Aikman on WFAN in NY

[gimmesix]

Most people are influenced by what others around them are saying, and I don't think Aikman is an exception. The national media is harping on how that one flag pickup was the story of the game, so it's going to be the story of the game ... whether through the unending questions about it or the way individuals are influenced to think about it.

It's like with most things, though. When you dig deeper, there are so many things that can be pointed to for why Dallas won and Detroit lost. It's just too bad that so many either don't take the time or have the ability to truly break things down.

Let me revise what I'm saying after reading the full Aikman quote. It appears that he is just answering one of the unending questions that make that the story of the game. He didn't really offer any opinion on the pass interference other than to say that picking up the flag was surprising, which it was since bad calls are made all the time. He actually did a good job of not jumping on the national bandwagon despite being pushed that direction.

 

[Idgit]

How is it likely that the Lions would win? What if the Defense forces them into a Field Goal? What if the Defense gets a turnover when the Lions are in the red zone? Even if the call was made there is no guarantee that the Lions would have gotten a TD.

Yeah. For a team that gave up two strip-fumbles and almost had a red zone pick in that same game, you can't really say what might have happened if they'd given them the defensive holding there. Or screwed up and let the PI call stand. We'll never know, if any of us actually even care.

 

[dupree89]

I just went back and listened again and this is verbatim...
He was asked...What are your thoughts as you look back on the Lions/ Cowboys game?

and verbatim...

The pass interference call, it likely, its hard to say with any real certainty, but its likely that cost Detroit the game.
That they likely win the game, you know, if that pass interference was upheld. The fact that it was overturned was surprising, I've never seen it.

(and then he goes on to discuss how the NFL needs to make pass interference calls reviewable because they are such important penalties)

 

[ghst187]

Its likely Dallas loses the Lions game if the right call was made.
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love Troy but I disagree strongly, i think we win 24-23 and it WAS the correct call

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

Concussion...

Yes, he has said he doesn't remember anything about the game.

 

[Doomsay]

Yes, he has said he doesn't remember anything about the game.

Seems to have had a carry-over effect on his observations of the Detroit game last week.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

Seems to have had a carry-over effect on his observations of the Detroit game last week.

I heard the interview, I thought he was very fair, nothing that I would disagree with.

 

[Doomsay]

I heard the interview, I thought he was very fair, nothing that I would disagree with.

You should disagree with the part about the non-call penalty singularly costing the Lions a victory because it is fashionable and stupid. Also the bit about never having seen a PI call reversed.

 

[CowboyChris]

You should disagree with the part about the non-call penalty singularly costing the Lions a victory because it is fashionable and stupid. Also the bit about never having seen a PI call reversed.

100% accurate

 

[big dog cowboy]

How is it likely that the Lions would win?

They wouldn't have.

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

You should disagree with the part about the non-call penalty singularly costing the Lions a victory because it is fashionable and stupid. Also the bit about never having seen a PI call reversed.

I don't remember anything in the interview about him saying that it cost them the game, and I think he meant to say hes never seen a pi call reversed so late.

 

[Doomsay]

I don't remember anything in the interview about him saying that it cost them the game, and I think he meant to say hes never seen a pi call reversed so late.

from the OP: "The pass interference call, it likely, its hard to say with any real certainty, but its likely that cost Detroit the game.
That they likely win the game, you know, if that pass interference was upheld. The fact that it was overturned was surprising, I've never seen it."

I often listen to Troy locally on the FAN, he is far more interesting there than during the games IMO, but I just think that he is parroting the acceptable line regarding the Lions game - to do otherwise would belie him as a homer (in his mind).

 

[wileedog]

Aikman was deadly accurate.

Romo has a higher career completion % and higher YPA, and its been consistent his whole career, even when the team around him has stunk. IMO Romo's arm has always been under-rated because he doesn't have a cannon.

Troy was a smarter, more disciplined and far more conservative QB with a no doubt stronger arm. Parcell's probably would have killed to coach him. But Romo brings athleticism Troy couldn't have dreamed of and the ability to create plays out of nothing, which was never something Troy did very much (for better or worse).

As for Troy's announcing, I think too many Cowboys fans and Cowboys haters spend way, way, WAY too much time time parsing every word out of Aikman's mouth for some sort of agenda, when the reality is he probably pretty much saying what he thinks 99.9% of the time and it really hasn't occurred to him what anyone thinks of his partisanship. I've never understoon why people get worked up about what he says more than any other announcer. He works for FOX now, not Jerry.

 

[percyhoward]

I just think that he is parroting the acceptable line regarding the Lions game - to do otherwise would belie him as a homer (in his mind).

I agree. I think Aikman sees neutrality as a large part of his job description, whether it is or not.

