After cuts and restructures, how much Cap room can we have left?

[khiladi]

I don't think you can let Spencer and Ware and hatcher all walk at the same time. I think you let Ware go and try to sign both hatch and Spencer

You can get a good deal for Spencer for one year, cause people fear his knee injury affecting performance.

 

[xwalker]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/demarcus-ware/

look at his current deal. he has no guaranteed money in 2014 only the prorated bonus hits, we can get a new deal done to take his salary down to league minimum. Might not be 3 million but you can get it down to 4 or 4.5 million. Still gives you more cap space than releasing him

You have to add in 1/4 or 1/5 of the restructure bonus. He has 4 years remaining which would make it 1/4, but they could add a year which would make it 1/5.

I'll use 1/5 which would result in the lowest possible 2014 cap hit:

$3,753,750 Prorated Bonus
$12,250,000 Base
$840,000 Veteran Minimum

$11,410,000 Base - Veteran Min {this is the restructure bonus}
$2,282,000 (Restructure Bonus) / 5

2014 Total
$6,875,750 (Vet Min + Pro Rated Bonus + Restructure Bonus / 5)

 

[xwalker]

Rather have Tuck's younger teammate Linval Joseph if possible.

This.^

 

[xwalker]

What's wrong with you. How conveniently you left out my naming of Ware who in fact will save the team 7.4 million when we release or trade him. His 2014 cap number is 16 mil and in 2017 is 17.5 mil Imagine that! ....as for Austin, I cut him in June and free up $5.5 million to move the Cowboys to around $6 million in cap space which can used for the rookie class when they sign in June and July.
cap wise ....
We have two players getting a majority of the money next year. Romo and Carr.
Romo the only thing we can do with him is restructure. Not even possible to cut him.
Carr.... solid for the most part...(looked terrible Sunday) .... but I've never thought he was 12-13 million a year solid ...... we really need to rethink him.
Fastest way to fix our cap would be redo Romo .... and bite the bullet on Carr... and just eat it ...... With Jerry not likely to happen.
We're in cap hell from back money being pushed forward..... gonna be hard to fix this brown stuff Jerry has us knee high in.
Can't cut Carr...too much dead money 16.8 million .... split it over two years... saves us 4 million next year....
If he plays he cost 12.2 to be on the field Second highest paid on the field next year ... behind only Romo
12.7 and then 13.8 the following two years ..But restructure Romo .....When we get free of the dead money on Carr we could pay off Romo and in 2 years
be out of cap Purgatory. And even Jerry won't overpay in free agency this year.
Just my 2 cents on this though ...... Possibly the worst defense in history ...
Not a single player on it should make 10 mil a season much less more than that.

Agree, I think.

They can't cut Romo or Carr due to the cap hits; therefore, they must restructure them. Carr is only 27 and should bounce back with better players around him.

Ware can be cut immediately and save 7.5M.

Austin can be a June 1st cut which saves 5.5M.

They can get under the cap without doing anything with Ware or Austin; They need to do something with Ware to be able to sign any free agents.

Making Austin a June 1st cut will more than cover the cost of signing all draft picks.

 

[theSHOW]

Agree, I think.

They can't cut Romo or Carr due to the cap hits; therefore, they must restructure them. Carr is only 27 and should bounce back with better players around him.

Ware can be cut immediately and save 7.5M.

Austin can be a June 1st cut which saves 5.5M.

They can get under the cap without doing anything with Ware or Austin; They need to do something with Ware to be able to sign any free agents.

Making Austin a June 1st cut will more than cover the cost of signing all draft picks.

I read your comments and see you have a decent handle on the financial side of this sport. Always glad to get a little support that just maybe I have a clue of what the Cowboys cap issues are as we go into the new year.

 

[theSHOW]

Agree, I think.

They can't cut Romo or Carr due to the cap hits; therefore, they must restructure them. Carr is only 27 and should bounce back with better players around him.

Ware can be cut immediately and save 7.5M.

