And so it begins...

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

illone said:
From what I've seen Lloyd does seem like a primadonna. I hear he's a wannabe rap star too, lol.

Thing is, though, you are not digging deep enough on your 40%. It's well documented that he only had 4 drops last year. The other misses were due to poor QB play. I understand you like to pretend Lloyd only catches 40% of the balls thrown his way, but at least be informed on what that number means.

"well documented" Give me links to more than one site saying this and you cant use Stats fantasy advantage website either since Brandon lloyd himself disputes their numbers

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

illone said:
Go ahead and cling to that one stat, superpunk. It's ok to ignore something equally if not more important than his catch %.

He only dropped 4 passes, and it's well documented, but hey let's ignore that simple fact and continue to say he's horrible based on the color of his uniform.

Does it even occurr to you that horrible QB play is part of the equation? How can you explain 4 drops and 44% passes caught? Please try to explain that and make sense.

You keep bringing up that bogus stat that Brandon Lloyd himself denies.

Where is it "well documented"

dargonking999 · Aug 2, 2006

BigDFan5 said:
You keep bringing up that bogus stat that Brandon Lloyd himself denies.

Where is it "well documented"

its well documented in the guys head, because he thinks that seeing a big CB getting ready to lay a hit on him so not even attempting to catch the ball is not considered a drop, so therefore its the QB's fault

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

dargonking999 said:
its well documented in the guys head, because he thinks that seeing a big CB getting ready to lay a hit on him so not even attempting to catch the ball is not considered a drop, so therefore its the QB's fault

I was kind of thinking the place where it was well documented was extremeskins myself

illone · Aug 2, 2006

RonBurgandy31 said:
Well i believe they are thrown to ALOT more then Lloyd

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/leaders.asp?year=P&type=NFL+Receiving&rank=052&Submit=Go

.... sir

Plaxico Burres 45%
Chris Chambers 49%
Muhammed 47%
Randy Moss 48%
Jerry Porter 53%

Interesting the common denominator in the above players. They all had QB's with horrible completion % throwing them the ball.

Kerry Collins 53%
Gus Frerotte 52%
Eli Manning 52%
Kyle Orton 51%
Rex Grossman 51%
Alex Smith 50%
Ken Dorsey 53%

Care to rebut this now, superpunk?

dargonking999 · Aug 2, 2006

BigDFan5 said:
I was kind of thinking the place where it was well documented was extremeskins myself

nah then it would be more like 0 drops, and a should have been probowler :lmao2:

illone · Aug 2, 2006

BigDFan5 said:
"well documented" Give me links to more than one site saying this and you cant use Stats fantasy advantage website either since Brandon lloyd himself disputes their numbers

Care to show me a link to prove that?

Sorry if I don't take your 'word' for it

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BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

illone said:
Care to show me a link to prove that?

Sorry if I don't take your 'word' for it.

Sure I already pulled up the link, and I will post it as soon as you answer where it was "well documented" that he had 4 drops other than on the FANTASY FOOTBALL website.

illone · Aug 2, 2006

I don't know what to tell ya. I don't have another source for dropped passes. Why don't you show me what you got if you're so confident?

I've already proven that bad QB play plays a fairly large part in the equation.

You can't disprove what's already been proven. I suppose you could try, lol.

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

illone said:
I don't know what to tell ya. I don't have another source for dropped passes. Why don't you show me what you got if you're so confident?

I've already proven that bad QB play plays a fairly large part in the equation.

You can't disprove what's already been proven. I suppose you could try, lol.

Ahh ok so I guess we can chalk up "well documented" to you just being full of **** then huh. Lloyd himself says he dropped 6 thats from Commanders.com, obviously you arent like most Cowboys fans and dont readl all the articles your team puts out

http://www.Commanders.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17994

DallasInDC · Aug 2, 2006

AnyGivenSunday said:
I echo this sentiment. This better be addressed immediately. If we need to look for depth at WR, so be it. But let's do so before the season begins.

I hate having to count on this punk. T.O. is a good player, but too many are jumping on his bandwagon too fast.

If I were the The Tuna, I'd make him practice with the 2nd team just to see how he reacts.

If he didn't like that, I'd keep him on the 3rd team until he changed his tune.

When you have these players getting ignorant and acting ignorant, you have to get on their level and get ignorant and act igrnorant, too. I'm telling you, that's the only way to deal with a guy like T.O.

Screw the nonsensical B.S. There is no place for this here, now, after what he's done. As soon as he starts up with this crap, he should recieve some sort of negative reinforcement, simply speaking, of course.

This is something that needs to be confronted, head on, BEFORE it becomes an issue.

If he doesn't respond like a changed player, then we should fire his punk arse, on the spot, no questions asked.

All of this T.O. being a Cowboy should be conditional on his behavior, especially amongst his own team.

This is a perfect example of how NOT to treat this situation. Playing these type of games with TO was a big reason the things happend the way they did in Philly.

