After Watching the NFL this weekend The NFC Champion is

[mattjames2010]

Yes the throws were off by the wet ball and Dak not wearing gloves or long sleeves. He was affected by the cold. The ONLY other cold game he ever played was 1 game in college, That's it. His throws were high and off. No where near what we've seen him make during the regular season. As I said, Eli himself said the ball was wet, and his throws too were off. So I guess Eli's exuse too was lame by your reasoning.

LOL it wasn't their D. But keep coming back that is was the Giants great d for shutting down Dak in game 2. Or ignoring that game 1 was Dak/Zekes 1st regular season game where they see a full defense, unlike preseason.

LOL so it was due to the lack of gloves and long sleeves? Had nothing to do with the tight coverage Giants were showing all game, the blitzing, the ineffective running game Dak couldn't play off of. It was going sleeveless and a slick ball. Again, what was the excuse for Dak when he looked the same way in the first Eagles game when he was seeing the blitz?

Yes, Eli did say that. So what was his excuse for looking the same the previous few weeks?

Against Cleveland - 190 yards, 55% completion
Against Pittsburgh - 195 yards, 61% completion
Against Dallas - 193 yards, 60% completion

More overblown crap, like the home and away nonsense. Unless it's a downpour, the "The ball was slick!" excuse doesn't work. Dak was rattled, couldn't see down field, they bottled up the run game, and their CBs played tight. We were beaten were physically beaten. Even IF the weather played a factor, that doesn't take away the amount of hurries and misreads of blitzes and tight coverage that was on our receivers.

So nowhere are you even coming close to countering what I'm saying. Try again, chief.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

And OP flawlessly continues his streak of starting terrible threads in order to gain attention on internet message boards.

I say we burn his barn and kill his chickens, bloke!
We tolerate this and ... and soon our way of life is gone.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

LOL so it was due to the lack of gloves and long sleeves? Had nothing to do with the tight coverage Giants were showing all game, the blitzing, the ineffective running game Dak couldn't play off of. It was going sleeveless and a slick ball. Again, what was the excuse for Dak when he looked the same way in the first Eagles game when he was seeing the blitz?

Yes, Eli did say that. So what was his excuse for looking the same the previous few weeks?

Against Cleveland - 190 yards, 55% completion
Against Pittsburgh - 195 yards, 61% completion
Against Dallas - 193 yards, 60% completion

More overblown crap, like the home and away nonsense. Unless it's a downpour, the "The ball was slick!" excuse doesn't work. Dak was rattled, couldn't see down field, they bottled up the run game, and their CBs played tight. We were beaten were physically beaten. Even IF the weather played a factor, that doesn't take away the amount of hurries and misreads of blitzes and tight coverage that was on our receivers.

So nowhere are you even coming close to countering what I'm saying. Try again, chief.

Dak can throw in tight coverage. But in the cold and his throws being off, he wasn't sharp. Duh. Of course you are gonna say overblown crap. Crap is all you have when it comes to ignoring the weather and the ball being wet. Giants didn't blitz on every possession. Giants didn't bottle up the run game. Zeke had 24 carries for 107 yds. 4.5 ypc. How is that being bottled up? We just didn't go to Zeke enough. We weren't beaten weren't physically beaten. So nowhere are you even coming close to countering what I'm saying. Try again, chief.

I can do this all day long, every day. You want to play this game, go ahead. I have a lot of free time.

 

[mattjames2010]

Dak can throw in tight coverage. But in the cold and his throws being off, he wasn't sharp. Duh. Of course you are gonna say overblown crap. Crap is all you have when it comes to ignoring the weather and the ball being wet. Giants didn't blitz on every possession. Giants didn't bottle up the run game. Zeke had 24 carries for 107 yds. 4.5 ypc. How is that being bottled up? We just didn't go to Zeke enough. We weren't beaten weren't physically beaten. So nowhere are you even coming close to countering what I'm saying. Try again, chief.

I can do this all day long, every day. You want to play this game, go ahead. I have a lot of free time.

Can he? Because in games where he faced tight coverage, he failed to do so on a consistent basis. LOL Still waiting for you to show me what got him in the Eagles game. Let me guess, the bye and he was rusty?

And I didn't say Giants "blitzed on every possession" - Stop arguing against an argument not made. I said the blitzes rattled him and the coverage was tight down the field.

Giants were hurrying Dak, beating us at the line, winning matchups down the field, bottling up the run in the second half, and rattled our QB and kept us out of the end zone for 3 quarters. We were dominated and were physically outmatched, yet again against them.

Zeke's longest run in that game was 15 yards and 13 yards. In the second half, here was Elliott's runs

3 yards
No gain
13 yards
2 yards
4 yards
-1 yards
-6 yards
2 yards

Our running game was shut down in the second half, it was not working. Do your research next time. Next!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Can he? Because in games where he faced tight coverage, he failed to do so on a consistent basis. LOL Still waiting for you to show me what got him in the Eagles game. Let me guess, the bye and he was rusty?

