s doing just that,waiting for Ad to force the Vikings to cut him.If the vikings really want to pay him 15 million for the next 3 years then Spielman is dumber than i thought.

 

[AmericasTeam81]

a part of me believes Jerry s doing just that,waiting for Ad to force the Vikings to cut him.If the vikings really want to pay him 15 million for the next 3 years then Spielman is dumber than i thought.

How and why would the Vikings have to pay him if he refuses to play games?

 

[cheftjpeck]

So is he a cowboy yet ?

 

[cheftjpeck]

How and why would the Vikings have to pay him if he refuses to play games?

Vikings would still have to pay AP his salary ... However they would be able to fine him once the mandatory stuff starts
The truth is, teams have plenty of levers to pull. There's the aforementioned $70,000 fine for skipping a mandatory minicamp. There's the penalty -- up to $30,000 -- they can assess the player for every missed day of training camp. They can also dock each guy the equivalent of a game check -- 1/17th of his salary -- for missing a preseason contest. And if an under-contract player doesn't report by Aug. 5, he loses an accrued season.

 

[reddyuta]

How and why would the Vikings have to pay him if he refuses to play games?

he can pull a Ratliff and make it unbearable for them in other ways.,not sure they need this headache with a young and extremely talented team.

 

[yimyammer]

How and why would the Vikings have to pay him if he refuses to play games?

He'll show up for 15 million

 

[cheftjpeck]

he can pull a Ratliff and make it unbearable for them in other ways.,not sure they need this headache with a young and extremely talented team.

^^^^ This
The Vikings can and do hold the cards because of his contract but it's all in how much the Vikings want to deal with the presumed headaches and strife.. Something like this can have a huge negative impact on a locker room as well as a huge distraction ... Do they really want that on a young team ? Personally I still believe the Vikings won't blink first .. Petersons agent is already back pedaling and sending mixed messages .. So most likely AD or AP will probably remain a Viking

 

[JoeBoBBY]

he can pull a Ratliff and make it unbearable for them in other ways.,not sure they need this headache with a young and extremely talented team.

I am not sure AP has that in him. If he is on the field. He is playing hard. And I don't think he fakes an injury either. I would guess he is itching to get on the field.....He only has a few years left of playing the game he loves.

all that is just my opinion. I want the Vikes to balk at paying him all that money. And let him go.....

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I am not sure AP has that in him. If he is on the field. He is playing hard. And I don't think he fakes an injury either. I would guess he is itching to get on the field.....He only has a few years left of playing the game he loves.

all that is just my opinion. I want the Vikes to balk at paying him all that money. And let him go.....

And the Vikings GM said on a radio podcast Peterson is chasing Emmitt Smith's record, it is important to him. No way he sits out all year.

 

[DallasEast]

So is he a cowboy yet ?

You may wish to hold onto that question until the thread hits 800 pages for greater dramatic effect.

 

[Bleu Star]

You may wish to hold onto that question until the thread hits 800 posts for greater dramatic effect.

800? We eclipsed that weeks ago.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So your plan is to give a 30 year old RB the ball 390 times? Ok.

That's not actually what I said at all.

Are you reading what i'm typing? Are you understanding what you're reading?