All you Pac haters will be eating crow...

[TellerMorrow34]

Pac-man should sue the league if he gets suspended indefinitely... This whole episode is a joke.

Nevermind. I see that you changed it from indefinate to lifetime.

 

[tyke1doe]

Pac-man should sue the league if he gets suspended indefinitely... This whole episode is a joke.

He'd lose, just as you would likely lose if you sued your employer because he fired you for violating a reinstatement agreement you both voluntarily agreed to.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

So you can blame special teams for their crappy punt coverage but not their crappy punt blocking, because Adam Jones is returning punts?

I can lay blame as I so choose without a single concern about your opinion to the contrary, but, if you decide to reread my post, it said that the original poster MIGHT be accurate. It did not say that it would be accurate with any certainty and it did not state that I assigned blame to Jones or the Punt Return Team for his low average.

 

[tyke1doe]

His 52 teammates were shocked with the suspension handed down to him, thinking it was way too harsh.

They're his teammates who need him. Of course, they're going to be shocked.

 

[Randy White]

You cannot possibly think suspending him indefinitely is fair for what he did.

No, it's not fair, but it is right.

Here's the thing: it's not what he did, it's that he DID IT.

I was a strong supporter for bringing him in. I thought it was a gamble well worth it because of his talent level compared to the price the Cowboys paid to get him. But you know what ? Like somebody famous once said:

" Stupid is as stupid does ".

This guy had to have his own boss control his financing so he wouldn't throw his money away. That's embarrassing for a so called " man " who has a young daughter. And even so, he STILL went around his boss' back and did what he wanted.

This guy, according to an article today, didn't listen to coaches, even though he was no more than a " rookie ", in terms of player status within the team, trying to win a spot.

This guy had to be told, several times, by the same boss who put his money, team chemistry, and his reputation on the line for him, to " chill out ". He was told several times to stay out of the limelight. This guy did NOT listen.

I have absolutely NO problems if Jerrah decides to release him as soon as I post this. NONE. There are knuckleheads who just don't know any better ( Leon Lett comes to mind ), but are good people down deep inside, and there are knuckleheads who are just plain selfish stupid idiots.

Pacman is the latter.

 

[khiladi]

I just love the ESPN support when it comes to Pac-man... What happened to the hypocrisy, the speculation, the drama that ESPN is when it comes to any and everything that is the Cowboys?

Goodell has already made it clear that the possibility for Adam is open to come back in the league, depending on how he acts. If it was that bad, he wouldn't have said it is about how Pac-man acts.

The incident is nothing but drama... Do you think this is anything but a publicity stunt by the NFL and the Cowboys? And Jerry got pacified with the Titan's pick...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

His 52 teammates were shocked with the suspension handed down to him, thinking it was way too harsh.

yeah because they were going to come out and say "Really? Only 4 games possibly? I thought he'd get a year at least, for sure."

 

[joseephuss]

My bad... I mean life-time ban... He should sue them for specifically targetting him...

Odell Thurman has had it worse than Pacman.

I don't think Pacman will get a lifetime ban. It may end up being longer than the estimated 4 games, but I doubt it will become a lifetime ban. I actually think it will only be 4 games. Of course I thought it would be know more than 2 for this incident, so what do I know. That is based on if nothing else happens over the next 4 weeks. If he gets in trouble again, then my opinion might change.

 

[khiladi]

He'd lose, just as you would likely lose if you sued your employer because he fired you for violating a reinstatement agreement you both voluntarily agreed to.

We'll see... He could argue he was forced into signing an agreement to play and this was his only way out...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I just love the ESPN support when it comes to Pac-man... What happened to the hypocrisy, the speculation, the drama that ESPN is when it comes to any and everything that is the Cowboys?

Goodell has already made it clear that the possibility for Adam is open to come back in the league, depending on how he acts. If it was that bad, he wouldn't have said it is about how Pac-man acts.

The incident is nothing but drama... Do you think this is anything but a publicity stunt by the NFL and the Cowboys? And Jerry got pacified with the Titan's pick...

So you think that Jerry some how made sure this suspension happened...because he wanted a pick? I guess you believe he told Jones to break terms of his reinstatement so that it could all go down like this?

What a silly notion.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

We'll see... He could argue he was forced into signing an agreement to play and this was his only way out...

And he'll lose that argument as well.

 

[khiladi]

yeah because they were going to come out and say "Really? Only 4 games possibly? I thought he'd get a year at least, for sure."

And yet, ESPN is now telling us that many of his teammates are glad that AJ is no longer here and they didn't want him here in the first place. Now, all of the sudden, according to Ed Werder, their are unnamed sources in the league saying how Pac-man was ruining the team... please...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Odell Thurman has had it worse than Pacman.

I don't think Pacman will get a lifetime ban. It may end up being longer than the estimated 4 games, but I doubt it will become a lifetime ban. I actually think it will only be 4 games. Of course I thought it would be know more than 2 for this incident, so what do I know. That is based on if nothing else happens over the next 4 weeks. If he gets in trouble again, then my opinion might change.

