And so it begins...

[Crown Royal]

:ralph:


Why does Bledsoe insist on dressing like a 13 year old teenage girl at the mall?

 

[WoodysGirl]

Nah I dont jump in unless I have a solid case. In this instance I knew where he got his stat and knew exactly how to prove it wrong. Hence my involvment and his disappearance

Oh I know. But I also know that they could post something perfectly reasonable that somebody here may ALREADY have posted and some folks will jump on them and their redstink logic.


So of course, I have to tease you guys whenever I get a chance.

 

[WoodysGirl]

:ralph:


Why does Bledsoe insist on dressing like a 13 year old teenage girl at the mall?

Hey, it just gives me another reason to watch football.

Aaron Glenn wears his uni like that too.

 

[BigDFan5]

Oh I know. But I also know that they could post something perfectly reasonable that somebody here may ALREADY have posted and some folks will jump on them and their redstink logic.


So of course, I have to tease you guys whenever I get a chance.

Yeah but they are Skins fans, just for that they deserve to be mocked.

and you can tease me anytime

 

[illone]

Yeah but they are Skins fans, just for that they deserve to be mocked.

You still didn't address the QB information I posted. I guess I'm supposed to feel owned now?

Good job diverting attention away from that.

 

[illone]

I did some more investigating on this topic. Turns out I found even better stats to back up my point.

Randy Moss, who many believe is an elite WR in the NFL had a fairly low % caught number, 48%. I dug further into his numbers and found that when he had Culpepper as a QB, who was a consistent 60%+ completion QB, his numbers showed much greater %.

Moss caught 64.5% of the balls thrown his way in 2003 when Culpepper was completing 65%.

In 2005 Moss caught 48% while Collins completed 53%. Hardly a coincidence.

Another player, Plaxico Burress, whom I'm sure many would agree is much better than Brandon Lloyd caught 45% of the passes thrown his way from Eli Manning who last year was a 52% QB. In 2004 when Burress had Big Ben who was a 66% QB throwing him the ball, he caught 58%.

My point still stands here, QB play has much to do with the pass caught % of the receiver.

 

[superpunk]

I did some more investigating on this topic. Turns out I found even better stats to back up my point.

Randy Moss, who many believe is an elite WR in the NFL had a fairly low % caught number, 48%. I dug further into his numbers and found that when he had Culpepper as a QB, who was a consistent 60%+ completion QB, his numbers showed much greater %.

Moss caught 64.5% of the balls thrown his way in 2003 when Culpepper was completing 65%.

In 2005 Moss caught 48% while Collins completed 53%. Hardly a coincidence.

Another player, Plaxico Burress, whom I'm sure many would agree is much better than Brandon Lloyd caught 45% of the passes thrown his way from Eli Manning who last year was a 52% QB. In 2004 when Burress had Big Ben who was a 66% QB throwing him the ball, he caught 58%.

My point still stands here, QB play has much to do with the pass caught % of the receiver.

Brilliant point.

Except, when Lloyd had better QB play, his numbers - were worse. This was shown to you already, and ignored. He is awful no matter who his plays QB for him - no matter what number corner the other team throws at him. He is terribly inconsistent. QB completion percentage certainly DOES have something to do with a receivers catch percentage. But that explanation does not work for Lloyd.

You never had a point. At least not in regards to Lloyd. I've shown you how he's been miserable no matter who his QB is. I've shown you how his teammates manage to catch 15% MORE of their passes, from these same dreadful QBs. You choose to polish up red herrings and claim they're not crap.

Until you can explain how his teammates can post much better numbers than him, catching passes from the same QBs, AND how his catch percentage has been consistently awful no matter who is quarterbacking (his 48% with Smith & Co. was the best of his underwhelming career) I have nothing further to say. Address that, without bringing up more red herrings, and we'll talk.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Brilliant point.

Except, when Lloyd had better QB play, his numbers - were worse. This was shown to you already, and ignored. He is awful no matter who his plays QB for him - no matter what number corner the other team throws at him. He is terribly inconsistent. QB completion percentage certainly DOES have something to do with a receivers catch percentage. But that explanation does not work for Lloyd.

You never had a point. At least not in regards to Lloyd. I've shown you how he's been miserable no matter who his QB is. I've shown you how his teammates manage to catch 15% MORE of their passes, from these same dreadful QBs. You choose to polish up red herrings and claim they're not crap.

Until you can explain how his teammates can post much better numbers than him, catching passes from the same QBs, AND how his catch percentage has been consistently awful no matter who is quarterbacking (his 48% with Smith & Co. was the best of his underwhelming career) I have nothing further to say. Address that, without bringing up more red herrings, and we'll talk.

too much...TOO MUCH!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

illowned, your retort please?

 

[superpunk]

summer edited again.....

No green means he's gone. I'm sure he'll dig this up. He can't leave it alone. He needs to declare himself victor.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No green means he's gone. I'm sure he'll dig this up. He can't leave it alone. He needs to declare himself victor.

I edited my comment to be more family-friendly...

just so the mods know, esp. you WG, you're pretty quick on that trigger finger

anyways, yeah, illowned :laugh1:

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

skins having malcontents??? You gotta be kidding me!

Yeah didnt you hear?... the REAL Commander indians are forcing the Football Commanders to change their name to....

yeah you guessed it the ...................




Washington Malcontents

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You still didn't address the QB information I posted. I guess I'm supposed to feel owned now?

Good job diverting attention away from that.

I will take a shot at addressing your QB situation....

Here is the situation.... Brunell gets hit = your season is OVER!

How about that?

 

[iceberg]

I will take a shot at addressing your QB situation....

Here is the situation.... Brunell gets hit = your season is OVER!

How about that?

and if bledsoe gets "hit" - we're what again?

 

[5Stars]

Yeah didnt you hear?... the REAL Commander indians are forcing the Football Commanders to change their name to....

yeah you guessed it the ...................




Washington Malcontents

How about the Washington Drive By's

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

and if bledsoe gets "hit" - we're what again?

HEY!!!

LOL

Well... Bledsoe has proven to be MUCH MORE durable... and I have not heard of knee injuries for him etc....

thanks for chiming in though....

 

[illone]

I will take a shot at addressing your QB situation....

Here is the situation.... Brunell gets hit = your season is OVER!

How about that?

And if Bledsoe goes down I suppose you're in great shape?

 

[The30YardSlant]

And if Bledsoe goes down I suppose you're in great shape?

I'd take Tony Romo at this point over Jason "Oh ***, where'd Ronnie and Cadillac go" Campbell

 

[illone]

Until you can explain how his teammates can post much better numbers than him, catching passes from the same QBs, AND how his catch percentage has been consistently awful no matter who is quarterbacking (his 48% with Smith & Co. was the best of his underwhelming career) I have nothing further to say. Address that, without bringing up more red herrings, and we'll talk.

Not until you can explain why Jonny Morton who caught 47% of the passes thrown his way with SF(2005), yet when playing with Trent Green was able to grab 69%(2004).......

I can't wait to see you try to spin this one.

 

[superpunk]

Not until you can explain why Jonny Morton who caught 47% of the passes thrown his way with SF(2005), yet when playing with Trent Green was able to grab 69%(2004).......

I can't wait to see you try to spin this one.

You pick an isolated instance, that has nothing to do with Lloyd, and attempt to answer my question with a question.

You failed, Sparky. I'm not playing your stupid little game.