And I didn't say Giants "blitzed on every possession" - Stop arguing against an argument not made. I said the blitzes rattled him and the coverage was tight down the field.

Giants were hurrying Dak, beating us at the line, winning matchups down the field, bottling up the run in the second half, and rattled our QB and kept us out of the end zone for 3 quarters. We were dominated and were physically outmatched, yet again against them.

Zeke's longest run in that game was 15 yards and 13 yards. In the second half, here was Elliott's runs

3 yards
No gain
13 yards
2 yards
4 yards
-1 yards
-6 yards
2 yards

Our running game was shut down in the second half, it was not working. Do your research next time. Next!

We weren't dominated and weren't physically outmatched. 2nd half we didn't commit to the run. Only 9 carries for 21 yds. 1st half, 14 carries for 86 yds. 6.0 ypc. We went away from the run game. This is FUN! Like my sig pic?

 

[mattjames2010]

We weren't dominated and weren't physically outmatched. 2nd half we didn't commit to the run. Only 9 carries for 21 yds. 1st half, 14 carries for 86 yds. 6.0 ypc. We went away from the run game. This is FUN! Like my sig pic?

Did you ever stop to think we went away from the run...because it was negatively impacting the game? You know, losing yards and putting us in 2nd and third and longs simply wasn't helping. Think we would have abandoned the run if Elliott was consistently getting 4-5 yards? That's not how our offense operates. You're not even attempting to think at this point.

I'll give you one last shot to put together a solid argument. Thus far, this is the arguments you put forth.

- We weren't physically outmatched
- Dak doesn't like the cold, needs sleeves
- Raw statistics
- Failed troll attempt

One last shot. Make it a good one!

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Did you ever stop to think we went away from the run...because it was negatively impacting the game? You know, losing yards and putting us in 2nd and third and longs simply wasn't helping. Think we would have abandoned the run if Elliott was consistently getting 4-5 yards? That's not how our offense operates. You're not even attempting to think at this point.

I'll give you one last shot to put together a solid argument. Thus far, this is the arguments you put forth.

- We weren't physically outmatched
- Dak doesn't like the cold, needs sleeves
- Raw statistics
- Failed troll attempt

One last shot. Make it a good one!

We had 9 total runs in the 2nd half. We didn't commit to it. You DON"T EVEN have a clue in reality, much less anything of a thought process. You said they dominated us and disgraced us. The stats don't show it. Total yards for both teams. Defensive sacks and takeaways for both teams. Final score was 10-7, that doesn't show it.

You don't run this board or this post. I'll be here all day, every day and making posts.

 

[mahoneybill]

There's a real chance that Giants are one and done for the 4th time in the Eli era.
They do look really strong on D, but the Packers now are 2-3 TDs better than they were early in the year. They're rolling.
That game can go either way.

The more I think about this give us Pack, as a matchup in the SB should be either Brady or Big Ben, both more consistent passers than Eli, and better for us to be tested along the way with the likes of Rodgers/Ryan to toughen us for that match should we get there.....

 

[maxdallasfan]

Atlanta scares me. Nobody else does.

 

[Joe Realist]

ATL or GB

 

[BourbonBalz]

I was going to post the following yesterday watching the Giants-Red Skin game, but decided to wait until this morning. The Cowboys will lose against a great defense and the Giants have one. If we stick with what we had in the two loses to the Giants the outcome will be the same. So, the Cowboys will have to do something different with what they have or . . . . go . . . . . with . . . . Romo! He can win the game with the Giants or Atlanta. This should be in the game plan for these playoff games!

“the Giants! Yes, I saw a great defense choke the life out of the Commanders. I hate to say it but Eli wins his third Super Bowl ring. Each time the Giants have won a Super Bowl they had the best DL in the NFL. This time they have a better defense. I would give the Cowboys runner up to the NFC but we would have to have a better defense than the Giants to win.”

How much are you willing to bet???

 

[BourbonBalz]

The "away" and "home" stuff is so overblown in sports it's ridiculous. How have they done on the road? Well, let's see.

They went 4-4 on the road. .500, which isn't bad. Let's see how your theory holds up.

2007 Giants, 7 out of the 9 final Giants games were road games, 4 of which came in the playoffs. 2011 5 out of their last 8 games were road games, 3 of which came in a row during the playoffs.

Seems Giants do just fine on the road, especially Eli.

2007 and 2011 have absolutely NOTHING to do with this year!!!!! NOTHING!!!!!

 

[BourbonBalz]

Can never rule the Giants out their defense always steps up in the playoffs. They have a knack for containing high-powered offenses. They didn't mail it in last week like we did and are heading into the playoffs with momentum. Despite them beating us twice this season you have some on this board who still think we'll walk all over them if we meet up in the playoffs. This has more of an 07 feel to it every day.