Wait...no way? Another player who DOESN'T play for Dallas, and ISN'T Adam Jones, has also been harshly punished for repeated offenses?

You don't say!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

And yet, ESPN is now telling us that many of his teammates are glad that AJ is no longer here and they didn't want him here in the first place. Now, all of the sudden, according to Ed Werder, their are unnamed sources in the league saying how Pac-man was ruining the team... please...

Ed Werner and ESPN have been telling you every week for nearly three years that TO was going to explode and destroy this team as well. I suppose it's possible that maybe they've managed to get something right but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

 

[khiladi]

So you think that Jerry some how made sure this suspension happened...because he wanted a pick? I guess you believe he told Jones to break terms of his reinstatement so that it could all go down like this?

What a silly notion.

No, I said Jerry Jones got pacified with the picks, once the incident happened and became a drama publicity wise.

This is the same Jerry Jones that didn't suspend Pac-man and told them that their investigation showed Pac-man didn't do anything. JJ still maintains the punishment was harsh.

Are you saying JJ was ignorant of some alleged rules that said Pac-man couldn't drink? Where were the bodyguards employed by the organization while he was running up the tab, which he wasn't, allowed to do per ESPN? How does a drunk man stop fighting by himself? What did the police report say? It was a verbal argument that ended without any confrontation... Now the bodyguard is being attacked in the stall...

 

[khiladi]

Ed Werner and ESPN have been telling you every week for nearly three years that TO was going to explode and destroy this team as well. I suppose it's possible that maybe they've managed to get something right but I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

So what does that say about their reporting on Adam Jones and the incident and the Cowboys organization?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

So what does that say about their reporting on Adam Jones and the incident and the Cowboys organization?

I don't need to know what they reported. I know what Jerry reported from their findings, what Roger reported from their findings, and the fact that Deion has already said that they were drinking, having a good time, and things just got a little out of hand. Something that jerry also admitted was what happened.

And the drinking thing was all that was needed for him to lose his place in the league cause that violates his probation set forth for him as part of a plea from a previous situation. A judge set that. Roger, in turn, let him know that complying with his probation, in full, was part of his being reinstated. He didn't do that. He got suspended again.

Sorry but Jones can blame himself and be depressed over the fact that he's a moron. I won't feel for him at all.

 

[khiladi]

I don't need to know what they reported. I know what Jerry reported from their findings, what Roger reported from their findings, and the fact that Deion has already said that they were drinking, having a good time, and things just got a little out of hand. Something that jerry also admitted was what happened.

And the drinking thing was all that was needed for him to lose his place in the league cause that violates his probation set forth for him as part of a plea from a previous situation. A judge set that. Roger, in turn, let him know that complying with his probation, in full, was part of his being reinstated. He didn't do that. He got suspended again.

Sorry but Jones can blame himself and be depressed over the fact that he's a moron. I won't feel for him at all.

So what was the job of Jerry's detail that was suppose to protect Pac-man? They surely weren't doing their job, were they?

Like I said, this whole thing is a joke... There is nothing to investigate on and Goodell is nothing but a fraud...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

No, I said Jerry Jones got pacified with the picks, once the incident happened and became a drama publicity wise.

This is the same Jerry Jones that didn't suspend Pac-man and told them that their investigation showed Pac-man didn't do anything. JJ still maintains the punishment was harsh.

Are you saying JJ was ignorant of some alleged rules that said Pac-man couldn't drink? Where were the bodyguards employed by the organization while he was running up the tab, which he wasn't, allowed to do per ESPN? How does a drunk man stop fighting by himself? What did the police report say? It was a verbal argument that ended without any confrontation... Now the bodyguard is being attacked in the stall...

Actually what Jerry said was that they didn't find anything in the incident that showed he broke any of the rules put in place for him by the team. He never once said that Jones didn't break any rules put in place for him by Roger and the league.

He thinks it's harsh yet he said he agrees with and supports the commish decision? He got the picks because he put that in place when he made the deal with the Titans. HE wouldn't have put those things in place, to get those picks back, unless he figured that there was a really good shot that Jones would do what Jones has always done, screw up.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

So what was the job of Jerry's detail that was suppose to protect Pac-man? They surely weren't doing their job, were they?

Like I said, this whole thing is a joke... There is nothing to investigate on and Goodell is nothing but a fraud...

*Shrugs* Believe what you will. That doesn't change the fact that it's been admitted by Jerry, by Deion, that after speaking with Adam that it was a case of being out, drinking, and getting himself into trouble.

The guy could have stayed home, drank, partied, and got into that scuffle and guess what? No one would have even known about it cause it didn't happen in public and it wouldn't have gotten the cops called.

Instead he went out, drank (Which he wasn't supposed to be doing), the police got called and now he's in trouble again.

Still his fault, still no one to blame but himself, he's still a moron.