 

[jobberone]

Time to move on from the 'CALL'. It's Friday evening here on the East coast and there are games tomorrow and THE GAME Sunday.

Tony from Wisconsin now Dallas outguns his counterpart in Green Bay. Car will give Sea all it wants tomorrow. We either go home or possibly play Car at home next Sunday. Either way I don't care as long as we make it to the next game. One at a time.

 

[tyke1doe]

from the OP: "The pass interference call, it likely, its hard to say with any real certainty, but its likely that cost Detroit the game.
That they likely win the game, you know, if that pass interference was upheld. The fact that it was overturned was surprising, I've never seen it."

I often listen to Troy locally on the FAN, he is far more interesting there than during the games IMO, but I just think that he is parroting the acceptable line regarding the Lions game - to do otherwise would belie him as a homer (in his mind).

1.) Are you all missing the bold? He's not saying definitely that it cost the Lions the game. He says he can't say with any certainty. But in his opinion, the call likely cost Detroit the game. And that play had a huge impact on the game, whether Cowboys fans want to admit it - or not.
2.) To your last statement, or, maybe he believes the call was incorrect. Everything is not a conspiracy. Dallas fans can disagree and argue their points on the basis of logic and observation. If that weren't the case then every last person here who believes the call should have been overturned would be dismissed for being a Cowboys homer.

After seeing the play, it really should have been a holding penalty on Hitchens. But that wasn't the call. Then he face guards but doesn't touch the player. It shouldn't have been a penalty at all. But once they dropped the flag, being objective, I don't think they should have picked up the flag. But it worked out to our advantage, and it's not like questionable calls haven't gone against us, so I'm not complaining about it.

 

[Risen Star]

1.) Are you all missing the bold? He's not saying definitely that it cost the Lions the game. He says he can't say with any certainty. But in his opinion, the call likely cost Detroit the game. And that play had a huge impact on the game, whether Cowboys fans want to admit it - or not.
2.) To your last statement, or, maybe he believes the call was incorrect. Everything is not a conspiracy. Dallas fans can disagree and argue their points on the basis of logic and observation. If that weren't the case then every last person here who believes the call should have been overturned would be dismissed for being a Cowboys homer.

After seeing the play, it really should have been a holding penalty on Hitchens. But that wasn't the call. Then he face guards but doesn't touch the player. It shouldn't have been a penalty at all. But once they dropped the flag, being objective, I don't think they should have picked up the flag. But it worked out to our advantage, and it's not like questionable calls haven't gone against us, so I'm not complaining about it.

He grabs his jersey and then definitely makes contact with his shoulder.

I agree, plenty of calls go the other way. I just refuse to pretend this one didn't go our way when we were clearly deserving of two penalties. Three, if you count Dez running onto the field with his helmet off.

 

[tyke1doe]

He grabs his jersey and then definitely makes contact with his shoulder.

I agree, plenty of calls go the other way. I just refuse to pretend this one didn't go our way when we were clearly deserving of two penalties. Three, if you count Dez running onto the field with his helmet off.

You're just a Cowboy hater.

 

[DallasDomination]

I read blah blah blah then Jason Garrett comment popped out. Now there's some good signs and news there. keep at it Jason Garrett.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Romo has a higher career completion % and higher YPA, and its been consistent his whole career, even when the team around him has stunk. IMO Romo's arm has always been under-rated because he doesn't have a cannon.

Troy was a smarter, more disciplined and far more conservative QB with a no doubt stronger arm. Parcell's probably would have killed to coach him. But Romo brings athleticism Troy couldn't have dreamed of and the ability to create plays out of nothing, which was never something Troy did very much (for better or worse).

As for Troy's announcing, I think too many Cowboys fans and Cowboys haters spend way, way, WAY too much time time parsing every word out of Aikman's mouth for some sort of agenda, when the reality is he probably pretty much saying what he thinks 99.9% of the time and it really hasn't occurred to him what anyone thinks of his partisanship. I've never understoon why people get worked up about what he says more than any other announcer. He works for FOX now, not Jerry.

I just finished listening to the NFLN Replay Game of the Week. It's embarrassing. Troy only has positive things to say regarding Detroit. Spoke about their good play designs and Stafford's great throws, etc., etc. Now consider, we are the home team. Most times, the home team gets the slanted commentary.

They had to switch to the Dallas broadcast to get anything positive on the NFLN Replay on Dallas' good plays. Only Joe Buck showed enthusiasm in the broadcast when Dallas did something good. When TWill scored the TD the only thing Troy had to say was "the defender fell down". It's so blatant. I tried to listen for Troy in a non-partisan aspect to give him the benefit of the doubt. Listen for yourself and see what you think.