Austin can be a June 1st cut which saves 5.5M.

They can get under the cap without doing anything with Ware or Austin; They need to do something with Ware to be able to sign any free agents.

Making Austin a June 1st cut will more than cover the cost of signing all draft picks.

I am not expecting any big contracts to be taken on in free agency unless we work on keeping our young nucleus. I am hoping these restructures wind down a bit so the team is not stretched out paying for guys who are not on the roster. Of course the key is drafting well and Dallas will survive the hell that currently is.

 

[Q_the_man]

Just cut everyone that needs to be cut, trade whoever has value, tanked 2014 and start fresh in 2015. That's how we get out of cap hell, take all the cap hit in 2014 get a top 3 pick, I'm tired of these lame duck 8-8 seasons.
If we keep patching up our team and don't bring in fresh talent we are doomed for another 5 years of the same team.

 

[conner01]

if you make all cuts june 1 cuts. you cut ware,austin and orton. you restructure romo,witten and carr. you tender jones and bailey. you could have plenty of money to sign a top nothched free agent for the dline and still have money for mid level guys. we are not in near as bad of shape as some think. most contracts were stuctured to deal with this upcoming cap season. evn if you extend dez you are still in good enough shape to add for help to the team

 

[xwalker]

I am not expecting any big contracts to be taken on in free agency unless we work on keeping our young nucleus. I am hoping these restructures wind down a bit so the team is not stretched out paying for guys who are not on the roster. Of course the key is drafting well and Dallas will survive the hell that currently is.

I'm in favor of cutting Ware/Austin and bringing in as many YOUNG free agents as possible.

They can manage the cap as long as the players getting paid are on the team and producing. It's the dead-money that makes cap management difficult. They could be almost completely free of dead-money in 2015 if they cut Ware prior to June 1st. All of the dead-money from Ware and Ratliff would be off the cap in 2015. They also have some remaining dead-money from Livings, Spears and Lissemore on the 2014 cap that will be gone in 2015. That would leave just the 2nd part of the dead-money from making Austin a June 1st cut.

I would put all efforts towards peaking in 2015. If a player is unlikely to be on the team in 2015, then I don't want him in 2014. I would just move on from Ware, Austin, Spencer, and Hatcher.

 

[xwalker]

if you make all cuts june 1 cuts. you cut ware,austin and orton. you restructure romo,witten and carr. you tender jones and bailey. you could have plenty of money to sign a top nothched free agent for the dline and still have money for mid level guys. we are not in near as bad of shape as some think. most contracts were stuctured to deal with this upcoming cap season. evn if you extend dez you are still in good enough shape to add for help to the team

They can't wait until June 1st to do something with Ware. All of the free agents will be gone by then. They free up 7.5M by cutting him in March. That is enough to sign 2 players to 50M contracts or 4 players to 25M contracts. Carr's first year cap hit on his 50M contract was 3.6M (3.6M x 2 = 7.2M).

 

[theSHOW]

They can't wait until June 1st to do something with Ware. All of the free agents will be gone by then. They free up 7.5M by cutting him in March. That is enough to sign 2 players to 50M contracts or 4 players to 25M contracts. Carr's first year cap hit on his 50M contract was 3.6M (3.6M x 2 = 7.2M).

Would love to see us get a 5th round choice for DeMarcus and turn around and draft another LB or DE to add to the young mix. Not a fan of spending on virtually any free agents other than a sprinkling until we experience lack of depth due to injury or roster moves.

I'm in favor of cutting Ware/Austin and bringing in as many YOUNG free agents as possible.

They can manage the cap as long as the players getting paid are on the team and producing. It's the dead-money that makes cap management difficult. They could be almost completely free of dead-money in 2015 if they cut Ware prior to June 1st. All of the dead-money from Ware and Ratliff would be off the cap in 2015. They also have some remaining dead-money from Livings, Spears and Lissemore on the 2014 cap that will be gone in 2015. That would leave just the 2nd part of the dead-money from making Austin a June 1st cut.