I think BP will handle TO the RIGHT way by finding out what buttons to push to motivate him and being straight up with him.

illone · Aug 2, 2006

BigDFan5 said:
Ahh ok so I guess we can chalk up "well documented" to you just being full of **** then huh. Lloyd himself says he dropped 6 thats from Commanders.com, obviously you arent like most Cowboys fans and dont readl all the articles your team puts out

http://www.Commanders.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=17994

I read that. I didn't take it as concrete. You can, I suppose. Not saying it isn't true, I just find it hard to believe he would track those things.

Even if it is true do you really wish to split hairs over 2 more drops?

Would you like to comment on the rest of the points I made?

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

illone said:
I read that. I didn't take it as concrete. You can, I suppose. Not saying it isn't true, I just find it hard to believe he would track those things.

Even if it is true do you really wish to split hairs over 2 more drops?

Would you like to comment on the rest of the points I made?

Oh I see FANTASY football website is concrete "facts" for your argument

Your own team website and Brandon Lloyd HIMSELF No good enough for you LOL

I am not splitting hairs I am laughing at your proclaming "facts" and talking **** to superpunk who schooled your ***, and all the while your "facts" were BS from a fantasy site

Lets see what do we have so far

"well documented" has now been well documented as Bull****

"4 drops fact" has now been documented as bull****

So far all I see is your argument blowing up in your face, so the question about points you made doesnt interest me since all your points have been bull**** that you made up or found on a fantasy website

Brandon Lloyd caught 44% of the passes thrown to him, that my dimwitted friend IS a FACT.

DallasInDC · Aug 2, 2006

BigDFan5 said:
Oh I see FANTASY football website is concrete "facts" for your argument

Your own team website and Brandon Lloyd HIMSELF No good enough for you LOL

I am not splitting hairs I am laughing at your proclaming "facts" and talking **** to superpunk who schooled your ***, and all the while your "facts" were BS from a fantasy site

Lets see what do we have so far

"well documented" has now been well documented as Bull****

"4 drops fact" has now been documented as bull****

So far all I see is your argument blowing up in your face, so the question about points you made doesnt interest me since all your points have been bull**** that you made up or found on a fantasy website

Brandon Lloyd caught 44% of the passes thrown to him, that my dimwitted friend IS a FACT.

IllOne you just got :spanking: Thank you for playing buh bye now. Sorry, no consolation prizes but you can :crawl: to your deadskins board :lmao2:

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

May I just add

WoodysGirl · Aug 2, 2006

as for the original topic to this thread... I think these pics speak VOLUMES

BTW, more pics and blog recaps in the TC Zone.

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Dallas Cowboys quarterback Drew Bledsoe, left, talks with wide receiver Terrell Owens during the morning practice at Cowboys football training camp, Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2006, in Oxnard, Calif.

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Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells, left, talks with wide receiver Terrell Owens after the morning practice at Cowboys football training camp, Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2006, in Oxnard, Calif.

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Dallas Cowboys quarterback Drew Bledsoe, left, and wide receiver Terrell Owens walk off the field after evening practice at Cowboys football training camp, Wednesday, Aug. 2, 2006, in Oxnard, Calif.

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

WoodysGirl said:
as for the original topic to this thread... I think these pics speak VOLUMES

BTW, more pics and blog recaps in the TC Zone.

BOOOOO for staying on topic BOOOOOO :laugh2:

WoodysGirl · Aug 2, 2006

BigDFan5 said:
BOOOOO for staying on topic BOOOOOO :laugh2:

Man, you guys would argue w/a skins fan if he said the sky was blue...

Skins fan: Sky's blue today. Think the weather's gonna be nice today.

'Boys fan: Prove it! How do you know it's blue. It wasn't blue yesterday. MOF, it was raining. So you're gonna tell me it's gonna be blue today, after history has shown that it won't always be blue on any given day?

Da Hammer · Aug 2, 2006

WoodysGirl said:
Man, you guys would argue w/a skins fan if he said the sky was blue...

Skins fan: Sky's blue today. Think the weather's gonna be nice today.

'Boys fan: Prove it! How do you know it's blue. It wasn't blue yesterday. MOF, it was raining. So you're gonna tell me it's gonna be blue today, after history has shown that it won't always be blue on any given day?

anything to show our superiority over the Deadskins and their fans

BigDFan5 · Aug 2, 2006

WoodysGirl said:
Man, you guys would argue w/a skins fan if he said the sky was blue...

Skins fan: Sky's blue today. Think the weather's gonna be nice today.

'Boys fan: Prove it! How do you know it's blue. It wasn't blue yesterday. MOF, it was raining. So you're gonna tell me it's gonna be blue today, after history has shown that it won't always be blue on any given day?

Nah I dont jump in unless I have a solid case. In this instance I knew where he got his stat and knew exactly how to prove it wrong. Hence my involvment and his disappearance

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