After the season is over I dont think anyone will argue on Merriman

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STSINAZ;1099621 said:
WE DONT need another linebacker to stop the run or cover...we have ones that do that...singleton, burnett....we need one who can destroy the quarterback BECAUSE WE ARE IN A 3-4 AND THE OBJECT OF THE 3-4 IS FOR THE LINEBACKERS TO GET TO THE QUARTERBACK...YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO COME FROM ALL SIDES AND THE OTHER TEAM IS NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHEN..WE DONT EVEN TRY THAT...WE LINE UP AND RUSH ELLIS AND WARE...AND NEITHER CAN GET THERE! SO IN THIS CASE FOR OUR TEAM I WOULD TAKE MERRIMAN OVER WARE BECAUSE WARE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE WHO WAS A SURE SHOT TO THE QB ON EVERY PLAY...

find your friggin return key.

lose the all caps key.

see if you can make a trade somewhere.
 

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My questions is.... who cares?

We could have drafted Tom Brady 5 times over and I don't see anyone complaining about that.
 

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Hostile;1099615 said:
I'd rather have Ware any day of the week. Character matters. Ware is probably my favorite player in the game right now. I couldn't be happier that we drafted him. It isn't possible. I don't care if some can't appreciate how well rounded he is as a player. Those who constantly look at sacks alone know less about the game than I care to address.

HEY HOSTILE DONT MEAN TO GET HOSTILE WITH YOU BUT...lol....for what our team needs merriman fits better...we need someone with better pashrushing skills...we have NO ONE WHO CAN GET THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS...ELLIS IS MEDIOCRE ....WARE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT guy...so if I am going to draft someone to strictly rush the passer because i have no one...i would draft the better passrusher...logic...especially when the guy takes over games and puts fear into the other team...ware puts fear in no one...LT's take him out of the game...no names at that
 

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Catch-22;1099626 said:
My questions is.... who cares?

We could have drafted Tom Brady 5 times over and I don't see anyone complaining about that.
cause merriman does that cool sack dance;)
 

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STSINAZ;1099627 said:
HEY HOSTILE DONT MEAN TO GET HOSTILE WITH YOU BUT...lol....for what our team needs merriman fits better...we need someone with better pashrushing skills...we have NO ONE WHO CAN GET THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS...ELLIS IS MEDIOCRE ....WARE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT guy...so if I am going to draft someone to strictly rush the passer because i have no one...i would draft the better passrusher...logic...especially when the guy takes over games and puts fear into the other team...ware puts fear in no one...LT's take him out of the game...no names at that

Typing in all caps means that you are yelling at someone. Try bolding or underlining if you want to emphasize something.
 

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Hostile;1099615 said:
I'd rather have Ware any day of the week. Character matters. Ware is probably my favorite player in the game right now. I couldn't be happier that we drafted him. It isn't possible. I don't care if some can't appreciate how well rounded he is as a player. Those who constantly look at sacks alone know less about the game than I care to address.

Great point. Sacks are one of the most overrated statistics in the game. Sacking a QB twice on one drive, then losing contain on a sweep giving up a TD goes down in the record book as a great game.
 

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iceberg;1099624 said:
find your friggin return key.

lose the all caps key.

see if you can make a trade somewhere.

I'm guessing you mean the PC and not a trade for Merriman. ;)
 

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Jarv;1099330 said:
Merriman was not better than Ware last year, nor will he be this year. As far as stats go Merrirman beat Ware in sacks last year, 10-8.

Ware had more tackles...tackles for loss (want to argue TFL vs. sacks and their importance...another thread sometime), forced fumbles and fumble recoveries.

This year its shaping up for the same thing, Merrimen getting more sacks, with Ware leading the other departments.

By the way, they are tied with 1 INT each, difference is that Ware ran his back for a TD. So Ware leads in the scoring department also.


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Yakuza Rich;1099101 said:
Hell, if you watch film Merriman has a sizeable advantage with having both Jammal Williams and Luis Castillon on the team. Both are the rare 3-4 players that can play 2 Gap responsibility and pressure the QB.

Ferguson has played well, but he's there just to stop the run. He doesn't command nearly the attention that Williams gets.


YAKUZA

We could have had both Castillo and Merriman along with Ratliff. That's what frustrates me.
 

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AtlCB;1099640 said:
Typing in all caps means that you are yelling at someone. Try bolding or underlining if you want to emphasize something.

TRY READING IT rather that complaining
 

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kartr;1099662 said:
We could have had both Castillo and Merriman along with Ratliff. That's what frustrates me.

We could have also had Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Shaun Alexander, Tom Brady, etc.

My point is that its ridiculous to debate over hypotheticals, I know its fun and helps to pass time but essentially its just a mute point.
 

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I'll take Ware over Mary-man anyday, but something STSINAZ said got me thinking about Carp vs. Lawson, 3-4 LB's are supposed to come from all sides, the logic to Carp's drafting was he'd drop back and DWare would be free to rush. Now we see IMO more often than not Ellis rushing and DWare droping (not to mention Carp in street clothes), wouldn't Lawson had given us more flexibility that way?
 