What their defense has done in the past has nothing to do with this year. The personnel and coaching staff are completely different from 2007 and 2011. Comparing what they've done in the past and assuming they'll do the same this year is moronic.

 

[kramskoi]

Atlanta scares me. Nobody else does.

Yep...good Tight Ends, excellent WR, career season QB, maybe not great, but potent running back. Defense is lacking however...but I don't think Seattle will beat them at home, should they meet for the second time in the divisional round. With Earl Thomas now lost for the season, I don't think they will be able to control the scoring, having barely beat Atlanta at home.

If it comes down to Dallas vs. Atlanta, then ball control for Dallas will be essential to improve their chances, although Atlanta will not have faced a multi-faceted offense of the type Dallas brings...nor the improving nickel package Dallas likes to run against high receiver sets.

Offensive balance by team (P/R):

Seattle.........58.4 / 41.6% (1591 yds rushing)
Atlanta.........56 / 44% (1928 yds rushing)
Green Bay...51.8 / 48.2% (1701 yds rushing)......not expected.
New York.....60 / 40% (1412 yds rushing)
Detroit..........62.9 / 37.1% (1310 yds rushing)
Dallas..........49.2 / 50.8% (2396 yds rushing)

Dallas..........48.4 / 51.6% (2354 yds rushing)************** 2014

 

[aikemirv]

I am honestly surprised every time the Giants win a game with the way Eli is playing.

I don't think they make it past Green Bay. Once they lose (NYG) it is all going to be resting on our Defense and slowing down teams like Atlanta and Green Bay enough for our offense to win the game. I think they can do it with a good bit of pressure on the QB. I see games like the Pittsburgh and Washington game in our playoff future.....

I don't think any other defense in the NFC or AFC for that matter can slow down our offense barring rash of penalties.

 

[mattjames2010]

We had 9 total runs in the 2nd half. We didn't commit to it. You DON"T EVEN have a clue in reality, much less anything of a thought process. You said they dominated us and disgraced us. The stats don't show it. Total yards for both teams. Defensive sacks and takeaways for both teams. Final score was 10-7, that doesn't show it.

You don't run this board or this post. I'll be here all day, every day and making posts.

You're now wanting to go in circles, we've been through this. Stop going back to arguments that were already dismantled. "We didn't committ" - Because the running game was ineffective in the second half outside of one run. Having 2-3 yard runs with back to back negative runs will push you from it.

And since you wanted to go full circle, it's over. You lose. I'm sorry. Maybe next time, buckaroo.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

ATL or GB

8-8

 

[KJJ]

What their defense has done in the past has nothing to do with this year. The personnel and coaching staff are completely different from 2007 and 2011. Comparing what they've done in the past and assuming they'll do the same this year is moronic.

The Giants have a history of playing good defense and winning championships with solid defense. Every SB they've won has been mostly due to their defense. They've been able to contain very potent offenses over the years in SB's like the Bills and the Pats. Despite the passing decades, coordinators and head coaches the Giants have always won with defense.

 

[Longboysfan]

Nice little analysis there, but the Giants aren't that good. If we stick with our gameplan on offense and actually hold onto the 5 interceptions that Eli throws us we'll be fine.

I'll go with this.

Pressure Eli and the watch for the watermelons he throws up.

 

[rwalters31]

The Giants have a history of playing good defense and winning championships with solid defense. Every SB they've won has been mostly due to their defense. They've been able to contain very potent offenses over the years in SB's like the Bills and the Pats. Despite the passing decades, coordinators and head coaches the Giants have always won with defense.

You have it right. Right now there are two great defenses in the playoffs. Go to the Stats charts and high light the defensive points allowed. You will see New England number one and the Giants number two. Do you believe in history and does it repeat itself? Does defense win championships (look at the last two Giants Super Bowls and last years Super Bowl). Great offenses have been laid waste in the playoffs for as long as I can remember. If you are a betting man, put your money on the great defenses.

Now for the predictions for this weekend
1. Seahawks vs Lions - This one is not a history data prediction but one based on injuries. I am not comfortable with this but the two big injuries and the win/losses have me almost picking the Lions. But, Seahawks in Seattle with the third best points allowed defense are hard to beat, give me Seattle in a very close game.
2. Giants vs Green Bay - This one is easier to pick. The Giants will make Green Bay one dimensional with passing as their only offensive weapon. The Giants beat the Cowboys with very good talent, but it was their schemes that wreaked havoc on Dak and Zeke (more on this next week). This is what is going to make Rogers inaccurate and lead to miss reads and bad decisions causing 3 or 4 turn overs and two pick 6s. Eli will be more cautious this game (not beating himself) but lead drives that result in 3 field goals. Green Bay will have a hard time scoring 14 points and the Giants should be around 23 points.