I would put all efforts towards peaking in 2015. If a player is unlikely to be on the team in 2015, then I don't want him in 2014. I would just move on from Ware, Austin, Spencer, and Hatcher.

Spencer for 1 year could be the free agent type signing I'm talking about.

 

[TheCount]

A lot of comments about cutting Ware. Do people actually think that's going to happen?

I think you're looking at a very lean FA approach this year. People talk about the restructures like it's magic an there are no consequences, but sooner or later, some tough decisions will have to be made. Some of the guys we're used to seeing out there on Sunday are not going to be with the team much longer and we are going to have to go short on talent due to some bad contracts in the past.

Everyone's gotta pay the piper sometime.

 

[tantrix1969]

Ware will not be cut, might be extended to make his cap hit drop. Ware might be willing to take a pay cut but he will not be cut.Jerry will make several excuses to keep Ware. Ware has been hurt all year and being doubled teamed, with more help on the DL Ware will be a pro bowler again. All things jerry will say.

Also extending Ware to a new deal would be more Cap beneficial than cutting him for next year.

Spencer is gone anyways next year so he isn't on the payroll for next year, this is his last year of the deal so letting him walk does nothing to the cap.
Same for Hatcher, this his last year of the deal so again him gone does not save us any money next year.

Miles will only help the cap if he is a June 1st cap cut.

Right now the 2-14 cap is set to be 128 million, with the dead money and next years cap we are set to be at 148.5 million. We need to clear 20.5 million to just get under the cap.

Ware hasn't been getting double teamed this year, that's why many have came to believe he is done.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Would love to see us get a 5th round choice for DeMarcus and turn around and draft another LB or DE to add to the young mix.

I doubt anyone would trade for Ware because they wouldn't want to assume the base left on his contract.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

A lot of comments about cutting Ware. Do people actually think that's going to happen?

I think you're looking at a very lean FA approach this year. People talk about the restructures like it's magic an there are no consequences, but sooner or later, some tough decisions will have to be made. Some of the guys we're used to seeing out there on Sunday are not going to be with the team much longer and we are going to have to go short on talent due to some bad contracts in the past.

Everyone's gotta pay the piper sometime.

Do I think Ware will be cut? I mean like 100% sure?

No.

But I do think either he accepts a salary reduction or is cut.

 

[rynochop]

I hate the thought of ware in another uni, but geez..he.s had 1 sack since the rams game on sept 22. (i dont count the qb fall down against the bears)
I think you have to let another team hope he can return to form.

 

[TheCount]

Do I think Ware will be cut? I mean like 100% sure?

No.

But I do think either he accepts a salary reduction or is cut.

I don't really think either is likely, not based off seemingly one year of sub par play (it's been more than one year, I know).

I don't think you can ask him to take a cut and Jerry is too loyal to cut the guy. An extension might be more likely to spread the money out.

It's extremely year a "star" is asked to take a pay cut. The only reason we'd even be asking is because we are broke, which is a terrible way to do business.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't really think either is likely, not based off seemingly one year of sub par play (it's been more than one year, I know).

I don't think you can ask him to take a cut and Jerry is too loyal to cut the guy. An extension might be more likely to spread the money out.

It's extremely year a "star" is asked to take a pay cut. The only reason we'd even be asking is because we are broke, which is a terrible way to do business.

Who knows. Maybe you're right. Maybe they will handle it through an extension.

You're right that in the pre-cap days stars wouldn't be asked to take a pay-cut.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

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Speculation:

Miles, Spencer, Hatcher and Ware get cut.

Lee, Romo, Witten and Carr restructured.

Cant cut Hatcher. He won't be under contract. He just won't get resigned.

Spencer won't either and because of those two facts there is zero chance of them cutting Ware.

 

[cowboys1981]

We should make DT Linval Joseph our first priority in FA. If possible we need to go after DE Jared Allen as well. On top of that we need to draft more players on the Dline. This is very possible.