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TYPING in all caps sometimes is used to denote the emphatic nature by which I would be speaking to you if we were in person.
 

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STSINAZ;1099627 said:
HEY HOSTILE DONT MEAN TO GET HOSTILE WITH YOU BUT...lol....for what our team needs merriman fits better...we need someone with better pashrushing skills...we have NO ONE WHO CAN GET THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS...ELLIS IS MEDIOCRE ....WARE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THAT guy...so if I am going to draft someone to strictly rush the passer because i have no one...i would draft the better passrusher...logic...especially when the guy takes over games and puts fear into the other team...ware puts fear in no one...LT's take him out of the game...no names at that
If you don't mean to get "hostile" with me then drop the 7th grade all caps crap. Then I will respect your voice here. Then I will care about what points you bring up. Not until. I don't give credence to the attention demanding tricks. In fact I give it less credence.

If you honestly believe that teams do not fear Ware then you're quite simply wrong as usual. Ware is a well rounded, maturing player with strong character and no glaring weaknesses to his game. There are stats other than sacks to back this up if you'd bother to open your eyes and look.

Draft who you want and dominate your Madden league. I could care less. This is about football and it's about winning. Jeff Ireland and Bill Parcells have skins on the wall with me with regards to who they draft and why. You don't. I had Ware above Merriman on my draft wish list. Character is the main reason.

Now, you get anything else to flap your gums about with me, hostile or otherwise?
 

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Hostile;1099716 said:
If you don't mean to get "hostile" with me then drop the 7th grade all caps crap. Then I will respect your voice here. Then I will care about what points you bring up. Not until. I don't give credence to the attention demanding tricks. In fact I give it less credence.

If you honestly believe that teams do not fear Ware then you're quite simply wrong as usual. Ware is a well rounded, maturing player with strong character and no glaring weaknesses to his game. There are stats other than sacks to back this up if you'd bother to open your eyes and look.

Draft who you want and dominate your Madden league. I could care less. This is about football and it's about winning. Jeff Ireland and Bill Parcells have skins on the wall with me with regards to who they draft and why. You don't. I had Ware above Merriman on my draft wish list. Character is the main reason.

Now, you get anything else to flap your gums about with me, hostile or otherwise?


wrong as usual? thats funny...and you use the fact that since jeff ireland and bill parcells have skins on the wall they are right? so by your logic that point can be made on any of the draft picks...do you see how your point is skewed a little...i guess jacob rogers, peterman.etc.etc.etc...were good because they picked them and they have skins on the wall...come on man you have to come a little harder than that...seriously...i understand all the different stats other than sacks but as far as what this team needs.....we dont need another average run of the mill, get my 8 sacks in a 3-4 defense that needs me because i am one of the only passrushers. We need a force there that would be feared....teams fear merriman, they just swat ware away with no name LT's with no help....if I wanted to be mediocre and just have someone who can stop the run, the pass and get to the qb occasionally...well we had that already and his name is al singleton..he also put on 20 pounds for you too
 

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STSINAZ;1099081 said:
he's at 5.5 sacks now compared to 2 sacks for ware...and will probably hit 12 or 13...ware probably will be right around 8 again...i dont think there will be any argument that we should have drafted merriman..he is a beast...teams are worried about him and they account for him like they do for roy williams...just think if we had two players like that on our team! bad move jerrah...should have drafted the better passrusher...he is a game changer while ware is just a good player...merriman will be great if he is not already...and i dont want to hear about this zimmer bend but dont break defense...i see ware rushing ALOT AND HE JUST CANT GET THERE...BOTTOM LINE

great, another bonheaded Merriman over Ware post

memo to you and other like fools, MERRIMAN AND WARE DO NOT PLAY IN THE SAME SYSTEM....WADE PHILLIPS IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN PARCELLS AND ZIMMER

they create all sorts of chaos and havoc with their version of the 3-4...its not what we do here...put Merriman here and Ware in SD, and everyone would be saying Parcells blew it by not taking Ware

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Whats the point of this. It's like the whole Vi vs. Emacs argument. Vi/Ware are clearly better! :spanking:
 

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kartr;1099662 said:
We could have had both Castillo and Merriman along with Ratliff. That's what frustrates me.

sure we could have had them, and nither one would be doing the same thign here that they are in SD

I dont know why this is so hard for people to get, but the SCHEME does make a difference...we dont do ANYTHING that looks like what San Diego does

David
 

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dbair1967;1099745 said:
great, another bonheaded Merriman over Ware post

memo to you and other like fools, MERRIMAN AND WARE DO NOT PLAY IN THE SAME SYSTEM....WADE PHILLIPS IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN PARCELLS AND ZIMMER

they create all sorts of chaos and havoc with their version of the 3-4...its not what we do here...put Merriman here and Ware in SD, and everyone would be saying Parcells blew it by not taking Ware

David

well why didnt we just draft an o linemen with that pick then cause we already had what ware is now...his name is al singleton...pretty stupid...i guarantee you they want ware to get sacks...merriman would have 5 by now if he was in our system...LT had 21 one year didnt he? didnt he reak havoc? lol....you need to have a better comeback than that d bare
 
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